Okay, since this does not need to be removed.... I will ask the initial question again..
What constitutes recasting??
What constitutes recasting??
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What is recasting, really??
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TMP
Sr Member
Re: What is recasting?
I am trying to establish the same thing, Now that pepakura has become a so big part of the comunities within the replica prop comuinty... I am not saying Pepakura is recasting but i want to know the variouse guidelines for all members to follow. One rule to guide them all
I share the bellow statements. However its dificult to pinpoint Pepakura in the categories..
I am trying to establish the same thing, Now that pepakura has become a so big part of the comunities within the replica prop comuinty... I am not saying Pepakura is recasting but i want to know the variouse guidelines for all members to follow. One rule to guide them all
I share the bellow statements. However its dificult to pinpoint Pepakura in the categories..
- Selling/trading of recast items
Deliberately recasting another member’s creation without consent is not supported by this community. Selling freely distributed paper props is considered a digital form of recasting. This includes Pepakura files.
- The term Recast falls into category if the piece has been:
A. Directly recast of original licensed piece or Original fanmade art.
B. Retooled and modified prop over an existing licensed piece or fanmade art.
Recast falls into category when a Pepakura prop that already had been modified, finished, cleaned and detailed has been recast directly of the piece, or modified.
Pepakura files public available for download does not go in under this category IF the maker can show progress photos of the assembly and finish of the Pepakura armor.
- Fanmade falls in under the category if the piece has:
A. Been sculpted by hand from scratch.
B. Assembled by hand from scratch.
Category: Private collection, Fanmade VS Recast:
Any alteration, improvement, re-sculpting of existing prop counts as recast if the piece is moulded and replicated. If the alteration, improvement or re-sculpting is for personal improvement of personal collection this does not go in under the category of recast.
NOTE! The instant the piece is offered for sale or numerous pieces moulded, cast and then sold this will result in permanent Bann and public announcement warning.
- Comunity shal value the artistic creativity, but not for people to steal other members hard work. The time and efforts put into a piece shall be respected and honoured by members at all time. Any suspicion of intent of recast will result in immediate temporarily suspension and strike. The sculptor/ maker have to prove sculptural progress photos of their original work. If this can not be provided and proved guilty of recasting the member will be permanently banned and public announcement will be posted in the forum.
Re: What is recasting?
Thanks.
Thanks.
TMP
Sr Member
Re: What is recasting?
Lets have a constructive dialog on this and not any flaming. I belive perfecting guidelines to all of us in alls intrest.
Here is something to think about:
These are some of the questions i would like to know what guidelines is there?
Lets have a constructive dialog on this and not any flaming. I belive perfecting guidelines to all of us in alls intrest.
Here is something to think about:
These are some of the questions i would like to know what guidelines is there?
- If someone recast the armor from an Pepakura maker who is the recaster recasting? The 3D modeler or the builder of the themplate?
- The builder of the Pepapakura files can he cast moulds for to sell the armor as his own. How is this consider in according to the existing RPF rules... Its from an existing themeplate, but still its the builder who assembled him.. but still from a themplate made by the 3D Artist?
- In Regards of the 3D modelar can they, base their design of any other creations. How is this according to the existing rules? What if a 3D modelar copy an Fanmade replica made by an RPF member then what? Then what if it is from an licenced peice.
- Why do we differenciate from Screen used replica recast, vs recast of fan made replica or licensed replicas? If someone recast a OXMOX Ironman.. Is that ok? If that is ok, how does it differenciate from Fanmade replica that is beeing recast. And what about pepakura? Vise versa...
- How do we define the difference in modifying / resculping existing licenced props or fan made props vs 3D pepakura files themeplate?
- How is the 3D file maker protected against thieft and reproduction of files.
- How do we protect the intrest of those who dedicate allot of work, time and money into making props especially in regards of Pepakura?
- Can we also get definission of difference in SCULPTING and Pepepakura.. I still se people say they sculpted it by hand but they bondo it by hand not sculpted.. I wish to have clear definisssion of the different terminology.
Re: What is recasting?
But what if I buy someting and don't know it was recast until later. Should i just thorw it out when I no longer want it?? According to the rules, I should not resell it as I know it is a recast.
But what if I buy someting and don't know it was recast until later. Should i just thorw it out when I no longer want it?? According to the rules, I should not resell it as I know it is a recast.
Neon Sentry
Sr Member
Re: What is recasting?
I believe there are only two occasions where recasting is not frowned upon.
1. The item in question is a licensed piece no longer in production or available for sale.
2. The item in question is production used.
I believe there are only two occasions where recasting is not frowned upon.
1. The item in question is a licensed piece no longer in production or available for sale.
2. The item in question is production used.
Re: What is recasting?
Which I don't understand for either. They were both created by artist and produced under license. Not sure how that work but your right about the screen used stuff the Batman community is full to the brim with it.
Which I don't understand for either. They were both created by artist and produced under license. Not sure how that work but your right about the screen used stuff the Batman community is full to the brim with it.
Re: What is recasting?
Okay... here is question...
Everone seems to agree that it is okay to recast a production used piece. So is it okay to buy that recast and recast it again?
Okay... here is question...
Everone seems to agree that it is okay to recast a production used piece. So is it okay to buy that recast and recast it again?
Dung0beetle
Well-Known Member
Re: What is recasting?
I don't think that there is a standard set in stone rule for recasting. Different artists/production companies/licensees won't have the same legal restrictions on reproducing items. I think it should be determined on a case-by-case basis instead of a general rule.
Aren't there enough threads about this topic?
I don't think that there is a standard set in stone rule for recasting. Different artists/production companies/licensees won't have the same legal restrictions on reproducing items. I think it should be determined on a case-by-case basis instead of a general rule.
Aren't there enough threads about this topic?
propologist
Sr Member
Re: What is recasting?
ohhh not this topic again....This topic tends to get people flamed up real easy because there are sculptors , recasters and fans on this board. there are numerous threads about this topic , please search
ohhh not this topic again....This topic tends to get people flamed up real easy because there are sculptors , recasters and fans on this board. there are numerous threads about this topic , please search
Re: What is recasting?
I will request for the thread to close. I can see I am not going to get any clear answers, lol.
I will request for the thread to close. I can see I am not going to get any clear answers, lol.
TMP
Sr Member
Re: What is recasting?
From sculptor point, CNC maker, or other in the prop building proffesion i think this is MOST Relevent. Without these people this board would not exisist. If there in no guidelines to the comunity why sould anyone here make anything creative from scratch.
I dont know how many on this board that has been recast. Those that been members here and stolen others people hard work have been removed from this forum. If we cant have clear lines of this when back in the days we really cared about our fellow board members.
From sculptor point, CNC maker, or other in the prop building proffesion i think this is MOST Relevent. Without these people this board would not exisist. If there in no guidelines to the comunity why sould anyone here make anything creative from scratch.
I dont know how many on this board that has been recast. Those that been members here and stolen others people hard work have been removed from this forum. If we cant have clear lines of this when back in the days we really cared about our fellow board members.
TMP
Sr Member
Re: What is recasting?
Dont need to trow it.. Do NOT replicate it once more for sale.
Dont need to trow it.. Do NOT replicate it once more for sale.
TMP
Sr Member
Re: What is recasting?
This is why i think we need clear guidelines. I think this risky to ignore by the mods. If no changes happends then people will contiune asking question to what if, how avoid the system, how take advantage, how to react on variouse issues... Example..How many times have not Howard been recast for his busts/ creations...
This is why i think we need clear guidelines. I think this risky to ignore by the mods. If no changes happends then people will contiune asking question to what if, how avoid the system, how take advantage, how to react on variouse issues... Example..How many times have not Howard been recast for his busts/ creations...
Re: What is recasting?
I thought the answer was clear.....IF YOU DID NOT CREATE IT AND YOU POUR RUBBER OVER IT AND RE-CREATE IT IT IS RECASTING!!! Cut and dry!..........If someone wants a casting of a prop they will say...well thats not recasting just so they can get what they want! :lol that is where the exceptions come into play!!:angry you didn't make it then you didn't make it! :wacko
I thought the answer was clear.....IF YOU DID NOT CREATE IT AND YOU POUR RUBBER OVER IT AND RE-CREATE IT IT IS RECASTING!!! Cut and dry!..........If someone wants a casting of a prop they will say...well thats not recasting just so they can get what they want! :lol that is where the exceptions come into play!!:angry you didn't make it then you didn't make it! :wacko
TMP
Sr Member
Re: What is recasting?
What about my questions raised? How it is now its vage... It can be understood in many ways and it carrys holes.
What about my questions raised? How it is now its vage... It can be understood in many ways and it carrys holes.
Re: What is recasting?
I always thought this way as well. If you recast it, whether it is production made, an old licensed product, an RPF made item..... any form of prop, it is recast... PERIOD. I believe it is that black and white. It seems like people only make exceptions to this when it benefits them.
I always thought this way as well. If you recast it, whether it is production made, an old licensed product, an RPF made item..... any form of prop, it is recast... PERIOD. I believe it is that black and white. It seems like people only make exceptions to this when it benefits them.
