Jannix Quinn
Sr Member
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God he's annoying.
God he's annoying.
Top Shot, Season 3
- Thread starter firesprite
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JediG60racer
Sr Member
Never heard of Jesse Ventura, huh?
Granted he cleaned up his act somewhat after he entered politics, but he was that guy.
Agreed... most SEALs live life trying to be the gray man. Unremarkable, unnoticed, hidden in plain sight. But there are plenty of big egos in the bunch.
Satxer
Sr Member
That ending topped the cake. Made his own little throne out of picnic tables and a lawn chair. I swear, you'd think he thought the was an emperor of something. The dudes attitude is just out there, and it's making the rest of the team tear itself apart. I was really suprised that we didn't see fists flying. They should of voted him in more eliminations earlier, before his attitude got as bad as it did.
Noeland
Master Member
Jake Zweig — Top Shot — History.com
He's full of himself, but obviously he can back it up too. He did better than anybody else on the recurve bow challenge. He walked through his elimination challenge like it was nothing.
He may well be in the top 4, or even top 2 of this season.
He's likely been a football coach longer than he was a SEAL, and frankly he comes off like every football coach I've ever met.
He's full of himself, but obviously he can back it up too. He did better than anybody else on the recurve bow challenge. He walked through his elimination challenge like it was nothing.
He may well be in the top 4, or even top 2 of this season.
He's likely been a football coach longer than he was a SEAL, and frankly he comes off like every football coach I've ever met.
DuneMuadDib
Sr Member
Man, I'm disappointed that they seem to be retaining the nomination range for the individual portion of the competition. That was a bad choice for Season 2 imo and with Jake's personality and how he seems to get on with the players I can't see how nominations won't be geared towards getting rid of him.
The honor vs. winning at any cost argument between him and the Homeland Security guy (whose name sadly escapes me) was interesting. I completely understand Jake's point of view as formed by his role as a SEAL, but equating wet-work to a shooting competition doesn't ring true for me. It's not life or death, it's a pissing contest for money. If he'd gotten Mike eliminated on a technicality Jake wouldn't know for sure whose was bigger.
The honor vs. winning at any cost argument between him and the Homeland Security guy (whose name sadly escapes me) was interesting. I completely understand Jake's point of view as formed by his role as a SEAL, but equating wet-work to a shooting competition doesn't ring true for me. It's not life or death, it's a pissing contest for money. If he'd gotten Mike eliminated on a technicality Jake wouldn't know for sure whose was bigger.
firesprite
Master Member
I did some checking on Jake's claims of being a SEAL. He was in the teams for a pretty short time and left them because he made allegations of racism that an investigation by Admiral Olson's office found was baseless.
Seeing his conduct on the show, I can only imagine what his behavior was like in such a high-drive environment like the SEALs.
Seeing his conduct on the show, I can only imagine what his behavior was like in such a high-drive environment like the SEALs.
Goodwolf
Sr Member
I suspect that it's more like the producers look for these qualities.
I guarantee it. Which is a shame as it reinforces the stereotype of soldiers being rather stuck up, especially special forces, and makes the military look bad. I wish they'd get more regular folks and less all law enforcement or special forces. There are a ton of normal folks who are amazing shots.
DuneMuadDib
Sr Member
Dustin.
Same with Jay from last season. All the trash talking him for being a golf instructor, yet he shot a lot better than several professionals. I didn't care for his early "I'm the boss" attitude, but the guy was better than anyone seemed to give him credit for.
I wish Tara from season 1 could/would come back. After every female competitor since her not lasting past the first couple of eliminations it'd be nice to see how far she could have gone had she not had to withdraw over her dad's health.
Another thing I love is that all these military guys are only good with one weapon it seems. If they're a sniper they suck at handguns or even low power rifles. Makes me wonder what we're training are soldiers for. You'd think these guys would at least practice with a wide range of guns if not shoot all the time.
Art and I really enjoy watching this show. I feel that Jake is really making himself look bad but I do believe he is going to make it to the end. This show and Sons of Guns makes me want to go out and shoot something fierce!!!
I don't see an issue with this. You see that with many of the civilians as well. The core basics of shooting don't change that much so if you are good with one thing, there should be at least a minimal understanding of the others. From what I see, you have a choice to be good with everything or GREAT with one thing... and because the military is so compartmentalized and specialized I want that person to be the very best there is at what they do. Should they have a basic understanding and familiarity with many weapons? Sure. Do I care if a Marine sniper is a master marksman with a Civil War cannon? No... no I don't. I just want him to be a dead ringer with a sniper rifle and be the best operator of the weapon he uses the most that is out there.
Now, for this competition, considering we are in the third season, why some of these people seem to have never touched a bow or a throwing knife is beyond me. The minute I was selected, I'd start working on odd weapons that are sure to be in the compeition like the throwing ax, yet these guys can't seem surprised every time...
In regard to Jake, I don't see a Navy SEAL in him or anything representing SEALs. Does the military instill a confidence in people that can often lead to arrogance? Yes, but as I posted previously, I want our boys who are staring death in the face to have utter confidence in themselves and their abilities.
What I see in Jake is not the typical confidence/arrogance instilled by the military. I just see an ugly human being with a lot of skill/talent but very little redeeming value.
What I see in Jake is not the typical confidence/arrogance instilled by the military. I just see an ugly human being with a lot of skill/talent but very little redeeming value.
firesprite
Master Member
Satxer
Sr Member
Dustin is cool, he isn't arrogent or bossy in any way. He just does what he does, and kicks butt. He doesn't boast when he's done, and that is why I think that he is gonna go all they way. That's what differs him from people like Jay last season.
Well put!
Still, I wouldn't be suprised if we see Jake in more eliminations. It just keeps escalating with him.
Top Shot is one of my favorite reality shows because I feel on a number of shows, the judges tend to eliminate boring people and purposefully keep controversial people who aren't deserving solely for the ratings (Hell's Kitchen is one of the worst offenders and I won't even watch America's Next Top Model with Kristen anymore, which at one time actually focused on photography....). I like that the producers can't easily sway who goes and who stays on Top Shot, but it makes me sad to see that more and more they are focusing on melodrama over what the contest is about. 
I'm waiting for Jake to go nuts on one of his teammates. I agree he's got nothing good about him as a human being. I can only imagine what his Seal teammates must think of him. I sure wouldn't want him guarding my back.
Jannix Quinn
Sr Member
Are we sure he wasn't a seal at like, an aquarium or something?
