The Rise of Skywalker: Episode IX Graflex

Good question - this post is the first time I've heard about it, so it's likely pretty new. Haven't seen anything on his facebook page on it yet either.
 
khal1993 I think the concern from some people is, they already bought a Graflex (real, Romans, etc...), they already bought grips (Roy, Gino, Todd, etc...), they already bought a circuit card from slothfurnace- what they need is the metal grip with the belt hook, the clamp with activation box, and the leather. Once assembled, they may drill and use real rivets in the clamp band.

$200 for the whole saber plus all the parts in the kit is a great deal, some people just want the clamp, leather, and 1x metal grip for $50-$80 instead. Even though the movie prop was a Romans replica, some folks want to use a real Graflex and would rather not pay more for a replica they aren’t going to use.

I could go either way since the real prop was a replica, but I also have 3x unconverted real Graflexes and I was planning on using 1 of them for this build. I would be a lot more likely to buy just the clamp, leather, and metal grip from you but if all you’re offering is the entire saber I might wait for Roman or anakinstarkiller or someone to make just those parts available.

Hi James Kenobi 1138 :)

Regarding the kits, the reason why I made the kit so extensive was because there are no other parts out there that meet the same specs and accuracy.

So, when you say people are concerned because they already have grips, and have a circuit card etc. Those parts they already have are not TROS spec. With no disrespect to Todd/Wanna Wanga (who was actually involved in my kit) and Slothfurnace, but none of the grips Todd offers are TROS spec and I have seen the card that Slothfurnace made; it’s not perfect to the prop. According to Brad (Slothfurnace) he made a card for a display saber at Galaxies edge. Not for the prop itself. It’s close, but not perfect. It also isn’t designed to fit around any sort of control box, as the control box for the prop is not Kobold sized. Like I said, no disrespect to them and if people want to use parts they already have to make it look close, that’s totally fine also. ;)

Truthfully, the only way other vendors can truly replicate the accuracy of these parts is if they were to take the measurements from my kit and produce them themselves (recast). WannaWanga, GOTH3Designs and even Romans can all backup the accuracy of this kit. Especially Romans because I was the one who confirmed it was a Romans just a few months after the first trailer. I can’t say so much publicly as to how it is so accurate, but I have a solid reputation and I don’t take any short cuts. :)

Remember, just as of now, the offering is an entire saber. I will see how this initial launch goes and then if it sells out, I’ll make the kits standalone. For sure. :cool:
 
khal1993 I'm not questioning the accuracy of your kit or parts, and I'm not saying it isn't a fantastic deal for the price, I'm just saying there are some people who aren't as concerned with 100% accuracy.

They may want to use a real Graflex (not accurate to TROS), Gino/Roy/Todd grips (not accurate to TROS), and only want to purchase the parts they don't already have.

The RPF is wide and diverse place. Some people only want 100% accurate at any cost. Some people love to build and always like to 'do it themselves' and don't like to purchase finished props. Some people will always try to spend less and do more work themselves because it's more cost effective. Some people like idealized props, or props that look more like the 'in universe' item than being true the actual prop itself. Some people only want a prop in their collection if it's as accurate as it can possibly be.

Limited options and less availability limits choices and doesn't allow for everyone to flourish with how they like building or collecting props, that's all I'm saying.

For me, buying a ready built, ready to display TROS saber that is really accurate for a great price is amazing. I can say, however, that I was planning on converting one of my real Graflexes to the TROS version. Would I buy a finished version from you and literally strip off all the parts from the replica so I can use them on my real Graflex? I might. Seems like a lot of work but if that is how I want my prop them I might do it. Maybe. Seems like a lot of work though, sure would be easier to buy all the parts except for the actual flash handle for less money then the finished saber though.

For the record, I'm in on your full saber as it's being offered today.
 
khal1993
Is there an option to receive your full Graflex without the grips already installed on the tube?
I'm just going to take off those grips anyway and put them on Romans.
I don't want to risk damaging the grips while removing.
 
khal1993
Is there an option to receive your full Graflex without the grips already installed on the tube?
I'm just going to take off those grips anyway and put them on Romans.
I don't want to risk damaging the grips while removing.

Ideally this is how I would want my kit also. Easier to attach all fresh, accurate grips to the Graflex I already have and use the replica Graflex in the kit for a different project.
 
I think they are mostly already attached.

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I checked the KR Sabers website and FB to see about ordering but I didn't see the TROS saber version available or ordering info.
 
Can't see the issue myself. They are coming how the circumstances dictated.

Yeah, it'll be a bit of extra effort for those who want to use other parts, but it's not like we've never had to remove grips etc before from our graflex replicas/flashes when new things were discovered
 
khal1993 I'm not questioning the accuracy of your kit or parts, and I'm not saying it isn't a fantastic deal for the price, I'm just saying there are some people who aren't as concerned with 100% accuracy.

They may want to use a real Graflex (not accurate to TROS), Gino/Roy/Todd grips (not accurate to TROS), and only want to purchase the parts they don't already have.

The RPF is wide and diverse place. Some people only want 100% accurate at any cost. Some people love to build and always like to 'do it themselves' and don't like to purchase finished props. Some people will always try to spend less and do more work themselves because it's more cost effective. Some people like idealized props, or props that look more like the 'in universe' item than being true the actual prop itself. Some people only want a prop in their collection if it's as accurate as it can possibly be.

Limited options and less availability limits choices and doesn't allow for everyone to flourish with how they like building or collecting props, that's all I'm saying.

For me, buying a ready built, ready to display TROS saber that is really accurate for a great price is amazing. I can say, however, that I was planning on converting one of my real Graflexes to the TROS version. Would I buy a finished version from you and literally strip off all the parts from the replica so I can use them on my real Graflex? I might. Seems like a lot of work but if that is how I want my prop them I might do it. Maybe. Seems like a lot of work though, sure would be easier to buy all the parts except for the actual flash handle for less money then the finished saber though.

For the record, I'm in on your full saber as it's being offered today.

OK, well, I think the solution is pretty clear and easy to be honest. I'll probably make a video update about this too as it'll be easier to reach people. Since I am not so active on the RPF, I'm not as 'clued up' on how the community likes things etc. So, I'll happily make an effort to please everybody! :cry:

How does this sound?

So far, I have assembled about 220 bottoms out of the 400 Graflex parts I have. So, what I'll do is stop when I get to 250 and keep those to one side. Then, I'll leave 100 of them all totally unassembled. No grips attached; no belt clip attached etc. Then I'll add the listing to the store and have simple drop down for ordering.

1. Assembled Option (Full unit) $199.00

2. Unassembled Option Conversion Parts Only $149.00 (this was always going to be the original price of the full kit anyway)

Option 2 would exclude the upper assembly and I can add those back to the disassembled 3 Cell Flashguns and sell the complete Grade B flashguns for like $100 or something? :cool:

Does this sound like a good idea guys? If everyone could comment and let me know if they like this idea that would be great.

I just want to try and please everybody. Hopefully those who know me know that I just want to make sure everyone is happy and that they are excited for these!

Khal
 
khal1993
Is there an option to receive your full Graflex without the grips already installed on the tube?
I'm just going to take off those grips anyway and put them on Romans.
I don't want to risk damaging the grips while removing.

See above. Let me know if you guys would like this as an option :)
 
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