This ^^^
MH certainly wields it with what looks like an element of both weight and motion..
You certainly get the sense of him almost taming it like a buckin Bronco..his facial mannerisms seal the deal.
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MH certainly wields it with what looks like an element of both weight and motion..
You certainly get the sense of him almost taming it like a buckin Bronco..his facial mannerisms seal the deal.
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
I think practical would've been to get a new crystal and fix the saber lol. The attempted symbolism and explanation behind it was just lame for me. Also without the cross guard it looks much better, still not great but better.
Riceball
Master Member
Not that it's relevant to this conversation, but the whole idea of European swords being heavy is just a myth. It probably came about from the Victorian era and has been perpetuated by Hollywood. On average, a European sword, of any style from pretty much all periods of history tips the scales at 2 - 3 pounds, the exceptionally heavy ones might weigh as much as 5 but not a whole lot more. Even large 2 handed greatswords/zweihanders weighed, at most, about 3 -5 pounds, at least the ones actually meant for combat did. There were some that were purely ceremonial that might have weighed more, but they were never meant to be used, just to be carried around in ceremonies and parades so they really don't count.
There is, to me, enough symbolism to use proper engineering and use that to generate cool in-universe stuff, without falling back on mystical BS. That's actually one of the things about more recent content that bothers me. George, for all his clumsiness in execution, had the Jedi having been studying this stuff for tens of thousands of years. It's not mysticism to them, it's tested and proven science. Midi-chlorians are detectable, kyber crystals' energy-amplification effect is measurable, the effects of Force healing or Force lightning or levitation are sure inarguable. Even more subjective stuff, like how a particular kyber crystal might feel to a particular Jedi, is still quantifiable and incorporated into the training.
From an engineering standpoint, a lightsaber's cycling frequency would determine the light spectrum thrown off by the decaying photons in its nimbus. Mid-range 'sabers, like the ones carried by Qui-Gon and Yoda, are green. More ceremonial/less combat oriented ones are tuned lower, into the yellow/orange area. More combat-oriented Jedi tune their higher, into the blue. And yes, that makes Mace the ultimate badass.
I dearly like the notion that the exiled/rage-quite Jedi who found the Sith and, with them, created the Sith Empire, had to rely on what they could cobble together, and without the precision equipment or high-quality materials, their lightsabers (when they built them) were decidedly lower-quality, cycling slower and, thus, red-shifted. And that, in time, they did it deliberately as a sort of badge of membership. I like the idea of Ben trying to de-tune his lightsaber to make it red, and damaging it in the process, requiring the plasma vents. No need for eeeevil crystal-bleeding.
My Mandalorian plate-carrier vest, with the front-side plates semi-permanently attached (the backplate gets bolted on separately, and is optional), weighs in at about five pounds, with padding and electronics. As I've said elsewhere, that's 16-gauge stainless steel that's been backed over by a car with zero deformation. The same stuff SCA purists use to make their combat armor for when they're whaling on each other with big sticks. It would certainly feel heavy if it wasn't fitted right and was hanging off me. But on a well-tailored arming vest, strapped tight to the body? I forget I'm wearing it after a few minutes.
From an engineering standpoint, a lightsaber's cycling frequency would determine the light spectrum thrown off by the decaying photons in its nimbus. Mid-range 'sabers, like the ones carried by Qui-Gon and Yoda, are green. More ceremonial/less combat oriented ones are tuned lower, into the yellow/orange area. More combat-oriented Jedi tune their higher, into the blue. And yes, that makes Mace the ultimate badass.
I dearly like the notion that the exiled/rage-quite Jedi who found the Sith and, with them, created the Sith Empire, had to rely on what they could cobble together, and without the precision equipment or high-quality materials, their lightsabers (when they built them) were decidedly lower-quality, cycling slower and, thus, red-shifted. And that, in time, they did it deliberately as a sort of badge of membership. I like the idea of Ben trying to de-tune his lightsaber to make it red, and damaging it in the process, requiring the plasma vents. No need for eeeevil crystal-bleeding.
Armor also. Seen a lot of people over the years whinging about how heavy armor is, the Hollywood myth of knights needing to be hoisted onto their horses backs with cranes -- and being turtles on their backs if they got knocked off. Again, that's all true for the ceremonial stuff. Anything worn in actual combat was usually light and utilitarian. Between weapons and armor, that's how wootz (aka Damascus steel) and stainless steel got developed and adopted as widely as could be managed. The ongoing quest to decrease weight while increasing efficacy.
My Mandalorian plate-carrier vest, with the front-side plates semi-permanently attached (the backplate gets bolted on separately, and is optional), weighs in at about five pounds, with padding and electronics. As I've said elsewhere, that's 16-gauge stainless steel that's been backed over by a car with zero deformation. The same stuff SCA purists use to make their combat armor for when they're whaling on each other with big sticks. It would certainly feel heavy if it wasn't fitted right and was hanging off me. But on a well-tailored arming vest, strapped tight to the body? I forget I'm wearing it after a few minutes.
jkno
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Absolutely- I think his difficulty using the darksaber may also represent his inner conflict/turmoil. Mando is questioning everything now after his recent experiences helping people. He is no longer welcome in his clan and is probably seeing it more as a cult. He also seems very happy at the prospect of seeing Grogu and likely leaving behind his bounty hunting days. That would forego a need for a larger ship. Maybe settle down on a farm nearby, keeping an eye on Grogu with occasional jobs/adventures helping those in need. He wouldn’t care if he lost the Darksaber to Boba, as Jamesfett suggested, as he is looking for a simpler life and doesn’t want to lead.
Joek3rr
Master Member
There's always been an element of red crystals not being a natural occurrence. In Legends as I recall red crystals could only be achieved by making a synthetic crystals. In Canon, they've done away with synthetic crystals. But keeping with that idea that red doesn't occur naturally. They came up with the idea that crystals have to be corrupted, almost like they have be forced into working in dark side user's lightsaber.
Though season 7 of The Clone Wars shows that lightsabers can adjusted to create different colors. With Anakin changing Ahsoka's lightsabers to blue. I wonder if there's a limit to that.
Lightning
Master Member
Yep, surviorship bias in action. The ceremonial stuff is what survived/was saved to be put in museums.
Riceball
Master Member
That and, in the case of armor, tournament specific armor that typically lacked any kind of protection for the legs since all they worried about was taking a lance to the torso. So in those cases armor was heavier than what you would have used in actual combat. I've heard that that a typical full plate harness from the Middle Ages through the Renaissance would typically weigh around 40 or so pounds, about the weight of a modern plate carrier with 2 steel plates. The difference between a plater harness and a modern plate carrier is that the load in a plate harness is distributed all across the body and when properly fitted, is not as encumbering and doesn't feel as heavy.
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
EU Sith synthetic crystals were entirely engineered using science/Sith alchemy and are not alive. Unless I'm mistaken EU naturally occurring Jedi crystals weren't alive either. The canon bleeding of the crystals is all mysticism involving using the force to flood the crystal with pain, anger, hatred, all things of emotion to "hurt" them as they are "alive." Canon bleeding and EU synthetic crystals are extraordinarily different. The similarity that they are aren't found naturally seems like a footnote. One could also say "well, they're all crystals!"
ghostryder
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Wolfsburg
Master Member
Did I dream this up or was there ever a point in the old EU where it was stated that a Jedi would not know their saber color until they activated the saber for the first time? Wasn’t that a thing once? Just totally random? Seems like I recall that being at least mentioned in the Shadows of the Empire book when Luke made his new saber in Obi-wan’s old house.
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
This is pretty cool, good job. I've seen many original fan builds that are better than the Lego sets offered.
While we're on the topic of Lego, they should do retro re-releases of retired SW sets. There are a few that I never bought that I would love to have even as re-releases.
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
Right??? He won't be able to carbon freeze bounties. Guess he'll have to stick to decapitation especially if he's doing more than one bounty at a time.
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