Yeah that was kind of my point. People often apply how they feel about a film to the filmmaker. Just because someone makes a movie you might consider "****" doesn't imply that the person is "****".No, they are made by competent people, those with individual vision and talent. In fact, many excellent films, books, etc are made by some pretty reprehensible people. But that doesn't negate their craft.
No, but there are an awful lot of terrible filmmakers in Hollywood right now. That's kind of the point.Yeah that was kind of my point. People often apply how they feel about a film to the filmmaker. Just because someone makes a movie you might consider "****" doesn't imply that the person is "****".
There's always been a lot of terrible filmmakers in Hollywood, I don't think that all that much has changed. The reason that it seems like there are a lot more terrible filmmakers is that all of the terrible films and the filmmakers behind them from the past have all been forgotten and we only remember the good ones. I can pretty much guarantee you that in another 20 - 03 years people will be saying the same thing about how movies in their time all suck and how good they were now. They'll cite movies like the best of the MCU, LoTR, and others ignoring the less well received movies of today because off of the truly garbage movies of today will be forgotten by then.No, but there are an awful lot of terrible filmmakers in Hollywood right now. That's kind of the point.
That's the point of what? The thread? Your quoting me completely out of context rather than actually following the conversation. I was referring to the point I made in a previous post. I think everyone realizes the point of the thread, it's in the title.No, but there are an awful lot of terrible filmmakers in Hollywood right now. That's kind of the point.
Very true. I would add that what's very popular during a particular time period isn't necessarily the best of that era and isn't an indication of how well it will stand the test of time. Theres a lot of things that have been very popular in the last 15-20 years that will eventually not be so well received.There's always been a lot of terrible filmmakers in Hollywood, I don't think that all that much has changed. The reason that it seems like there are a lot more terrible filmmakers is that all of the terrible films and the filmmakers behind them from the past have all been forgotten and we only remember the good ones. I can pretty much guarantee you that in another 20 - 03 years people will be saying the same thing about how movies in their time all suck and how good they were now. They'll cite movies like the best of the MCU, LoTR, and others ignoring the less well received movies of today because off of the truly garbage movies of today will be forgotten by then.
It's the same deal with music and classical art. We remember names like Mozart, Beethoven, DaVinci, & Michelangelo because they were the best of their time. But for all of those famous names, there were likely dozens, if not hundreds of lesser artists (some good, some not so goo) that are all but forgotten except by dedicated art historians.
Yet in the past, at least you could come out of a movie and be excited about it. There were lots that you wanted to go and see again. I can't remember the last modern film I saw that I gave a damn about after I saw it and extremely few that I wanted to get on Bluray when they came out. We used to get dozens and dozens of DVDs and Blurays every year. Now... virtually none. I'm trying to remember the last TV show box set that I bought, one that's a modern show and I haven't got a clue. I'll get older shows, although I have most of them that I want, but new stuff? Everything I see is completely forgettable.That's not to say that everything in the past was cinema gold either. There was certainly a lot of crap then too.
I don't think that it's so much as that or that movies have truly gotten worse in the past decade or two. I think that the difference is, apart from changing tastes as we get older and forgetting about all of the crap movies of the past, is that twofold. One is with the increasing costs of producing films the studios have become more reluctant to gamble on new ideas. They're more comfortable banking on known properties and name recognition thinking that they're more likely to be a sure thing. But that's even not a new thing, anybody remembers how popular disaster movies were during the '70s? Studios were churning them out one after the other with little differences except of the nature of the disaster. And how many sequels did popular horror films spawn since the days of the classic Universal monster films?Strong writers and directors are actively suppressed by the culture of Hollywood. Anyone with a strong will and vision is branded as difficult to work with, when they actually mean difficult to grind down and be made to capitulate to the committee thinking. This is a case of too many cooks ruining the broth, and serving it anyway.
I don’t mean to characterize this as an ideological or political situation, rather an ego situation.
Non creatives, ie producers and executives, have become bolder and bolder with their meddling as cost and profits have gone up.
Even if you complain about the wretched soup you’re served, you as the consumer will be blamed for not having a sophisticated enough palette.
Long form or short form, the writing is all that matters. I've sat through 90 minute movies that felt like 5 seasons of a show because the writing was a slog. I've also sat through 5 seasons of a show that felt like 90 minutes because I was so engrossed in the story the time just flew by. Quality is everything, not quantity.