"The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Space Adventure on Fox

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  1. Treadwell

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    "Full season runs" used to be 26 or more episodes. What happened?
     
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  2. Laspector

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    So, who had the alligator phobia? Bortus? How would he know what an alligator is?
     
  3. jarroth

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    sceptic about the orville: check
    nice props and set: check
    nice ship design: check
    fun to watch: check

    all in all i realy like it. nicely writen and good characters. good to see something nice for a change.
     
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  4. firesprite

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    I'm pretty sure Bortus was afraid of something else. The surgery, maybe? Whatever it was, it made him uncomfortable and he had to leave after admitting it...
     
  5. darth_myeek

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    I want a Bortus spinoff.
     
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  6. firesprite

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    Ah, HA! Found it:


    • Phobias: clowns (LaMarr), heights (Finn), surgery (LaMarr), spiders (Mercer), isolation (Kelly), being conquered by a superior enemy (Bortus)
     
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  7. Zombie_61

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    Pretty pathetic, isn't it? I can understand it to some degree with The Orville, or any other new shows for that matter. These days production companies are less willing to spend the money for a full season on a show that may or may not succeed, and if it really bombs they have few options to try to recover the money they've spent beyond releasing it on DVD and/or Blu-ray and hope it sells well enough for them to at least break even. But a lot of shows only produce 12-13 episodes a season now even after they're established, and I can only guess that's because the Internet, electronic devices, and home theaters have pulled people away from their televisions, so viewership has declined.
     
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  8. Gimpdiggity

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    I actually enjoy shorter seasons.

    I find with less episodes the chances of having several duds goes down significantly, and I'd rather watch 12 good episodes of a show than 10 good episodes and 13 "meh" episodes.

    Also, with so much quality stuff to watch it's nice to have a bit less of each one. I feel like I'm always two weeks behind on my DVR as it is...if everything I watched had 26 episodes I'd probably have to just stop watching a few things altogether just to be able to stay kind of caught up.
     
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  9. Zombie_61

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    For me, that's the issue right there--I don't find "so much quality stuff to watch" when I'm surfing through the channels trying to find something worth watching. 98% of what's on television today is complete garbage, and I'm being generous with that estimation.
     
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  10. robn1

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    True for me as well. The Orville is the only current show I watch, everything else is on the retro rerun channels.
     
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  11. Riceball

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    Same here, I find that, in general, shows with fewer episodes a season tend to run a bit tighter. The notable exception to his is GoT where they spend most of the season building and building up and wait until the last 1 or 2 episodes in the season to really show anything happen.
     
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  12. Cephus

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    That's an observation I've been making for years, that most 20-22 episode seasons only have enough plot for maybe 12 episodes anyhow, the rest is just filler. I'm fine with getting rid of the filler and just giving us the actual story.
     
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  13. astroboy

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    You know what I like? 45-50 min episodes.

    Those added minutes allow for a lot more plot

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  14. Borjis

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    I too enjoyed this latest one. I thought she was dreaming during the procedure in sick bay at first.
     
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  15. SethS

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    I feel like a total idiot, just realized that the doctor was Cassidy Yates on DS9.
     
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  16. JediG60racer

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    The Doctor from STV was also in this episode, in case you missed that.
     
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  17. SethS

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    That one was obvious. ;)
     
  18. Riceball

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    One thing that's been kind of bothering on this show is, what's Bortus' role on the Orville? I mean, what billet does he fill on the bridge since his role, aside from being 2nd officer (I think) what's his actual job since 2nd officer isn't a full time job aboard a ship. When not taking over for Mercer and Kelly when they go off somewhere we just see him on the side of the bridge manning a console and reading off things that we see Alara and Isaac do on occasion. He doubles Alara on communications and damage control and doubles Isaac on sensor readings and other general science officer type of stuff.
     
  19. firesprite

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    Operations officer? In Star Trek, the Ops officer is typically tapped as 2nd officer.
     
  20. Riceball

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    Ops officer makes a certain amount of sense, although I still maintain that an ops officer should really be in an office somewhere and not on the bridge.
     
  21. SethS

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    I think he’s generic space bridge officer. TNG may have tried to be specific, but the rest of the Trek shows would stick their cast wherever. Dax as science officer being helm on the Defiant, 7 of 9 taking random standing consoles, etc. At any point any cast member could say “I’m picking up a INSERT ANOMALY HERE on my sensors!”

    If Trek got lazy about it, Orville won’t overthink it.
     
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  22. firesprite

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    Well, the Defiant wasn't exactly a science vessel, and Dax was a better pilot than most, thanks to a prior host. It did make sense.
     
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  23. SethS

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    I know that was their reasoning, I’m just saying they will stick a regular cast member behind a console despite their role if they need them for acscene. That priority over realism.
     
  24. Zombie_61

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    Star Trek V? Wasn't that DeForest Kelley? I thought he died in 1999.



    :D
     
  25. astroboy

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    It was amazing seeing the guy who's been on star trek AND Stargate finally making his way over to another franchise.

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  26. CB2001

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    "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox

    And that's just his TV stuff. I still remember him as The Cowboy from Innerspace, Johnny Cab from Total Recall and Forster from Gremlins 2: The New Batch, amongst others.


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  27. robn1

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    *Johnny Cab :D
     
  28. glunark

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    Not to mention the werewolf from the howling who wants to give her a piece of his mind!
     
  29. SethS

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    AND Coach Cutlip from Wonder Years.

    but yeah, The Howling’s Eddie Quist is always the most surprising when I tell people that.
     
  30. Zombie_61

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    He's done one brief guest appearance; I'm not sure that qualifies as "making his way to another franchise". Now, if Ildis Kitan somehow becomes a recurring character like Lwaxana Troi or Q, you might be on to something. ;)

    Seriously, I wouldn't mind seeing Robert Picardo become a regular cast member. I think he's a strong and versatile actor who could add a new element to The Orville.
     
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  31. firesprite

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    Also... Orville is not yet a "franchise". It's just one show. :)
     
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  32. Megamicrofish

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    He was also under a LOT of makeup to play Meg Mucklebones in "Legend"
     
  33. MrSouthpaw

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    First thing I saw with Picardo in it.

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  34. Riceball

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    I always remember Robert Picardo from his days on China Beach as Dr. Dick Richard. For some reason people always seem to forget that role and I'm still waiting for that show to come on DVD or streaming.
     
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  35. Cephus

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    That's why I download every show I watch so that I have a copy regardless of what Hollywood does. When they put it out on DVD or Bluray, I will replace it if it was worthwhile. There are some shows, even recent shows, that have never come out on DVD, like the Bones spinoff The Finder. Not available. Well, I have my copy that I can watch whenever I want and when they finally release it, if they ever release it, I will happily hand over money for it. It was worth it, unlike other shows that I won't name.
     
  36. Riceball

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    In case anyone is looking at making an Orville uniform costume, I just found out that they used sneaker fabric material to make the shirts and are actually made in China.

    https://youtu.be/7N54eNGRDH8?t=13m14s
     
  37. firesprite

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    You guys!!!

    I just had a head-explosion moment. I was reading this article on io9 and realized that the actor who plays Bortus' mate is Tyrese from The Walking Dead and Fred Johnson from The Expanse!
     
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    Dr Finn's son, Marcus: Can we help?
    Isaac: No. You are small and feeble. And you do not possess the necessary intelligence.



    Isaac: Lieutenant, if I may make an observation. You seem ill suited to perform your assigned duties.
    John: Yeah that's what I tried to tell Commander Grayson.
    Isaac: Then why did she place you in command?
    John: She says it's cause I'm smart.
    Isaac: I would be happy to inform her that you are not.



    Bwahahahahahaha!!! Fantastic!!!



    I really liked this episode. Ed learned a lot about himself, we got further confirmation that Kelly is still in love with Ed, Isaac had some great lines...and we got to see John step up and take center stage for an episode. I love that he got a promotion, and I also love that we learned he's really, really intelligent...despite the fact that he hasn't really acted like it at all.

    I also really got my mind churning thinking about a two dimensional civilization. That was a really interesting plot idea.
     
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  39. Axlotl

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    The 2-D universe could have been done better.
    They shouldn't have been 3-D in a 2-D universe.
    They missed a real opportunity there to do some really fun photo-collage animation.
    Otherwise, good episode.
    I like this goofy show.
     
  40. The Mad Professor

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    I think the 2D space scenes were meant to be an homage to the dream sequences in Explorers.
     
  41. MrSouthpaw

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    The black guy started out as a helmsman and then became the head of engineering.

    geordi_la_forge.jpg
     
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  42. The Mad Professor

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    Well, the episode was pretty much "TNG never explained Geordi's transition, so let's do that here."
     
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  43. Krel

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    I disliked the way the other Techs treated Yaphit, when it was his idea that made Lt. Jackass's plan work.

    Yaphit could torpedo Lt. Jackass's promotion quite easily. All he has to do is press charges.

    David.
     
  44. Gimpdiggity

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    And John put them in their place for doing so, which was the point that we, as viewers, knew that he was in fact the right guy for the job.

    Based on Isaac's reaction to that exchange it wasn't only us as viewers that realized it right then, as he clearly noticed how John had handled the situation.
     
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  45. Zombie_61

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    Yeah, but John never did give any of those gumdrops to his new crew. That's just cruel.







    :D
     
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    I'd love it if now that he's in charge down there, every time they show that area there's a bowl of gumdrops!
     
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  47. Krel

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    It was Lt. Jackass's plan, not Yaphit's. Yaphit was just the one with the smarts to make it work. If anything I took the scene to show that he was feeling guilty for Yaphit taking the heat for the glitches in HIS plan.

    Worst of all, it was a clumsily written scene that made no sense, except it was suppose to show Lt. Jackass's in a good light. To me it failed, maybe because the actor isn't skilled enough, or because he may have been given poor direction, or because it was a badly written scene.

    But for the most part, a pretty decent episode.

    David.
     
  48. SethS

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    I am anxiously awaiting the inevitable episodes with the following tropes that were used many times over by TNG/DS9/VOY:

    -- the holodeck malfunctions / traps them
    -- incorporeal aliens take over their bodies
    -- the captain is kidnapped and/or imprisoned and has to either face down, or work together with an enemy captain (and is potentially replaced on the ship with a double)
    -- evil/good twins
    -- the groundhog's day style time loop
    -- the space/time reset button
    -- the time travel to our era/past episode

    What this show needs in the second season is a good foil for Ed. We need a Q, or Dukat, or Borg Queen-- some re-occuring villain for them to but heads with repeatedly.
     
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  49. Laspector

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    When the ship was plowing through all that 2-dimensional space, wouldn't they have been killing thousands of 2D beings?

    When they first entered 2D space, notice the little tip of the hat to original TRON music?
     
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    They didn;t say anything about killing the 2D beings but they did mention that they wouldn't even notice them so I took that to mean they were not doing any damage.
     
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