The Walking Dead Season 3

[Nexus6]

For the record, I love this series & don't have nearly the number of complaints I've been reading in this thread.

A crossbow is good but it has one distinct drawback and that it's slow to reload. So it's good when you only have to deal with one or two walkers that are a good distance away but if you're dealing with many more and are closing in on you that slow reload rate could cost you your life.

Another issue is keeping it armed. On one episode (when they were still on the farm), they showed Daryl making new "arrows" out of straight branches & bird feathers. That's a COMPOUND bow, a "bolt" with a wooden shaft would utterly destroy itself the instant it was fired. There's just too much torque involved. It was a kind of a :rolleyes moment.

But it's still the best thing on TV. :thumbsup :thumbsup

 

[Kerr Avon]

Another issue is keeping it armed. On one episode (when they were still on the farm), they showed Daryl making new "arrows" out of straight branches & bird feathers. That's a COMPOUND bow, a "bolt" with a wooden shaft would utterly destroy itself the instant it was fired. There's just too much torque involved. It was a kind of a :rolleyes moment.

We did see Michonne with one at the end of this last episode and carrying more bolts, so at least Darryl has some replacements!

 

[PAPA PRUT]

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We did see Michonne with one at the end of this last episode and carrying more bolts, so at least Darryl has some replacements!

Yeah he is going to be happy about that. Maybe he will go all out badass and rock dual crossbows lol

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[Monkey67]

I fenced for a little with my friends that went to U of M. Its kinda sport in that sense of style. But a fencer is really a good sword master in the art of combat. they train in the fighter circles. It is one handed sword they use of course. She would learn how to thrust while also learning to slice and block. She could have use what she learn and applied it to a stronger blade for slicing n dicing. Thus giving her a katana would be a better choice of attack n defense. I love the rapier, but i practiced with a Ninja sword n katana. i prefer the ninja speed n power. i can go one handed to two in a sec for that extra power. even if she played little league baseball as a kid, she can swing that bad boy sowrd around. you guys over think things at times. just enjoy her weapon of choice. Its nice in all, but ****ty in close combat areas. She should carrry a Toothpick knife for hallways n small rooms.

 

[Astrokid248]

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Yeah he is going to be happy about that. Maybe he will go all out badass and rock dual crossbows lol

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That's even worse than Teal'c with dual P90s.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I don't get all the hate for Michonne using a sword. She's not fighting samurai or anyone else with skill. She has slowly moving, if not stationary, targets to take out. Easy. My dad has my grandfather's Wakazashi sword he took off a Japanese officer. That thing is still sharp enough to take off an arm with no problem at all and it's hundreds of years old. I have no training, but I'd take that as my melee weapon of choice (until I could find a longer sword) if a zombie outbreak happened. I can duplicate enough of the movements to kill a zombie. You pretty much have to just not cut yourself and you're good.

Also who says she doesn't have any training? I don't recall them ever saying that she doesn't. Maybe that's why she has the sword because he was training?

A crossbow is good but it has one distinct drawback and that it's slow to reload. So it's good when you only have to deal with one or two walkers that are a good distance away but if you're dealing with many more and are closing in on you that slow reload rate could cost you your life.

Right. If you want to talk ridiculous weapons it's Daryl's crossbow. It's excellent for silent situations where you want to kill a single target quietly. If you're mobbed or indoors it's a one shot then sling on your back weapon.

 

[El Duderino]

This is why the Katana is not a good weapon in the Zombie apocalypse;

KATANA NOT GOOD ZOMBIE WEAPON

 

[Astrokid248]

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Right. If you want to talk ridiculous weapons it's Daryl's crossbow. It's excellent for silent situations where you want to kill a single target quietly. If you're mobbed or indoors it's a one shot then sling on your back weapon.

Daryl's crossbow is a Horton Scout 125, which has a lower draw weight than a standard crossbow. I still couldn't fire it very fast, but a guy like Daryl could certainly fire it faster than he could fire a regular crossbow. It's meant for short range firing, and in some situations, you can see that Daryl actually switches to a gun, especially when he expects the rest of the team to be firing guns. (Of course, he doesn't do it often enough, but that comes from the same part of the team that allows Michonne's katana to enter at implausible angles and bullets to exit at implausible angles.)

This is why the Katana is not a good weapon in the Zombie apocalypse;

KATANA NOT GOOD ZOMBIE WEAPON

As much as we're all dumping on katanas, a sword is going to be a better weapon than a baseball bat. Katanas are a great choice as long as you get some practice with it and understand the physics of the swing/anatomy of a zombie. Everyone else just thinks that Michonne's flashiness is out of her ability range, and I think stabbing with a katana is bad, but it's still better than using something that isn't even a weapon in the first place.

Personally, I'm using http://www.cashanwei.com/product/hand-and-a-half-sword/sh2365 because it's a bit smaller and has a peened pommel. I also prefer swords with both sides edged. I think that, in a group setting, everyone needs three melee weapons: one true weapon (sword, spear, etc), one tool that can double as a weapon (hammer, ax, shovel), and at least one knife. That way, they can get practice with a real weapon but still have something to fall back on if they aren't ready to use the weapon yet.

 

[CB2001]

This is why the Katana is not a good weapon in the Zombie apocalypse;

KATANA NOT GOOD ZOMBIE WEAPON

The problem with the link is that it's talking about a katana used by an untrained person. As I've pointed out before, in the comics, she's stated she had sword training while she was in college.

A big problem is DECORATIVE katanas (which you can find any any flea market and thrift store) are useless and you're more than likely run into them than a real katana. People think that you can take one of those and use them, which isn't true. In fact, Max Brooks pointed out the problem with decorative katana when someone asked him during his "Zombie Survival Guide" tour, to which he then suggested something like a machete.

To Astrokid248, baseball bats can be useful, but the wooden bat would last longer than an aluminum ones due to the fact that the aluminum ones flex a lot more than wood ones. Max Brook also points this out in the "Zombie Survivial Guide" that the best weapon to use is a crowbar (has enough weight to use against a zombie, and it can be used to pry open stuff).

 

[Astrokid248]

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The problem with the link is that it's talking about a katana used by an untrained person. As I've pointed out before, in the comics, she's stated she had sword training while she was in college.

A big problem is DECORATIVE katanas (which you can find any any flea market and thrift store) are useless and you're more than likely run into them than a real katana. People think that you can take one of those and use them, which isn't true. In fact, Max Brooks pointed out the problem with decorative katana when someone asked him during his "Zombie Survival Guide" tour, to which he then suggested something like a machete.

To Astrokid248, baseball bats can be useful, but the wooden bat would last longer than an aluminum ones due to the fact that the aluminum ones flex a lot more than wood ones. Max Brook also points this out in the "Zombie Survivial Guide" that the best weapon to use is a crowbar (has enough weight to use against a zombie, and it can be used to pry open stuff).

I own the Zombie Survival Guide. I own several broadswords and katanas, with one weapon-grade of each (and one broken $20 katana for the lulz). I own a crowbar. I also happen to be able to purchase watermelons. I'm sorry, but Max Brook is just a little bit wrong when it comes to long-term use or any situation in which you are purposely going up against zombies instead of just defending yourself. A crowbar is certainly the best tool to use as a weapon if you don't have a proper weapon on hand, but there's a reason people started using swords instead of carpentry tools. The sword is tailor made to deliver as much killing power with as little fatigue as possible, which means you take a slight efficiency hit but can keep fighting a lot longer. Doesn't matter whether you're fighting knights or zombies (or if you're German, Russian Boar), a sword or a similar purpose-built weapon will be the best option. Which is why I think everyone needs both a melee weapon and a tool. (Incidentally, this was a research project I had a while back. The best sword to use is actually a Damascus scimitar, which are better in close quarters combat, but I think a western sword is better for an amateur whose first instinct is to stab rather than slash.)
Also, make sure that you use a normal sized crowbar, not a 6-foot crowbar. I don't know why we have one, but it's a ***** to swing. And, aluminum bats should be banned from college baseball. They make the game too easy. I get that the resonance increases the sweet spot, but sometimes cool science takes the fun out of whacking a ball with a stick.

 

[Riceball]

What would work well, esp. if you have several buddies, is a good Roman gladius along with the classic rectangular style scutum, add some hard knuckled tactical gloves and some riot gear you could really (with a bit of practice) do some damage. The scutum would hold the walkers at bay and protect you from their clawing and biting attempts and you can bash them with it too, the riot armor would protect your legs and arms, and the gladius is tailor made for stabbing and should be more than able to penetrate the skull of a walker. Now you add some buddies and you can form a shield wall and you're less likely to get flanked and impossible to be flanked in close quarters. If you have enough people you can then work on classic Roman legionary tactics and rotate people in from the rear after a certain amount of time so that that you don't get too tired.

The only major flaw with my idea is that decent gladiuses and scutums are probably a lot less common than any other sort of weaponry unless you happen to live in a town full of Roman re-enactors.

 

[robstyle]

People keep forgetting this is a TV show and NOT a comic book thread. Were talking about a TV show, NOT a comic book. Fans of the comic feel free to start a comic book thread, this is about a TV series.

I dont care to read the comic so I dont comment on it. Whatever works on printed pages doesnt translate over much of the time. If sword girl works on the printed page so be it. Up until this past episode the character was a dismal failure. You have to look past what you as a comic fan have become accustomed to and actually watch the alternate reality of that comic which is the tv series to really notice this.

By the way, last time a character changed this much out of the blue that I know of was Mal in Firefly, pilot episode vs the rest of the show.

 

[Husker75]

Well, Robstyle, a lot of firefly fans would also argue that mal didn't change much at all from the pilot..

But there is no need for a comic-book thread. It's a show based on a still running and very popular comic book. Comparing the two, and similar plot points and backstories is only natural, and I don't see why there can't be discussion in here of both. That's like saying everyone who has been talking about the effectiveness of weapons above this should start a different thread. We are all just sharing our love for the show and the subject. Don't see that as a problem, personally. My entire family has not read the comic. I'm the only one who has, and yet they all loved Michonne from the beginning (and hated andrea). So a lot of what some of you seem to be hating on Michonne for is clearly nowhere near universal. Most of us are perfectly capable of taking the show and comic as their own thing. I love to do so, because the comic killed characters off too soon, or in different order, and the show does the same in other ways. The show and the comic also have different story lines, backstories, and characters. Daryl is amazing on the show!

I totally get your point that not everything translates well from page to screen. I think they do a great job of that on the show. It's played to the strengths of the showrunners and their experience, while still keeping Kirkman involved and in the loop. But if Michonne doesn't work for you with the sword and stuff, I can understand that. I just think it is silly for people to keep saying she was a horrible character when obviously not everyone agrees. Andrea bugs the crap out of me, but I try not to hate her. I know I've got bias from the comics because that andrea was awesome.. But I don't like the direction they took with her character. Still, listening to Laurie Holden defend the choices and the reasons behind things for that character can be pretty compelling too.

 

[astroboy]

I don't hate any of the characters. I hate how they are often written

 

[rodneyfaile]

I've never even seen a Walking Dead comic, and I think Michonne is great on the TV show. I like that she doesn't have a lot to say and we don't know much about her. The sword is cool for chopping slow moving zombies. Trained or not, you will get good at learning to defend yourself or die. Natural selection.

 

[PAPA PRUT]

She says what she has to, when she feels she needs to. I think after the last episode though we might see her open up a little more. I think her going along on the gun run was good for her relationship with rick. I think she feels a bit more comfortable now.

 

[Sigma-LS]

Anybody else go through the episode with their DVR and just pause and read a bunch of the graffiti and look at the traps and stuff?

I gotta say the sets were the best part of the last episode. I mean the episode itself was really good but the sets were just so much fun, they really blew the rest of it out of the water.

 

[PAPA PRUT]

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Anybody else go through the episode with their DVR and just pause and read a bunch of the graffiti and look at the traps and stuff?

I gotta say the sets were the best part of the last episode. I mean the episode itself was really good but the sets were just so much fun, they really blew the rest of it out of the water.

I completely agree. Their attention to detail is incredible. They dont just focus on what you immediately see, but what goes on in the background as well. The traps were really awesome, very clever. I always try to go back and look for things I miss the first time around.

 

[Shendorion]

Re: getting rid of the baby and keeping the team as small as possible:

What would be the point? What purpose does their continued survival serve? Once you write off the possibility of continuing humanity beyond the lives of the existing adult characters, their struggles become completely pointless. Everybody dies in the end, and considering what goes on in the meantime, the best rational choice would be to make the meantime as short as possible if there isn't some more ambitious goal than one more day of horror and dry rations for the last humans on Earth.

 

[robstyle]

if we were sticking to the decades prior introduction of a child to an already established cast, that would mean the show isnt going to last another season, lol.