Westworld (HBO)

[AJK001]

There was a second host scalped, but I don't think it was by TMIB. The sheriff who malfunctioned when a fly landed on his face showed up scapled when the techs looked at him. I think those are the only 2 scalpings we have seen so far. But I may have missed another.

As for Thomas Jane, I didn't "find out" it was him, I know him. I moderate his comic book company message boards, and I've worked convention with him at RAW's booth. He's a good guy, and he has a deep adoration for westerns. He's been trying to get a western called "A Magnificent Death By A Shattered Hand" off the ground for a few years now.

There were some hosts scalped by indians in the 2nd episode when the madam, I can't remember her characters name, was remembering some of her past. But since they were memories and part of the narrative they probably don't count.


That is awesome about Thomas Jane.

 

[Fawbish]

There were some hosts scalped by indians in the 2nd episode when the madam, I can't remember her characters name, was remembering some of her past. But since they were memories and part of the narrative they probably don't count.


That is awesome about Thomas Jane.

It could be that the "Indians" were humans, who were finding the deeper level of the game back then, and Ed Harris is only just getting to that point in the "game depth".

 

[glunark]

I think Arnold knew he was going to be murdered by Anthony Hopkins character, so he transferred his consciousness to the hosts unconscious. A little bit in all of them, and that is why they are trying to leave the park, if they can avoid being killed for more than a few days at a time, maybe the Arnold part of them will achieve total recall. Then when they can fire their guns at will, they will come back for Hopkins.

On an unrelated note, we already seen bullets can go right through a host, especially with a neck shot, are the bullets clever enough that if they go through a host they wont kill a human that is behind them?

 

[mattycsi]

On the bullet thing. I saw it more like a paintball, when it hits the host it has a reaction with the construction material that causes the gunshot wound, but when it hits a person it doesn't react. That's why William went down when he got hit, probably wasn't expecting to be hit at all.

 

[Seabass]

daaaaaamn, what an episode!

 

[Gimpdiggity]

Spoiler

So I guess that answers the question of whether there are multiple guests in the park at one time.

And yes...what an episode, indeed.

 

[Gimpdiggity]

Guys, I know a link to an EW article was posted earlier in the thread, but I just wanted to mention they've had really good recaps of the episodes posted pretty quickly after it airs...I've been really enjoying going and reading it shortly after I finish watching...it gives me more stuff to think about and digest.

I love this show.

 

[DavidS]

Re: HBO gives us a "Westworld" remake as a series!

Wow so the MIB is some kinda celebrity in the real world? Owner of a corporation?


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[Gimpdiggity]

Re: HBO gives us a "Westworld" remake as a series!

Wow so the MIB is some kinda celebrity in the real world? Owner of a corporation?


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I had gotten the impression that he was some kind of super-rich dude that was probably well known right from the start.

It was interesting to hear what that guy said to him...considering how ruthless we've seen him in the park thus far.

 

[DavidS]

Just further illustrating how people take on roles that may be opposite from the real personalities


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[ghostryder]

 

[Gimpdiggity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bthKVqqxgSI&feature=youtu.be

"This Video is Private" is all that comes up for me.

 

[ghostryder]

I guess they had to take it down - it was a cool look at how SCPS creates the interactive map with a combination of practical and digital fx:

http://www.scpsunlimited.com/case-studies/2016/10/17/westworlds-futuristic-interactive-map-system

 

[ghostryder]

http://collider.com/westworld-man-in-black-jonathan-nolan-lisa-joy/

 

[CB2001]

I think the MIB may be the brother of the co-founder of Westworld, the one that committed suicide. It would make a lot of sense why he's trying to find the maze, because he wants to see if there was something left behind by his brother that no one else has found yet, as well as to accomplish his brother's goal of making the hosts sentient (hence the "I want to set you free" line). Maybe the foundation mentioned by the admirer was set up by the MIB as an anti-suicide cause of some sort.


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[Fawbish]

Just further illustrating how people take on roles that may be opposite from the real personalities


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Or possibly a theme of "what is the real personality? is it the one you present to people you know to be real, or the people you know arent real?"

 

[AJK001]

As I was watching the last episode I was thinking about how all of the workers had died in the movie when the power went out and they suffocated. This made me wonder if all of the behind the scenes workers, such as Bernard, were actually hosts. I know it is probably far fetched and there are a ton of reasons it wouldn't work, but once I got this idea I could not get it out of my head.

What do you guys think?

 

[Gimpdiggity]

As I was watching the last episode I was thinking about how all of the workers had died in the movie when the power went out and they suffocated. This made me wonder if all of the behind the scenes workers, such as Bernard, were actually hosts. I know it is probably far fetched and there are a ton of reasons it wouldn't work, but once I got this idea I could not get it out of my head.

What do you guys think?

The showrunners have said that the movie has nothing to do with this TV series.

***EDIT***

Maybe not "nothing," but here...

When we’re told in the premiere that the park “hasn’t had a critical failure in 30 years.” Are we supposed to take the events in the 1973 movie as canon — that everything in the Westworld film happened in this universe – or was that reference not meant to literally be to the film’s events?
Nolan: It’s playful but not meant to be literal. We wanted to connect to the ideas in the original film, but also take a look at this place as a cultural institution that is not new – because these ideas aren’t new. They stretch back to when Crichton was playing with them. We wanted to consider the park in that capacity, as a cultural institution in the manner of a Disney World. We feel like there’s a long story here. Like there’s something so pointed and sad for us about the idea that Dolores, this sort of evergreen frontier girl next door. She’s been that plucky heroine for 30 years.

 

[SpyderDan]

Whether the 1973 movie events are supposed to be part of the canon of the new show or not, they certainly seem to suggest that the early years of the park were at least a lot like the original movie.

The real kicker was the flashback scenes in the third episode, with CG young Anthony Hopkins, where you could see old model hosts being worked on. Those hosts were mechanical robots inside, very similar to what we saw in the original movie, as opposed to the biological hosts (that can get bacterial infections, like Maeve did) we see in the present timeline of the show.

Also, they have shown 2 different Westworld logos, one being the same style as the original movie.

 

[0neiros]

Good video about The Man in Black's LeMat -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9QIvy3T8kg