Interest The Pink Panther "DIAMOND"!!! Hand-Carved Crystal Glass w/ 3D Laser Etched Panther!!!

With respect to everyone - and believe me, I have a LOT of respect for all the talented artists here on the RPF - my two cents are as follows: I agree that the panther looks too much like a large jaguar car emblem or puma shoe logo vs. a subtle inclusion. Plus, my preference is an EXACT REPRODUCTION OF THE ACTUAL PROP. Not an artist's conceptualization. That's why I, like many others here on the Replica Prop Forum, do what we do - make and collect replica props with an emphasis on annoyingly accurate, often obscure detail. Was the actual, original prop colored? No? Then don't color it. Did it have an inclusion? No? Then don't add one. It's a movie PROP, not a real diamond. I want my replica prop to be as close to the original prop as possible, down to the size & facets. I don't care about glass or CZ - we all know it's not a real diamond. Accuracy is important. Price is important too, so I'd be happy with glass. I made a replica of the original Pink Panther necklace from the first movie out of plastic and glass gems, and it looks pretty good if I do say so myself. Instantly recognizable next to a picture of the real thing. I would love to have the second Return of the Pink Panther prop along side of it!
 
Lightning said:
you could have it springing towards the viewer.
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A worthy idea, though my hunch is front-on might be more difficult to discern.

Lightning said:
I always thought it was odd that the voiceover in "Return" talks about a springing panther and then they immediately show the panther silhouette. But he's making an odd pose that really can't be described as springing.
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Maybe... it's his butt... that's springing independently? Yeah. Same with the initial 1963 film.

Though here's the fun catch making this all-the-more ambiguous: In The Pink Panther, it supposedly IS a "leaping" panther!

Come on, Blake Edwards. Tsk-tsk. :rolleyes:


scottsusernames I'm largely on a similar page to you as far as ideally wanting the prop. Granted, the Christie's listing described it as "rock crystal," so that made me wonder if CZ could make it more visually accurate to the film? Just a consideration.

The one deviation of an inclusion I think of as perhaps akin to making a higher-tech interior for a Stormtrooper helmet; an inaccurate embellishment, but mostly hidden. I've sorta been assuming an inclusion would be obscured by the densely-faceted faces and essentially invisible other than from the flat bottom, which will under normal circumstances be face down on whatever display surface. But anyone by all means correct me if that's not how inclusion visibility works. In any case, I'm not wedded to it, nor would I mind an inclusion being subtler or smaller if that made it more generally acceptable.
 
If there is an inclusion, it should look natural and not cartoonish... It would be more abstract and look more like an inclusion, instead of a 3D panther....

Sort of like these real life inclusions that resemble things...

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I’m new here so my opinion doesn’t have much weight, but here’s my two cents. Both og and return movie props have been discussed and analyzed, but they are quite different and I’m not entirely sure which is being made. If original PP, then it should be ever-so-slightly-pink teardrop shaped crystal glass (can colored cz be done?). Accuracy is important, so while there was no visible “flaw” in the on-screen prop, it’s stated there is one that’s panther shaped so an artistic interpretation inclusion would be just fine. If Return diamond, then I think cubic zirconia would be perfect as it’s a clear diamond on screen (in my recollection). I can’t remember if there’s a panther flaw in that one, but the same logic applies. Anyway, just my thoughts. I rewatched the original movie tonight and took a screen grab when the king puts it on his daughter.
 

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RelicMaker said:
Who is interested in the "Pink Panther DIAMOND"?!!!...

I've loved the Pink Panther movies since I was a kid in the 80's, and I'm thinking about making the one pictured below.

The one below has the actual cartoon Pink Panther etched into it, which is from an animated intro to one of the movies, but in one of the films it is mentioned to have a "flaw or inclusion" that looks like a Panther leaping, hence calling it the "Pink Panther Diamond".

So, being a fan of Jewelry Heist movies, I'm interested in making the Pink Diamond below with an abstract flaw that looks like a Panther leaping.

Measurements: 60mm x 40mm x 30mm

It will be Hand-cut Crystal Glass with a Laser-etched 3D image of an abstract image of a Panther leaping.

Price: Estimated to be around $90 USD, maybe less... Will know final price when factory receives designs.

I'll provide updates and final designs when I have them!

Post below if you want on the list! :cool: (y)

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Am interested
RelicMaker said:
Who is interested in the "Pink Panther DIAMOND"?!!!...

I've loved the Pink Panther movies since I was a kid in the 80's, and I'm thinking about making the one pictured below.

The one below has the actual cartoon Pink Panther etched into it, which is from an animated intro to one of the movies, but in one of the films it is mentioned to have a "flaw or inclusion" that looks like a Panther leaping, hence calling it the "Pink Panther Diamond".

So, being a fan of Jewelry Heist movies, I'm interested in making the Pink Diamond below with an abstract flaw that looks like a Panther leaping.

Measurements: 60mm x 40mm x 30mm

It will be Hand-cut Crystal Glass with a Laser-etched 3D image of an abstract image of a Panther leaping.

Price: Estimated to be around $90 USD, maybe less... Will know final price when factory receives designs.

I'll provide updates and final designs when I have them!

Post below if you want on the list! :cool: (y)

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Interest List:
1. strategicgfy
2. glottis
3. blobcat
4. timw1031
5. Treeman
6. ZombieBait
7. infinity00
8. MandoJedi
9. Movie Magic
10. propmaker3000
11. Diabhal
12. zort173
13. bill313
14. shpider
15. asavage (x2)
16. probablyjarrett (x2)
17. Macorrie
18. goldcylon
19. Macorrie
20. Guardian Devil
21. Tommy
22. Oxford
23. blastmaster
24. adorman1
25. scottsusernames
26. poormansjb
27. TomVDJ
28. ataru72ita
29. HighlanderFX
30. katmax (x2)
31. Doug13031
32. LoriRuadh
33. Pirateslife
34. bk85
35. Bearba Fett
36. tripoli
37. Gygax
38. Metaluna mutant
39. ventuoguy
40. BoboFatt
41. Cato
42. aaronstreet2020
43. Treganna
44. Astyanax
45. Archangelysses
46. Dboboc
47. JackAttack
48. DutchNibbles
49. DracoAdamantus
50. Orion124
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Would love to be on the list.
 
My vote is for the diamond in the cold-cream. It's a clear diamond and CZ looks much more like diamond than glass- I vote for clear CZ for the Return of the Pink Panther! :)
 
Orion124 said:
I’m new here so my opinion doesn’t have much weight, but here’s my two cents. Both og and return movie props have been discussed and analyzed, but they are quite different and I’m not entirely sure which is being made.
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As far as I'm concerned, your opinion carries equal weight as a tentative purchaser of an under-development product.


To clarify, the proposal is the shape of the clear Return prop... but the options of varying color, material, and presence of an inclusion.

Neither on-set prop would've had a panther inclusion, but both are claimed to in-story: "leaping" in the former; "springing" in the latter.
The in-story Return claim is of a pink inclusion (which is possible in nature), though this is likely too difficult to achieve in a replica.

Cubic zirconia can be colored by introducing elemental impurities (a process apparently called "doping").

So yes, depending on the definition of accuracy you desire:

Set-accurate would be colorless, without inclusion, and probably ideally CZ.
Story-accurate would be colorless, with inclusion, and glass by necessity (per the update in the following post).

A downside to both above options is that you're left with no pink to justify the "Pink" Panther name, hence some folks' interest in making the entire stone a very light shade of pink in lieu of a pink inclusion. This doesn't matter to me; I'd still prefer clear. But I get why some prefer this.
 
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So, I took a photo of two versions of the Peacock's Eye Diamonds next to each other...

The one on the left is "Crystal Glass" (3.5 oz.), and the one on the right is "Cubic Zirconia" (4 oz.)...

The facets on the "Pink Panther" Diamond will be about the same size as the one on the left...

Not a whole lot of difference, but there will be a price difference...

I'm worried that the CZ Diamond will price out a lot of people, but I just asked for a quote to see what the damage would be, and I'll get back with you on that... I also asked the Crystal Glass company what their cost would be and I'll have the price for that as well.

I did here back from the CZ company, and they do NOT do 3D engraving...

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drusselmeyer said:
So, the choices are: do one or do both.

The choices are: CZ or crystal. Pink or white.

No inclusions.
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Well, inclusions are still an option; just per the update, only available in glass.

So we can have an inclusion if we wish (in pink or white).
We can have CZ if we wish (in pink or white - presumably).
We just can't have an inclusion and CZ.

BTW just as an aside, I really like your Blade Runner profile gif.
 
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The one on the right looks a lot like the Return PP diamond. I'd buy one! (Got one for sale...?) RelicMaker, did you make either of those? (Whoever did, I admire your capabilities!) Per Tommy's definitions of set accurate or story accurate, I prefer set accurate. I prefer a replica of the actual prop. It's the imperfections, real-life flaws and omissions covered up and filled in thanks to low-res film/video, quickly flashing screen shots, and story exposition that give props their charm to us collectors. For example, if you saw a stunt TNG cobra phaser prop in real life you would be amazed at how un-futuristic it is. Its just a lightweight rubber dummy. But it's "authentic". The real deal. Neither of the prop PP diamonds actually showed the leaping panther inclusions...they were implied by the cartoon in the opening credits. Plus, remember that there were actually two cannon diamonds - the "original" and the "return" - that don't even look anything alike! Different props for different movies. So for those of you who want a PP diamond that looks "real" as it relates to the movie's fictional reality, that's fine. Go for it. But I prefer a replica movie prop. RelicMaker - sounds like there may be a market for two distinct products...!
 
scottsusernames said:
The one on the right looks a lot like the Return PP diamond. I'd buy one! (Got one for sale...?) RelicMaker, did you make either of those? (Whoever did, I admire your capabilities!) Per Tommy's definitions of set accurate or story accurate, I prefer set accurate. I prefer a replica of the actual prop. It's the imperfections, real-life flaws and omissions covered up and filled in thanks to low-res film/video, quickly flashing screen shots, and story exposition that give props their charm to us collectors. For example, if you saw a stunt TNG cobra phaser prop in real life you would be amazed at how un-futuristic it is. Its just a lightweight rubber dummy. But it's "authentic". The real deal. Neither of the prop PP diamonds actually showed the leaping panther inclusions...they were implied by the cartoon in the opening credits. Plus, remember that there were actually two cannon diamonds - the "original" and the "return" - that don't even look anything alike! Different props for different movies. So for those of you who want a PP diamond that looks "real" as it relates to the movie's fictional reality, that's fine. Go for it. But I prefer a replica movie prop. RelicMaker - sounds like there may be a market for two distinct products...!
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I made the CZ Diamond on the right... It's almost similar to the Pink Panther in shape, but looking closer at the facets, it's way off!

Something to consider.... I would only be able to do either CZ or Glass, not both, since there is a minimum quantity required for each one, and there is not enough people on this list to be able to offer both...

Also, the 3D engraving will cost extra, which will add to the cost of the Glass... I should know in a day or two for the cost of each of all of the options...
 
The CZ on the right looks like diamond, glass on the left looks like err.. glass. To me, if it goes to an inclusion in glass, then it would make sense to do a slight pink inclusion. The thing with the inclusion is it would look random, unless it was held at a specific viewpoint- to reveal the panther!
 
ventuoguy said:
The CZ on the right looks like diamond, glass on the left looks like err.. glass. To me, if it goes to an inclusion in glass, then it would make sense to do a slight pink inclusion. The thing with the inclusion is it would look random, unless it was held at a specific viewpoint- to reveal the panther!
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To clarify, you're meaning that your main preference is colorless CZ, but if an inclusion in glass is chosen, then in that event you'd like the whole diamond to be slightly pink? Just want to make sure it's understood that the company apparently can't do a pink inclusion inside a clear diamond.
[Much though that would be my ideal preference.]

I do agree that I think there's a notable difference in the CZ looking more believable.
 
Tommy said:
To clarify, you're meaning that your main preference is colorless CZ, but if an inclusion in glass is chosen, then in that event you'd like the whole diamond to be slightly pink? Just want to make sure it's understood that the company apparently can't do a pink inclusion inside a clear diamond.
[Much though that would be my ideal preference.]

I do agree that I think there's a notable difference in the CZ looking more believable.
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Yes that is my mistake, I misread the post. I understand a pink inclusion can't be done inside the clear diamond- sorry about that!
 
UPDATE:

Here are the final prices we are looking at for the Diamond...

Cubic Zirconia (Clear with No Inclusion) - $150

Crystal Glass (Clear or Pink with Inclusion) - $90

Crystal Glass (Clear or Pink with No Inclusion) - $85

...price does not include shipping!

Do keep in mind that the original prop was "Clear" and No Inclusion!

I should be able to offer all the options on the "Crystal Glass"...

What I will probably do is make the Diamond "Default" option as "Pink w/ Inclusion" as I first offered it...

If anyone wants it "Clear" or "Without Inclusion" or both then they can ask for that option! :cool:(y)
 
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Not too bad all around, I'd say. Especially in comparison to the initial rough estimate.
Only minor bummer for some is it appears that CZ in pink is off the table.

I continue to vote #1 CZ; #2 Glass,Clear,Inclusion #3 Glass,Clear,No Inclusion; #4 Glass,Pink,Inclusion; #5 Glass,Pink,No Inclusion

I wonder if some form of ranking survey might help in gauging consensus?
 
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