Interest The Pink Panther "DIAMOND"!!! Hand-Carved Crystal Glass w/ 3D Laser Etched Panther!!!

Not too bad all around, I'd say. Especially in comparison to the initial rough estimate.

I continue to vote #1 CZ; #2 Glass,Clear,Inclusion #3 Glass,Clear,No Inclusion; #4 Glass,Pink,Inclusion; #5 Glass,Pink,No Inclusion

I wonder if some form of ranking survey might help in gauging consensus?

I will be offering "3" different versions of the "Return of the Pink Panther" Diamond....

"Clear" Cubic Zirconia (No Inclusion & Movie Accurate)

"Clear" Crystal Glass (No Inclusion & Movie Accurate)

"Pink" Crystal Glass w/ Panther Inclusion

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I would buy either the option #1 CZ, clear, no inclusion for $150 or option #3 glass, clear, no inclusion for $85. This assumes that the facets and size are as identical to the actual prop as possible. I'm looking for an authentic replica of the prop. Please...?! :)
 
Is CZ clear being offered as a choice?
Yes. It seems to be simply a binary choice at this point:

CZ –––– clear, no inclusion, as accurate as possible in shimmer & weight to the original "rock crystal" (according to Christie's) on-set prop: $150
-OR-
Glass –– individualized option of clear/pink, individualized option of inclusion/no inclusion: $85/$90


EDIT: See my next post below for more nuance regarding shimmer & weight.
 
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Maybe the movie producers couldn't get their prop in colored CZ either and went with the clear CZ to get the sparkle. That might explain the lack of pinkness in the prop.
 
Maybe the movie producers couldn't get their prop in colored CZ either and went with the clear CZ to get the sparkle. That might explain the lack of pinkness in the prop.
Looks like you can maximize profits and minimize products by offering just two items:
1) CZ, clear, no inclusions
2) Glass, pink, with inclusions
Use the same physical design (screen accurate size and facets) for both to minimize design time and effort, and simply omit the inclusion in the CZ item at no additional manufacturing cost.
That would satisfy most of your potential customers by offering an accurate prop replica as well as an idealized, artistic interpretation.
Keep in mind as well that some people, like me, might even buy both if the pink is subtle & light enough, and the inclusion is small & natural looking.
 
Looks like you can maximize profits and minimize products by offering just two items:
1) CZ, clear, no inclusions
2) Glass, pink, with inclusions
Use the same physical design (screen accurate size and facets) for both to minimize design time and effort, and simply omit the inclusion in the CZ item at no additional manufacturing cost.
That would satisfy most of your potential customers by offering an accurate prop replica as well as an idealized, artistic interpretation.
Keep in mind as well that some people, like me, might even buy both if the pink is subtle & light enough, and the inclusion is small & natural looking.
I agree!! :)
 
Sounds like a plan!

I'll have to contact everyone on the list to see what everyone wants to get a final number...

A lot of people usually have their notifications turned off...
 
Hey RelicMaker - I see that this post started back in 8/9/22! I hope that this project doesn't take after the Wand Company and stretch out for several more years as feedback is slowly accumulated. Is your research and design done? PLEASE don't wait for customer contact to finish that. You have over four dozen potential customers, fewer if we all die of old age waiting for the final product! In fact, put me down for 1 CZ and 1Glass right now, sight unseen! Git 'er done!
 
Hey RelicMaker - I see that this post started back in 8/9/22! I hope that this project doesn't take after the Wand Company and stretch out for several more years as feedback is slowly accumulated. Is your research and design done? PLEASE don't wait for customer contact to finish that. You have over four dozen potential customers, fewer if we all die of old age waiting for the final product! In fact, put me down for 1 CZ and 1Glass right now, sight unseen! Git 'er done!
The 3D design is almost done, which is required for the factory to work off of...

I should be able to press the "start" button on production in the next week or two! We're very very close!!! ;)
 
Not a problem. Get them made. ASAP. They will sell. They are not like fresh produce with a 1-week life. If they don't all sell out at once they will still be sellable a little later. Once people see that they are available - especially those outside this RPF - they will sell. Plenty of wallets out there.
 
I'm not worried about them not selling... There's a lot of fans who grew up with the Pink Panther series and even if you haven't and like Diamond prop replicas from either adventure or heist movies, they're going to want to have this! :cool:
 
UPDATE:

I just sent out DM to everyone on the list... If you're not on the list, let me know and I'll add you...

I am getting closer to start production on the "Pink Panther" Diamond!!!

I will be offering "3" different versions of the "Return of the Pink Panther" Diamond....

"Clear" Cubic Zirconia (No Inclusion & Movie Accurate) - $150

"Clear" Crystal Glass (No Inclusion & Movie Accurate) - $85

"Pink" Crystal Glass w/ Panther Inclusion - $90



Things may change with the Crystal Glass, since Laser Engraving this type of diamond design is difficult and the scrap rate is high...
They don't normally engrave a design like this and are going to attempt to build a form to prop the diamond steady during engraving and hope for the best...

I'll let everyone know if anything changes...

I should have design samples to show off later before payment is due as well...

Until then, let me know which one you would like and I'll mark it next to your name on the Interest List! :cool: (y)

PPD1.jpg


The "Panther Inclusion" will be a 2 layers of the "torso" and the other the "legs". The "legs" will be separate and set forwar a little to give the impression of a 3D panther. The two layers will have a abstract/serrated texture, to resemble a real inclusion.
When looking at the Diamond from the side, the inclusion will only look like a couple of lines, until rotating the Diamond and looking into the flat surface straight on, the "Panther" will appear!
PinkPantherDiamondInclusion2.jpg
 
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Just FYI to those for whom accuracy (either to diamond, or to the film prop) factors heavily into their choice of material:

I looked up out of curiosity the weight of cubic zirconia relative to diamond, crystal glass, and quartz (I assume most likely the "rock crystal" of the original prop, though anyone by all means correct me), and I was surprised to discover that my gut sense of gem density seems to have been rather poorly-calibrated. Not meaning to add complication, but I figure others similarly may find the following surprising, and possibly helpful:

*** Cubic zirconia is far denser than diamond, and in fact on the far upper end of density for gems as a whole.
Probably most of us have handled a piece of hematite; it's heavier than that!

*** Crystal glass, meanwhile, is generally less dense than diamond, but not as far off as one might expect, and denser than quartz.


Here's a comparison of specific gravities (weight ratio to water, or grams per cubic cm) for commonly-recognizable gems:

5.5-6.0 ... cubic zirconia (CZ)
5.1-5.3 ... hematite
4.0-4.1 ... ruby
3.9-4.0 ... sapphire
3.9-4.3 ... garnet (most common form)
3.5-3.6 ... topaz
3.5 ........... diamond
3.1-3.2 ... moissanite (closest diamond substitute - far pricier than CZ)
~3.0 ........ glass, "crystal" (either lead, or newer lead-free barium/zinc additive)
2.8-3.1 ... tourmaline (most common form)
2.7-2.8 ... emerald
2.7 ........... quartz ("rock crystal")
2.6 ........... agate
~2.5 ........ glass, regular


Of course, hardness is also a factor. Here's approximately how the same list gets re-ordered by the Mohs hardness scale:

10 ....... diamond
9.5 ...... moissanite (closest diamond substitute)
9.0 ...... ruby
9.0 ...... sapphire
8.5 ...... cubic zirconia (CZ)
8.0 ...... topaz
7.5 ...... emerald
7.5 ...... garnet
7.5 ...... tourmaline
7.0 ...... quartz ("rock crystal")
7.0 ...... agate
6.0 ...... hematite
~6.0 ... glass ("crystal" & regular)


And we can't forget shimmer. Here's the same list re-ordered by refractive index (ratio of speed of light in air vs. in medium):

2.9-3.2 ... hematite
2.6-2.7 ... moissanite (closest diamond sustitute)
2.4 ........... diamond
2.1-2.2 ... cubic zirconia (CZ)
1.7-1.8 ... garnet
1.7-1.8 ... ruby
1.7-1.8 ... sapphire
~1.7 ........ glass, "crystal"
1.6-1.7 ... tourmaline
1.6-1.7 ... topaz
1.5-1.6 ... emerald
1.5-1.6 ... quartz ("rock crystal")
1.5-1.6 ... agate
~1.5 ........ glass, regular


So for folks desiring accuracy, this raises a little bit of a conundrum.

CZ remains by far the more accurate to diamond in hardness and shimmer; more similarly scratch-resistent, and more convincing visually.

If you happen to above-all value accuracy in weight, though (either to diamond OR the film prop), then you might prefer crystal glass.

By the same token, noting where quartz falls on the refractive index, you might also prefer crystal glass if you value above-all accuracy in shimmer to the film prop (keeping in mind that a film set is often extremely brightly lit).


Personally, I'm sticking with CZ regardless; the idea of a diamond having substantial heft just feels more intuitive – perhaps due to the natural association with weighty precious metals. Plus, I doubt I'll ever have the opportunity to handle a diamond anywhere approaching the Pink Panther's size, so it's not like my sense of verisimilitude is in danger of being contradicted by tangible experience. But I could picture this making a difference to some, so I thought it was worth clarifying.


[Any mineralogists out there, let me know if you spot an error.]
 
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