Wachowskis’ Jupiter Ascending (Post-release)

Technically if we go with the notion that Everything Is A Remix, nothing in the world of fiction is truly original anymore.

But in most cases when a movie is regarded as original, it just means it's not based on a existing property, which itself is a rarity these days.

So it can still be considered as a original film even if it incorporates elements of Hero's Journey which have been part of storytelling and fiction for centuries now.
i take the notion of "original" to be applicable any central quality of a film - in that sense it may describe a non-linear narrative or an unusual type of protagonist - not just the plot.
Can effects qualify in this regard? IMO they can if there's a thematic coherence with the themes of the film (e.g. Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey.)
With that definition it's often subjective as to what might qualify a film as "original." That's how I take it.
 
I am very surprised. Surprised that writers and directors don’t appear to pay any attention to the criticisms levelled at other poorly received genre films and so still fail to learn from those mistakes. But I guess ego’s often get in the way of an education. And that’s a pity.
First off Jupiter A is not a total disaster. Its not even terribly bad. What it is, most tragically of all, is a bit boring. And utterly predictable.
Before I get to that what I was impressed by once again was the excellent standard of effects .To render such a high level of often breathtaking scenes and beautiful environments (and I swear I saw the 2001 wheel space station in one background shot) and complete the sheer quantity of all the concept artwork from the props through to the spaceships and planets they must have employed entire legions of digital artists and techs!!! And though a good deal of it was new and interesting , just as much of it felt like it had been plucked from so many, many other sci fi movies (so much so at one early point I actually thought they’d landed on Naboo and nicked their costumes).
But as strong as all this production work was , it’s once again a great shame that its the weak and unconvincing script that really fails to stitch all of it together and its the characters and storyline that just simply and laughably feel like they deliberately raided some of the most feeble and least interesting elements often used in sci fi time and again over the decades.
It’s such a juvenile effort. As if they thought by copying whole chunks of Dune , the Fifth Element , Brazil ,Star Wars etc that they would have been able to successfully reproduce many of the grandiose ideas and themes of those stories. But they didn’t. Not by a mile. What they got was a great looking but pretty hollow reproduction. For an epic space opera it singularly failed to find its own voice because all the songs it sang came from other shows.
Instead of the spice we got the immortal "nectar" bath gel harvested from humans (so not "batteries" this time???). We had Roman style dynasties filled with evil scheming siblings,their fabulous space palaces patroled by their Flash Gordon gun armed guards, nasty flying monkey crocodiles , crop circles, creepy greys and memory erasures,speeder bikes and bounty hunters, and just about every other action film and sci fi cliché you could possibly think of chucked into the already overloaded mix. Including the speed skater gravity boots.
And neither the half wolf man hero who looked more like bare chested steroid pumped wrestling Elf and the remarkably “Stupider Jones” heroine who has all the intergalactic political insight of a concussed bee could save me from wondering how anyone could ever have doubted the out come at any point in the story.
If it wasn’t for the excellent effects work I’d have felt royally cheated by this. As it was I just felt a deep and profound disappointment and sadness that perhaps two or three or four really good films could have been produced for what was spent on this. I hope it does well in perhaps Russia and China where they may have been less exposed to the well trodden paths that many others films have explored before this one.
 
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The W-siblings have made some very good films but JA felt like The Fifth Element interpreted by five-year-olds. I kept thinking how incredible it was that this movie came out so close to Guardians of the Galaxy; how could one be so great and the other so bad, to the point that even thinking about them both at the same time is an insult to the latter.

The effects were stunningly executed from a technical standpoint, but the actual choreography of the action was so awful and there was zero excitement. I tried, but couldn't even muster a "fun romp" feeling with this movie. The story felt like they had taken 10 seasons of a TV-show and compressed into 30 minutes. Over-acting (Eddie Redmayne, probably not his fault), under-acting (Mila Kunis, whom I usually like, was mainly reated like a dress-up doll) and everything in-between (Tatum does a wonderful David Boreanaz "Angel" interpretation, probably not his fault either). Also... the Wachowski's must love the old Dragonlance books because... DRACONIANS!

I applaud the Wachowskis for at least attempting to construct a new universe/IP but they desperately need a firm-handed producer to reel them in and sort out all the bs. (Much like Michael Bay was a lot better when Bruckheimer was holding the leash.)
 
The only reason the Matrix was good was because it was a total rip off of a story called The Third Eye. When it came time for them to be original for reloaded and revolutions... well ...We know they are very different. They are actually over rated and quite awful film makers when it come to their own "stories". They're most memorable film is a complete ripoff and was proven in court where the writer won a lawsuit.
 
I thought the first Matrix was severely overrated from day one. Not bad, just overrated. They combined two existing SFX and two existing sci-fi themes.
 
I thought the first Matrix was mind blowingly awesome.
Reloaded was an over-stylized turd with a few redeeming action sequences.
Revolutions was good... about 1.5 hours into it. It also had some decent elements but I didn't feel like it was put together as well as it should/could have been.
Overall the series was good. I'd love to see a prequel that shows a previous version of the Matrix and one of the other "Ones".

I still want to see this movie but I'll be going in skeptical so hopefully I'll pleasantly surprised.
I just got the soundtrack... Michael Giacchino has done some decent stuff so I'm willing to play through and see if it's a keeper
 
Finally got around to watching this.

Like most of the movies I've been watching lately... not bad but not great. It didn't have any overly memorable scenes like the Matrix. It was visually overwhelming, but amazing. Like the Star Wars prequels... so much to take in.

It scores low on the re-watchable scale... maybe a 4. I'd watch it with my kids but I don't think it would hold their interest. They wouldn't get the story... it would be all eye candy. My kids are still at the Pacific Rim level... eye candy with a very basic story. This is probably a little too complex for them.

The music felt like it borrowed heavily from John Williams. I have the score and I don't remember any particular track being all that memorable or inspiring, but I'll give it another listen to make sure I'm not missing something.

Glad I finally saw it though.
 
I saw it about a week ago and thought the universe and premise they created had a lot of potential; fascinating even, it was so complex.

Here's my issue with the plot -and it harkens to Amy Farrah Fowler's problem with Indiana Jones in The Big Bang Theory.

Forget how both brothers, Balem and Titus find out that Jupiter is a recurrence of mom... higher technology can explain that. And it half makes sense that Titus would want to (ew) marry her to get the rights if he wants to take Earth away from Balem and Balem would want to kill her. (Though it makes no sense why she would go along with that except that she's stupid enough because she was stupid enough to sell her eggs and give her cousin most of the money because it was his idea)

But once the marriage falls through and she refuses to sign over the rights, so what? She's in love with a splice.

She goes back to earth, stays with a man she can't have kids with, she isn't going to Regenx herself so she dies in 50-60 years and the inheritance of earth goes back to the harvest-minded sibling who had it before. The Abrasax siblings are going to live for tens of thousands of years, they can all just wait her out.

You could say she could put in her will that she doesn't want the earth to ever be harvested, but does anyone believe that Jupiter is smart enough to think of that? They certainly didn't end the movie with her thinking ahead to the future as queen of the earth; she just goes back to cleaning toilets!

So what did this movie accomplish, besides maybe killing Balem? (Though, he doesn't seem like a guy who wouldn't have a plan of escape and those space suits seem to fall out of the sky just when you need them)

Nothing. The Earth is likely going to be harvested by one of the remaining Abrasax siblings regardless of Jupiter Ascending. The movie accomplished nothing.
 
Saw this movie for the first time last week. It's a okay movie its not bad. It has a plot borrowed from different places. Eddie Redmayne apparently won a Razzie for "Worst Supporting Actor" but i did not think he did such a bad job on playing the bad guy. He has this "Voldemort" voice going on, with Emperor palpatine speaking softness.
Creature designs was good. Got some lizard types that got me thinking of the Goombas from Super mario bros movie.
 
I watched this a while back and appreciated just how different it was, while also finding the story to be absurd and not that entertaining. Still, they get big points for trying to launch original IP.
 
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