The two people she killed in the prison though, weren't food or pets. Yes, that's my prediction. Little Lizzie killed the two sick people in the prison. Carol found them, possibly while she was still joyously carving on them. Scolded the girl, took the bodies out and burned them so no one would know they'd been carved up. Then when Rick confronted Carol she wasn't going to turn in her beloved little girl, because she didn't want her locked away or killed like the psycho she is.
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The two people she killed in the prison though, weren't food or pets. Yes, that's my prediction. Little Lizzie killed the two sick people in the prison. Carol found them, possibly while she was still joyously carving on them. Scolded the girl, took the bodies out and burned them so no one would know they'd been carved up. Then when Rick confronted Carol she wasn't going to turn in her beloved little girl, because she didn't want her locked away or killed like the psycho she is.
Riceball
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I thought that that was a rather odd thing to do too, normally I'd say that Glenn was smart in closing the door behind him, they tend to forget to do that on the show, but in this case it was totally pointless and actually counter-productive. Since there's no way any walker is going to manage to climb up to the ledge (otherwise he'd be dead already) leading to the door his back is totally secure and leaving the door open would, as you said, provide some extra light. At least he had the common sense to scavenge what he could from the prison before taking off, too many times in shows and movies people seem to forget to look for supplies in situations like that.
JBReplicas
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To me it seemed that Glenn was trying to get across the walkway when the tank blew it away, the impact must have concussed him
Riceball
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But that wasn't the case, the last we saw of Glenn during the mid-season finale was him in the bus as it drove away. Maggie had dragged Glenn on to the bus and were ready to get going when she saw something and got off the bus, shortly after that the bus' doors close and it takes off and I seem to recall a brief scene showing Glenn screaming for Maggie as the doors were closing.
CB2001
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We saw Beth get on the bus. When Maggie gets back with Glenn, she's not on the bus, having to have gotten off. Even if we saw Glenn in the bus and the doors closed, it doesn't mean he didn't open the door and get back off. There is at least a full 30 second gap between Maggie getting off and the bus taking off.
Besides, by the way it looks to me, Glenn got up to the exploded catwalk after realizing he was surrounded by Walkers, passed out and woke up later (this seems the likely because in last week's episode, after running a bit and battling a couple of Walkers, he passed out from exhaustion, probably from him still recovering from being sick).
darthgordon
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I still don't get what happened on the bus. How did everyone die on the bus with all the doors closed?
joshvanrad
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A couple of badly injured people could have been on there? That is kind of what I was assuming.
CB2001
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Well, there's a couple of windows on the side of the bus that isn't covered (I mean on the left side of the bus, which was facing in the direction of the Governor's attacking squad). Maybe a stray bullet broke through the back half that wasn't covered and killed them? Or, since it was literally the day after they got the meds to those in the prison, maybe someone who got on the bus who was still infected died from it and resurrected quickly (I'm leaning towards this because Glenn still doesn't appear to be in top condition, again going from how he passed out from running and temporarily fighting a couple of Walkers towards the end of the episode. So, there's probably a few people who are in the same condition as him and some who were waiting to get medicated).
That's what I thought, that a couple people were bit or were shot and died shortly after the bus left, then attacked the rest. On the other hand, the bus was stopped, if walkers attacked the bus would most likely have kept going and crashed in the woods.
Riceball
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They did show more than a few bullet holes on the back of the bus from where it got shot up as it was driving away even though the scene where it happened just showed the usual Hollywood sparks. My guess is that at least one person got hit & died because a 5.56 would have more than enough energy after punching through the back of the bus to still easily go through more than a few seat cushions.
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IIRC correctly, there was at least one or more people on the bus that hadn't turned but had bullet holes in their heads. I's sure with all those bullet holes in the bus at least one or two died and turned. once they started biting there probably wasn't much of an escape route as bodies piled up
SmilingOtter
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They might have had to pull over for a potty break, thinking the coast was clear.
I'm thinking that the two girls are going to substitute for Ben & Billy in the comic. We know how well that ended.
And I was very happy to see Abraham & co. there at the end. I always thought he was drawn to look like Paul Sr. from Orange County Choppers, and the actor looks a lot like a younger version of him.
I'm thinking that the two girls are going to substitute for Ben & Billy in the comic. We know how well that ended.
And I was very happy to see Abraham & co. there at the end. I always thought he was drawn to look like Paul Sr. from Orange County Choppers, and the actor looks a lot like a younger version of him.
joshvanrad
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This is what I have been thinking for a while now. It was more or less confirmed when they stated that when they cast the two girls they were cast as gender neutral characters- so they didn't care if they were little boys or little girls. It makes sense if they're looking to inch a little closer back towards the comics, which it seems like they're doing.
MFP 2020
Sr Member
But not enough energy to penetrate a filing cabinet.
From Star Wars ANH,
"It just deflected off the surface"
:lol
Riceball
Master Member
But not enough energy to penetrate a filing cabinet.
I think that at first the back of the bus was as strong as that filing cabinet was since when they showed the bus taking off the rounds apparently bounced off of the bus since they just sparked like they do off of every other impenetrable surface in Hollywood but then in that last episode we saw that there were actually bullet holes in it. So it was either some sort of delayed action thing with the holes developing some time after the bus was shot at or they encountered someone else who shot them with something more powerful than a 5.56 round.
andy19422
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I don't think in the whole series I have ever seen someone riding a bike! Surely every home would have at least one, and if you can't get petrol why walk? They are a lot faster than walking and zombies, and can carry a lot of weight. During the Vietnam war most supplies were brought up the Ho chi minh trail by bike, some carrying 400 lbs:eek
Seems like a sword is the best tool for the job, so instead of using kitchen knives and screwdrivers where you have to get close why didn't they start using swords. must be plenty of museums they could get them from and Michonne could teach technique.
Seems like a sword is the best tool for the job, so instead of using kitchen knives and screwdrivers where you have to get close why didn't they start using swords. must be plenty of museums they could get them from and Michonne could teach technique.
Riceball
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Better than swords would be spears and other pole arms which could be fashioned fairly easily with any knife that you can find and secure it to the end of a pole which can be found in nearly every household in the form of a broom or mop. The benefit is that in open ground it gives a reach advantage over a walker and if they can't get close to you they can't bite you. Thinking of this it kind of makes me wonder why we haven't seen more improvised weapons in the show, between kitchen implements and gardening tools there's plenty of stuff lying around that could be easily turned into a weapon. They may not be the best weapons or the prettiest but they'd be better than no weapon and most would work well enough against a zombie.
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