The Walking Dead Season 4

The most important thing to take away from tonights episode is that Lori Grimes was a worthless human being and couldn't do anything right even BEFORE the apocalypse.
 
I half expected her to pop Rick when she did the turn around and drove past him.
 
After that opening scene, I was waiting the whole episode to see if Rick was going to just kill Carol. Glad to see he at least gave her a chance

I think she undeservedly got the "unwanted family pet" treatment.
 
blakeh1 said:
I think she undeservedly got the "unwanted family pet" treatment.
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That's partially true but I feel that Rick did it almost as a favor to Carol, remember what he said to her, when Tyreese finds out he's likely to kill her, the others in the prison are probably not going to look very favorably to what she did and are likely to demand blood, and then there's Rick himself who he said that if it came down to just him and her surviving in the end he'd probably end up killing her himself. So given all of that hep probably thought that he was doing her a favor although I suspect that when he gets back most of the people aren't just going to take it lying down, especially the Council members and Tyreese will probably be pissed because she escaped his "justice:.
 
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Rick is a tard..straight up puzzle piece eater. Boots out carol cause he thinks that the others would want blood and tyreese would snap her neck. Calling BS on ya Rick. A couple of things they could have done to fix it and make people happy.

1. Could have blamed the death on the virus and she killed the zombies and quickly burned them to try save the rest from the virus.
2. Say someone who locked away killed them to save the group. Plus that person is likely dead now anyway.
3. Play stupid as carol acting

Now Rick, you just boot the person that you got her family killed with our actions. She help take care of your baby, feeds / cooks for the group. Help Carl with some issues. Plus that's Daryl's girl...good luck with him. Rather have a half nut guy with a hammer that started fights instead of her. Why not just kill Tyreese if he gets out of line.

So it's cool to kill your best buddy that was banging your wife when they thought you were dead. Plus the kids his..don't fool yourself. Ok, Shane was getting crazy and would kill you in the end. But let's just boot the person who tries to save everyone by acting quickly at the issue at hand. Rick is useless as always...

Carol should have just ran his ass down with the car. I would drive right back to the prison and take my chances even if you didn't kill Rick.
 
Once her 'humanity' was replaced by the 'survive at all costs' mentality, she became a problem to the group.

The show is not about survival as much as it is keeping your humanity while surviving. When the show has its characters doing something I would or would not do it doesn't necessarily make those characters wrong, just different. Everyone reacts differently to situations. Rick letting Carol go in peace was an act of humanity I don't really have. Repercussions will follow him as opposed killing her and saying she got killed while on the run, but he would rather live with those repercussions as opposed to her murder.

I also would have shoved the alcoholic off of the roof to the zombies below. If Daryl had done that his character would be changed for the worse going forward. We might sympathize and argue it's logic, but in the walking dead universe he would be a marked character.
 
Bob the alcoholic is lucky he's an army medic, otherwise he'd just be dead weight on the group.
 
Damn what d1¢k move from Rick… seriously, dumping Carol? Like that, in an ungrateful manner you can do? She had the guts to do to protect the new group not to loose more people and he booted her? That's so low. Yeah, Tyrees would have killed her, but the core group knows her so long to understand what she did. I hope Rick gets his barrel of whoop ass from Daryl and it'd be pretty good. Man, I never hated him so much like today…
 
It didn't bother me much why Rick did it so much as that he did do it despite his saying that he was through making decisions for everybody. Since he had absolved himself of any real responsibility and refused to be a part of the Council then he shouldn't have chosen to banish Carol, that wasn't his decision to make. At most he should have told Carol that he felt obliged/honor bound to tell the Council of his findings and that there will probably be hell to pay and maybe, maybe suggest to her that a self imposed exile right then and there might be the smart choice but he shouldn't have banished her on his own. If he wants to take responsibility for the people at the prison and be a part of the decision making process then he should join the Council and be a leader again and start being a part of making all of the decisions instead of just picking and choosing when and what decisions to make that don't involve him, Carl, and/or Judith. In short, if he wants to be a Chief then he should be a Chief all of the time, otherwise he needs to just step the hell back and just be a full time Indian not an Indian that's a part-time Chief whenever it suits him.
 
I'm going with the thought that when Rick put the gun back on the previous episode the Ricktatorship was back, screw the council. :)

Sure, he could drag Carol back to Tyreese and say here you go, do what you will, but where do the characters go from there? Does Tyreese forgive her despite his extreme anger and suicidal tendencies? I think not. Does Carol apologize or ever feel she didn't do the right thing? Nah. If Tyreese kills her she can't ever come back as a character.
But if Rick exiles her, we get options. Spin-off? Wouldn't bother me at all. Maybe Carol stays close by and somehow saves them earning a way back? Rick saves her life for now, creates tension in the prison, and she may or may not be back. What does it do to the little girls? What if she meets up with the governor? What if laughing boy survived and she finds him? (Okay, I hate that one)
The writers have some options now. Let's see what they do with it.
 
Monkey67 said:
Rick is a tard..straight up puzzle piece eater. Boots out carol cause he thinks that the others would want blood and tyreese would snap her neck. Calling BS on ya Rick. A couple of things they could have done to fix it and make people happy.
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Did you not watch the show? Rick isn't going to lie to the rest of the group. If he did, and it ever came out, his credibility would be shot. Carol didn't really deserve any protection at that point from him. Carol had done exactly what Shane had done with Otis. She killed those two people with the idea it'll save her life. She chose to take their lives to enhance her chance of survival, period. The moment she did that, she had to go, one way or another.
 
But the council isn't real. THIS IS A RICKOCRACY! :)

I'm kinda irked. Carol's been my favorite and Daryl is going to be rather cross with our wannabe king Rick.
 
Kerr Avon said:
Did you not watch the show? Rick isn't going to lie to the rest of the group. If he did, and it ever came out, his credibility would be shot. Carol didn't really deserve any protection at that point from him. Carol had done exactly what Shane had done with Otis. She killed those two people with the idea it'll save her life. She chose to take their lives to enhance her chance of survival, period. The moment she did that, she had to go, one way or another.
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I disagree, I don't think that Carol did it out of self-preservation, I think that she honestly felt that it was something that needed to be done for the greater good of the group as a whole. At the very least she was thinking of her "kids" and did it in order to try to protect them but either way I don't think that it was mere self-preservation that made her do what she did. You have to give her credit though, Carol did what few of the group, especially Rick, has done in the past and made a decision to do something instead of wringing her hands over it or simply refused to do anything because she didn't want to take responsibility. Granted it really wasn't something that she should have done on her own without prior discussion or approval from the Council but at least she acted with a decisiveness that I feel has been sorely lacking in the group.

Contrast Carol's actions with Rick who normally can't seem to make decision to save his life, especially this season and last season; he wants nothing do with leading the group and just wants to try to be a simple farmer. Then comes this situation with Carol and all of a sudden he's mister decisive and wants to be the leader again and his first act is to exile Carol without consulting anybody or seeing if the others agree. I'll bet that by next episode he'll be back to his old self and withdraw again and still refuse to be a part of the Council but still retain the belief that he has the right to arbitrarily make decisions affecting the group whenever and wherever he likes.
 
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