TIE Helmet Hose?
- Thread starter SgtFang
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yakcam
Sr Member
Hi Sgt,
The stuff I use is the same stuff that race car drivers use to pipe cool air into their helmets. I'm not sure how accurate it is, but for trooping it's awesome as it's super flexible rubber with a wire coil inserted. When I was looking for the stuff, I found out that, when talking hose, they don't go by the outer diameter, but inner, mine's 30mm inner, 37mm outer.
I know the hose is longer than what is considered accurate, but I made it longer so I could turn my head easier, although I've trimmed it a bit more since that pic was taken.
So that being said, if you're happy with the look of it, contact a shop that deals in motor racing apparel. I've heard of people using vac hose and the hose that comes out the back of washing machines too, but they're not as flexible.
I hope this helped in some way.
Cheers,
Kraig
The stuff I use is the same stuff that race car drivers use to pipe cool air into their helmets. I'm not sure how accurate it is, but for trooping it's awesome as it's super flexible rubber with a wire coil inserted. When I was looking for the stuff, I found out that, when talking hose, they don't go by the outer diameter, but inner, mine's 30mm inner, 37mm outer.
I know the hose is longer than what is considered accurate, but I made it longer so I could turn my head easier, although I've trimmed it a bit more since that pic was taken.
So that being said, if you're happy with the look of it, contact a shop that deals in motor racing apparel. I've heard of people using vac hose and the hose that comes out the back of washing machines too, but they're not as flexible.
I hope this helped in some way.
Cheers,
Kraig
voice in the crowd
Sr Member
You could try emailing Andrew Ainsworth at SDS props.
Somebody asked a question a while back on the forum about the correct colour for the rebel fleet trooper helmets and I suggested mailing SDS the person got the information they wanted.
You can only try
Cheers Chris.
Somebody asked a question a while back on the forum about the correct colour for the rebel fleet trooper helmets and I suggested mailing SDS the person got the information they wanted.
You can only try
Cheers Chris.
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I wouldn't be adverse to that, but this would be for a competing prop- Do you think he'd be a good sport about it, or tell me to go get stuffed? :lol
-Sarge
You could try emailing Andrew Ainsworth at SDS props.
Somebody asked a question a while back on the forum about the correct colour for the rebel fleet trooper helmets and I suggested mailing SDS the person got the information they wanted.
You can only try
Cheers Chris.
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I wouldn't be adverse to that, but this would be for a competing prop- Do you think he'd be a good sport about it, or tell me to go get stuffed? :lol
-Sarge
kimncris
Sr Member
I saw a really nice black rubber hose at Home depot when looking for something else.
It was back by the water heaters and gas fittings, but I just can't remember what it's intended use was. It was definitely not the washer drain hose though, this had much bigger "ribs" and was rubber...
-cris
It was back by the water heaters and gas fittings, but I just can't remember what it's intended use was. It was definitely not the washer drain hose though, this had much bigger "ribs" and was rubber...
-cris
voice in the crowd
Sr Member
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I wouldn't be adverse to that, but this would be for a competing prop- Do you think he'd be a good sport about it, or tell me to go get stuffed? :lol
-Sarge
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I know at one point SDS had big ideas to make loads of products and may well do in the future but since the LFL lawsuit no new products have materialised. There was plans to make a rebel fleet trooper, X-Wing etc and SDS still told a board member here the exact colour of the rebel fleet trooper.
SDS only make the TIE helmet to my knowledge and it doesn't include hoses. They did talk about TIE armour at one point but it never came to be.
I tell you what I will mail SDS and ask as I do own an SDS TIE helmet and it could do with hoses so it might help us both out.
If I get an answer I will post it up
If I don't then nothing lost.
Stay tuned.
Cheers Chris.
You could try emailing Andrew Ainsworth at SDS props.
Somebody asked a question a while back on the forum about the correct colour for the rebel fleet trooper helmets and I suggested mailing SDS the person got the information they wanted.
You can only try
Cheers Chris.
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I wouldn't be adverse to that, but this would be for a competing prop- Do you think he'd be a good sport about it, or tell me to go get stuffed? :lol
-Sarge
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I know at one point SDS had big ideas to make loads of products and may well do in the future but since the LFL lawsuit no new products have materialised. There was plans to make a rebel fleet trooper, X-Wing etc and SDS still told a board member here the exact colour of the rebel fleet trooper.
SDS only make the TIE helmet to my knowledge and it doesn't include hoses. They did talk about TIE armour at one point but it never came to be.
I tell you what I will mail SDS and ask as I do own an SDS TIE helmet and it could do with hoses so it might help us both out.
If I get an answer I will post it up
If I don't then nothing lost.
Stay tuned.
Cheers Chris.
AnsonJames
Sr Member
I actually have some white tubing that exactly the same - I can remember seeing it on a hairdryer in the UK in the 70's.
It's reinforced with fabric and metal as far as I know.
I'll see if I can find it and take some photos...
Anson
It's reinforced with fabric and metal as far as I know.
I'll see if I can find it and take some photos...
Anson
Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
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I wouldn't be adverse to that, but this would be for a competing prop- Do you think he'd be a good sport about it, or tell me to go get stuffed? :lol
-Sarge
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I know at one point SDS had big ideas to make loads of products and may well do in the future but since the LFL lawsuit no new products have materialised. There was plans to make a rebel fleet trooper, X-Wing etc and SDS still told a board member here the exact colour of the rebel fleet trooper.
SDS only make the TIE helmet to my knowledge and it doesn't include hoses. They did talk about TIE armour at one point but it never came to be.
I tell you what I will mail SDS and ask as I do own an SDS TIE helmet and it could do with hoses so it might help us both out.
If I get an answer I will post it up
If I don't then nothing lost.
Stay tuned.
Cheers Chris.
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Chris - when the SDS TIE's first came out they were going to be shipped WITH hoses, but tbh looked a little odd with hoses going nowhere :lol He was going to do the chest boxes/tubes together but this still hasnt happened, although at Memorabilia earlier this month the guys on their stand were saying "very soon".
However some or the reproduction TIE's did go with hoses, I've got a set. As far as how accurate they are its hard to say. I'm pretty sure AA said the originals were not found items but that he heat applied some black plastic material over a wire frame (the 2004 versions were certainly this) but whether this is the case or not on the originals I really dont know. They do look quite similar though having seen some pretty good reference pics.
Note that legal-wise, according to the thread on the RPB "the court gave LFL until the 21st August to act upon the (default) ruling or the case would be closed..." . I dont know if this happened or not.
Cheers
Jez
oh and one more thing. The "point" about the hoses is that unlike a normal hose, they dont spring-back into their normal shape (i.e. straight). The replica ones SDS did could be bent into the form you wanted and I presume this matched the originals. Note the caveat.
Cheers
Jez
You could try emailing Andrew Ainsworth at SDS props.
Somebody asked a question a while back on the forum about the correct colour for the rebel fleet trooper helmets and I suggested mailing SDS the person got the information they wanted.
You can only try
Cheers Chris.
[/b]
I wouldn't be adverse to that, but this would be for a competing prop- Do you think he'd be a good sport about it, or tell me to go get stuffed? :lol
-Sarge
[/b][/quote]
I know at one point SDS had big ideas to make loads of products and may well do in the future but since the LFL lawsuit no new products have materialised. There was plans to make a rebel fleet trooper, X-Wing etc and SDS still told a board member here the exact colour of the rebel fleet trooper.
SDS only make the TIE helmet to my knowledge and it doesn't include hoses. They did talk about TIE armour at one point but it never came to be.
I tell you what I will mail SDS and ask as I do own an SDS TIE helmet and it could do with hoses so it might help us both out.
If I get an answer I will post it up
If I don't then nothing lost.
Stay tuned.
Cheers Chris.
[/b][/quote]
Chris - when the SDS TIE's first came out they were going to be shipped WITH hoses, but tbh looked a little odd with hoses going nowhere :lol He was going to do the chest boxes/tubes together but this still hasnt happened, although at Memorabilia earlier this month the guys on their stand were saying "very soon".
However some or the reproduction TIE's did go with hoses, I've got a set. As far as how accurate they are its hard to say. I'm pretty sure AA said the originals were not found items but that he heat applied some black plastic material over a wire frame (the 2004 versions were certainly this) but whether this is the case or not on the originals I really dont know. They do look quite similar though having seen some pretty good reference pics.
Note that legal-wise, according to the thread on the RPB "the court gave LFL until the 21st August to act upon the (default) ruling or the case would be closed..." . I dont know if this happened or not.
Cheers
Jez
oh and one more thing. The "point" about the hoses is that unlike a normal hose, they dont spring-back into their normal shape (i.e. straight). The replica ones SDS did could be bent into the form you wanted and I presume this matched the originals. Note the caveat.
Cheers
Jez
AnsonJames
Sr Member
Here's the hose I have.
I really thought it was this type but looking at it now I think it's this stuff.
I'd imagine it was quite commonly available in a variety of colours during the 70's.
Anson
I really thought it was this type but looking at it now I think it's this stuff.
I'd imagine it was quite commonly available in a variety of colours during the 70's.
Anson
yakcam
Sr Member
<div class='quotetop'>(AnsonJames @ Aug 31 2006, 07:06 PM) [snapback]1310453[/snapback]</div>
That one looks EXACTLY like the stuff I use, but it's black. I wonder if my hose is a continuation of that from the 70's.....hmmmm.
Cheers,
Kraig
Here's the hose I have.
I'd imagine it was quite commonly available in a variety of colours during the 70's.
Anson
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That one looks EXACTLY like the stuff I use, but it's black. I wonder if my hose is a continuation of that from the 70's.....hmmmm.
Cheers,
Kraig
Slightly off topic, I'm gonna use hoses from old ge hairdryers for my AT-AT driver. Just be aware that they come in a million different diameters and styles. The distance between the ribs veries a lot. Some of the older hose appears to 'break down' at some point and become a sticky mess. All this being said, I still think they are still too stiff. The pictures of the at-at drivers I've seen show that hose drooping all over the place.
vaderdarth
Master Member
If someone would be kind enough to post some reference shots of the hoses here.........I, being a dentist can research my dental suppliers for the rubber inhalation sedation hoses. My current hoses are just corrugated plastic, but I remember many older units and other brands that use the rubber variety. They were black rubber. I was told once that the original hoses were from O2 delivery systems and it all does seem quite familiar. I'd be happy to do the research on my end.
Dave
Dave
voice in the crowd
Sr Member
Here is a UK site that makes hoses of all types and it shows the construction of their hoses this may help. It has loads of sizes and colours also.
http://www.par-group.co.uk/ducting.aspx?page=199
Also can somebody take up Gino's offer of hosting his images of a screen used hose please.
Chris.
http://www.par-group.co.uk/ducting.aspx?page=199
Also can somebody take up Gino's offer of hosting his images of a screen used hose please.
Chris.
Raffles
Sr Member
Given that the original helmets and x-wing helms were from APH-6 flight helmets the hosing may have been from those. Havent had much luck sourcing them in the uk but did have some luck in a DIY superstore with perfect hoses (although scaled as my helmet is a rubies and therefore smaller than screen accurate).
you could try these places
BDG
Longs
Or if thats no help you could try here for great info -
Omega Wing
you could try these places
BDG
Longs
Or if thats no help you could try here for great info -
Omega Wing
Yep, while I was looking for Vader ROTJ Reveal ribbed hoses (I tried ALL the big UK companies.) I did notice stuff that looked perfect for the Tie. I think it was the Vacuflex. Lightweight PVC over a metal helix.
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