Things you're tired of seeing in movies

[JediMichael]

I'd be like, "here, let me pop this pimple, they usually bleed anyways."

 

[dascoyne]

Ugh, I can't stand the palm cutting. Almost every week on Supernatural, and a couple of Klingon episodes a year around the time of DS9

I would like to see a big Klingon instead pull out a sewing needle to prick a fingertip and gingerly milk out a single drop of blood.

 

[jkno]

Honestly, get a needle and poke your thumb. It's a whole lot simpler if you just have to prove you're human.

It also happened in The Last of Us episode with Ellie. I would go against even the thumb being pierced, not to mention an open cut. Unless you close it fast with superglue, a wound like that would get infected, especially in a post-apocaliptic world.

 

[Laspector]

I actually got a pretty bad cut on my palm one time years ago. It was a bitch to heal. Anytime a cut is on a part of your body that constantly moves, it is really hard to heal. Cutting your palm on purpose is extremely stupid.

 

[bwayne64]

I hate moving pictures in the movies. We need to go back to slide shows, ; )

 

[BeaminScotty]

The keys to the car left behind the visor.
Gun-fu.
Walking away from the explosion.
Stepping out of the speeding/spinning vehicle.
Heroic bullet/knife wounds.
Standing unmoved while clothes-lining someone off of a speeding motorcycle, casually picking it up and riding off.
Being able to fight/run, etc after being hit by a car or falling off of a building.
Instant expertise.
Flagrant security violations with no repercussions.

You just described everything that makes the John Wick movies so fun! Lol

 

[Cephus]

You just described everything that makes the John Wick movies so fun! Lol

Fun, sure. Intelligent? No.

 

[bwayne64]

People jumping on top of a car/van and someone inside is shooting up through the roof. The person on top is dodging the bullets by inches and knows exactly where to move. What, do ordinary people have Spidey sense ? Even Spiderman gets nicked by a bullet occasionally. These people are faster than him.

 

[greenmachines]

When the hero/heroine punches the baddy in the face/jaw/head, and sends them FLYING backwards dozens of feet. First of all, to just LIFT someone up off the ground with a head punch (assuming your average movie bad-guy 200 pounds or more) requires a LOT of force, let alone to PROPEL them backwards. I'm not talking about stumbling backwards and they fall down, I'm talking about how the body goes flying through the air.

It's just NOT going to happen like that with a human being, even if the hero/heroine is a bulked up fighter / power lifter / martial arts expert / Special Forces / whatever.

And when the hero/heroine has SUPER strength, then a blow to the head with significant force to hurl the entire body backwards dozens of feet would ALSO be strong enough to first either:
1) Tear the jaw/skull segment loose from the rest of the head, therefore just making a big splatter mess, while the nearly decapitated body falls backwards, or...
2) Completely decapitate the body

Way way back in my teen years we used to train obsessively for our karate class. Repetitive high weight grip exercise lifting 5 gallon water bottles (without the water) and over time adding water. The same crap we did to practice the parrot tech from Remo Williams. After years of this I could do an uppercut on a regular punching sandbag and lift it up off the suspension hook and drop it on the floor with one punch, without crumpling my wrist. Certainly not a full size adult but at about 70 to 80 pounds. That type of punch to the head would not only break a neck and jaw (and not even start to lift the body) but would probably break your wrist as well for most adults. In order to pick up a body via a head punch, you would have to somehow sink your fist into the skull through the soft under portion of the jaw. It just wouldn't carry the force into the lower body at all until you stretched the neck tight. It is like punching a tetherball and expecting it to move the pole. This is the exact reason that the stupid street punk knockout game is lethal. Imagine tying two cars together with a tow rope but then gassing it. The rope CAN tow the car but it can't do it under full acceleration. This is why the head punch complaint is spot on but yet the body blow flying sidekick works. And then we age.... Recently I punched a bag of goat feed to break up some clumps and totally rolled my wrist. I would shatter like glass if I tried the punching bag trick again.

 

[batguy]

Way way back in my teen years we used to train obsessively for our karate class. Repetitive high weight grip exercise lifting 5 gallon water bottles (without the water) and over time adding water. The same crap we did to practice the parrot tech from Remo Williams. After years of this I could do an uppercut on a regular punching sandbag and lift it up off the suspension hook and drop it on the floor with one punch, without crumpling my wrist. Certainly not a full size adult but at about 70 to 80 pounds. That type of punch to the head would not only break a neck and jaw (and not even start to lift the body) but would probably break your wrist as well for most adults. In order to pick up a body via a head punch, you would have to somehow sink your fist into the skull through the soft under portion of the jaw. It just wouldn't carry the force into the lower body at all until you stretched the neck tight. It is like punching a tetherball and expecting it to move the pole. This is the exact reason that the stupid street punk knockout game is lethal. Imagine tying two cars together with a tow rope but then gassing it. The rope CAN tow the car but it can't do it under full acceleration. This is why the head punch complaint is spot on but yet the body blow flying sidekick works. And then we age.... Recently I punched a bag of goat feed to break up some clumps and totally rolled my wrist. I would shatter like glass if I tried the punching bag trick again.

For me it goes under the generic heading of "exaggerating strength/resilience of human bodies".

Anyone who has watched any boxing matches knows that people are VERY sensitive to having their head jerked from impacts. And boxers make it their job to handle it better than the rest of us would.

 

[greenmachines]

For me it goes under the generic heading of "exaggerating strength/resilience of human bodies".

Anyone who has watched any boxing matches knows that people are VERY sensitive to having their head jerked from impacts. And boxers make it their job to handle it better than the rest of us would.

Yep, ragdoll is all you get from a real powerful head shot. Certainly not flying bodies. And this leads to my newest whining about people who have glass shards fall on them and they "BRUSH IT OFF". Never going to happen in real life. First you should be gushing blood already but only an idiot would full hand brush broken glass off their clothes. Each piece would be scalpeling new flesh off your hands.

 

[pengbuzz]

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[joberg]

If anyone is familiar with the term TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury), it is the result of the brain being hit with enough force to cause injury to the tissues comprising it. Much results from coup-contrecoup, where the brain first sloshes to the far end of the skull and impacts against the inside of it, then rebounds to the other side and contuses against that. This results are injuries on opposing sides of the brain, with bleeding and tissue damage the result. Enough force can rupture blood vessels, result in weakening of the blood vessels (aneurysm), stroke and tissue death.

One issue folks don't quite understand is that with TBI, not all injuries are the same. They expect the person suffering it to "talk slow, not think fast, etc."; while this is true to some extent, it depends upon which parts of the brain were damaged. Some areas control speech, some hearing, visual, and so forth. When I suffered my injury in 2007, I suffered injuries to the parietal and occipital regions, resulting in loss of my art abilities (drawing, coordination, color vision), balance, focus and changes in my hearing. A lot of times, emotional changes can also result (in my case: moodiness, sudden emotional change, loss of temper control to go damage to the amygdala portion of my brain). To make matters worse: it worsened the Tourettes episodes I've had since I was a kid, and I ended up developing refractory (i.e. drug resistant) seizures that are non focal (i.e. not focused in one specific area).

And what they tell you about "the brain is endlessly rewireable"? They leave out the part about how the brain actually heals itself: it liquifies the damaged part, and you have to re-learn what that part controlled, which takes a long, long, long time (if EVER). The neurons that contained that info are toast and you need to learn it all over again from the bottom up. It has taken me many years to recover in any capacity( and some things will never be the same), and I can tell you from that experience that "brush it off" IS A LOAD OF BULL.

I apologize if this went on too long and into a rant, but the one thing I'd like to see a LOT less of in movies is the subject of head injury treated as it is now.

Thanks for listening.

When you talk about seizures; is it the Tourette episodes or "Grand Mal" as in Epilepsy?

 

[pengbuzz]

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[greenmachines]

The Tourette's are "tics" that involve head movement and some noises; the seizures in my case are both abscence seizres ("petite mal" ) and tonic-clonic (formerly known as Grand Mal).

Having both Tourette's and Epilepsy is no fun, and the bad part is that with the rally bad tics when I get stressed, they can trigger a seizure.I had previously been told by folks "that's not possible", but when I attended an online group a week ago, I actually met folks with both that confirmed they got that too.

In any event: the point is that head injuries are not something that can just be "shrugged off" and can very well have the potential to be life-altering. I really wish movies (especially the action ones) would take this into account.

Yes, definitely said it better than I did but that is what batguy was saying that triggered my comment. The movie idea that there is some "tough guy" factor and they can take a serious blow to the head, let alone not be cut, not be coughing and gagging on dust, etc. from falling debri. I went most of my life having never broken a bone so was feeling pretty indestructable until I face planted at speed into a wall when skating. Broke my arm, dislocated the other shoulder and slammed my head but never even got the black eyes so was excessively blessed that my wake up call wasn't far worse. Have several friends who have had recent falls and the recovery has been years. Now when I do stupid crap, I am pretty much armored and I still stay aware that brains can't be padded, only skulls. Head strikes are not OK. My one buddy has had the balance center damaged so even though built like a running back, he can't walk without assistance, getting better but taking a long time. He can do 400 plus pound squats but uses a walker to get to the bar, it is all brain issue. I was actually thinking about how to possibly make a tip alarm type head gear that could enhance the balance training but really very unaware of the cause or fix.

 

[p51]

And what they tell you about "the brain is endlessly rewireable"? They leave out the part about how the brain actually heals itself: it liquifies the damaged part, and you have to re-learn what that part controlled, which takes a long, long, long time (if EVER). The neurons that contained that info are toast and you need to learn it all over again from the bottom up. It has taken me many years to recover in any capacity( and some things will never be the same), and I can tell you from that experience that "brush it off" IS A LOAD OF BULL.

Your post made several excellent points, but they're points that have been ignored by pretty much everyone for decades, especially in sports and military scenarios.
I'll never forget a tank crew that run over what they thought was a shallow ditch but their night vision gave an incorrect view of the terrain. The Abrams dropped straight down several feet and all the crew were thrown forward very violently. Even with their CVC helmets on, you could clearly tell their 'bells had been wrung badly'.
The NCOs, of course, told them to walk it off and even were told to start grabbing person stuff and the crew served weapons off the tank in anticipation of the tank retrievers.
You could tell they had really bad concussions, and one of them started throwing up. I grabbed my medic and told them to ignore the NCOs and check them out. My medic freaked out and called for ambulance after looking two of them over (the others weren't so bad, she said). The NCOs lost their minds over that and I even had to stand tall before the man the next day for a Major in that unit, who said we were making too big a deal about it all and that "tankers were tough".
Paying baseball before I got my commission, I saw the same thing. A short stop player got beaned in the head by a line drive and the coach did the same thing to him.
I've often wondered about all of them and how they're doing today...

 

[pengbuzz]

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[batguy]

The knowledge about concussion damage is gathering speed and it's going to change a lot of sports & habits.

Full contact sports will probably get pushed later and later. In another generation kids may not graduate from 'touch football' and 'non-checking hockey' until they are 18yo.


The increasing knowledge will really threaten the sport of boxing. It's becoming clear that even sub-concussive hits do cumulative damage when you get hit repeatedly. Even NFL football is in serious trouble. It's not just that these sports need to change, it's that making them reasonably safe looks impossible.


I've thought for years that a lot of these sports could use player size restrictions like the way they do salary caps. Imagine pro basketball teams with an average height limit. Imagine NFL football teams with weight limits.

 

[Riceball]

The thing about concussions is that it doesn't even take all that much force to cause one. My son used to play water polo in high school and after one game we had to take him to the ER after he got hit in the head by either a ball or another playing accidentally hitting him in the head. Yet in spite of the risk, there's no requirement for padded swim caps, the only protection are 2 plastics cup, one over each ear.

 

[batguy]

IIRC they are finding quite a bit of individual variation. Some people handle head hits much better than others.

Remember Chris Benoit, the TV wrestler who went crazy & killed his family & self a few years ago? The autopsy found he had the worst case of CTE known to science. He was a 40yo guy with the brain of an 80yo Alzheimers case.

Everybody focuses on that guy's final days when he lost it. But it's also pretty remarkable that he went through 20+ years of constant brain abuse before that. They say he wasn't acting strange until the last few months. I can't imagine being able to keep it together that long.