The Batman

[mattycsi]

Batman has been played by Beetlejuice, the guy from Gigli, and a guy who weighed 125 pounds. It doesn't matter what they did before.

I just went through Pattinson's imdb page and realised I have seen literally nothing he has ever been in.
I agree that previous works have little bearing on the current.
I have no problem with Pattinson as an actor or in the role. The aesthetic they have gone for in this movie however just leaves me a bit cold.

 

[cboath]

Surprised to see some saying he's too young when Bale was 30 in Batman Begins and Pattinson is 34 in the Batman.

There's a difference between LOOKS to you and is to young. I don't think he's too young at all. I just don't think he looks the part. Nothing wrong with looking younger than you are either, I do. It's only a problem if you need to 'look' older, or look your 'age'.

If i said 'too young' then, maybe that's the wrong way to put it. I don't look at that guy and see billionaire, or even millionaire - not from those images. Maybe he comes off differently in the movie, who knows. The vibe i get from those photo's isn't bruce wayne. It just isn't. Then again, i didn't really get that vibe from Keaton either from trailers. He owned it on screen though. I just haven't seen this guy do a dominating presence kind of thing.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

I don’t have a problem with the man’s hair...The Rocketeer had the same haircut and Cliff was no emo.

Besides, we would have obviously heard Depeche Mode in the trailer if the character was going that route.

 

[Strikerkc]

Cliff Secord, you beautiful *******.

 

[The Brahma Bull]

I take it you've never seen him in anything else then? He's quite a good actor.

You totally misunderstood. I think he's a good choice. But all the arguments against him, that he's too skinny, that his hair is emo that someone could KO him etc...

Without this vampire movies his reputation would be different, IMO.

 

[Psab keel]

Depeche Mode is not emo. They are technically New Wave though their sound has evolved over the decades. Does emo music still exist? Does anyone even like it or care about it??? lol

Like I've said before I wasn't all that interested in this but the trailer looks promising, even for a rough teaser. I'll give it a shot. As for his acting ability I have only seen the guy in Harry Potter and Water for Elephants (my wife owns that one) and he's pretty talented. I've heard great things about the Lighthouse. As long as the script is tight it will be barely an inconvenience that he was in those "vampire" movies.

 

[ddspike22]

I understand the criticism towards his hair and whatnot, I think he looks awesome though.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Depeche Mode is not emo. They are technically New Wave though their sound has evolved over the decades.

Point taken and 100% agree.

I seem to recall that Personal ***** has now become a “go to” soundtrack for some recent action movie trailers (Atomic Blonde, etc.).

 

[Psab keel]

It was remixed with a Kanye West song I believe and Policy of Truth was used for the recent Death on the Nile trailer.

 

[Bigdaddy]

Emo?

No, I don't see the resemblance at all.

 

[Ron]

What about this Bruce Wayne, does he look like a real life billionaire playboy?
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Or this billionaire? Is he somebody you assume would have money if you saw him on the street?
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What about this guy? Would you assume an old man wearing a tweed sportcoat and a yacht cap was the definition of playboy?
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Hahaha okay fair enough. Then I'll rephrase it as who looks more like a real life Bruce Wayne.

To be fair he said if the two were put side by side, and he was specifically asked to point out which one looked more like a billionaire playboy, he'd pick bale (I would too ).

That said, yea, bale spends a lot of those movies only looking like a guy in a suit with slicked back hair (the same look as a character he played, that had business card envy, so not a billionaire). picking people off the street, they'd be just as likely as the other. and Jobs looks like a looser dad, and and heffner looks like an old creep (soooo... half right on him? He looked more the part of ladies man when he was younger).

All batmen are beautiful.

Right, thank you. Of the two I meant, who looks more like a billionaire playboy.

 

[mattycsi]

I just read an article at screen rant about how the role of the Penguin should have gone too someone who naturally looks more like Colin Farrel in the make up than to Colin Farrel in make up!
The article also went on to claim that there is no requirement for a Batman actor to be ripped or appear very physically fit!

The Batman: The Problem With Colin Farrell's Penguin Transformation

Holy make-up nomination, Batman!

screenrant.com

 

[Zombie_61]

Just to clarify this is what you guys are complaining about.
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Yep, that's it. Bruce Wayne, Emo douchebag.

 

[BTTUK]

Emo was just a silly perjorative that people freely threw around, whilst they handily forgot that;
1) they were guilty of some horrific fashion choices when they were younger too,
2) practically all music genres elicit, and/or reflect actual emotions.

You'd think after such whinging over "James Blonde", Chris Evans as Cap, Keaton as Batman in the 80's, Heath Ledger as Joker, and even RDJ as Tony Stark (to name but a few), that people might want to wait to see how an actor actually does in the role....

 

[mattycsi]

You'd think after such whinging over "James Blonde", Chris Evans as Cap, Keaton as Batman in the 80's, Heath Ledger as Joker, and even RDJ as Tony Stark (to name but a few), that people might want to wait to see how an actor actually does in the role....

I was right about James Blonde though!!

The others you mention never bothered me a jot.

 

[Strikerkc]

Alright, this one is pretty good. lol

It's not that he doesn't look like he could be a billionaire playboy in The Batman, it's that he does look more like he could be a vampire (which is fine for Bats, as far as I'm concerned )

 

[BTTUK]

I was right about James Blonde though!!

The others you mention never bothered me a jot.

Were you? I must've missed the memo where he was considered an utter failure as Bond.

I didn't quote you, so I wasn't talking specifically about you. Makes no difference if you did or didn't care about the examples given, when my point was that plenty did care enough to whinge like it was going out of fashion, before even seeing the films. Which however anyone wants to cut it, does comes across like the people who write to regulators like OFCOM to complain about something that happened on tv that it turns out they didn't see.

 

[HMSwolfe]

Yeah, I’ve liked Daniel Craig as Bond…I didn’t realize a vote had been taken and he had been declared “a mistake”…

 

[Strikerkc]

Ha, yea, that's always a fun argument to see.

"This actor is a failure in the part! I called it from day one, and no one anywhere has ever liked them in the role! Universally despised!" Meanwhile it's been 14 years, and 4 (likely to soon be 5) lucrative films later.

I get it, not all people like all movies, there's plenty of movies I don't like, but I understand that I'm the one that doesn't like them. Some of the ones I don't care for have been more successful than other, but if they made money, and there's a fan base out there, it's ludicrous for me to declare them failures that nobody likes. I can say all day long that a certain actor wasn't enjoyable in a role to me, but this need to act like my experience with the flick dictates what everyone else had to have felt is bonkers to me.

If a movie comes out and doesn't make it's money back, or falls well below it's box office projections...? Sure, it's a "flop", a "box office failure" but that's because those are measurable business metrics; it still doesn't let me walk up to a fan and tell them that they didn't actually enjoy the movie they enjoyed. Not my call.

 

[CT1138]

Ha, yea, that's always a fun argument to see.

"This actor is a failure in the part! I called it from day one, and no one anywhere has ever liked them in the role! Universally despised!" Meanwhile it's been 14 years, and 4 (likely to soon be 5) lucrative films later.

I get it, not all people like all movies, there's plenty of movies I don't like, but I understand that I'm the one that doesn't like them. Some of the ones I don't care for have been more successful than other, but if they made money, and there's a fan base out there, it's ludicrous for me to declare them failures that nobody likes. I can say all day long that a certain actor wasn't enjoyable in a role to me, but this need to act like my experience with the flick dictates what everyone else had to have felt is bonkers to me.

If a movie comes out and doesn't make it's money back, or falls well below it's box office projections...? Sure, it's a "flop", a "box office failure" but that's because those are measurable business metrics; it still doesn't let me walk up to a fan and tell them that they didn't actually enjoy the movie they enjoyed. Not my call.

Precisely this. I think there's a huge difference between not liking a movie, or even a couple movies (i.e. a trilogy), and declaring said movie(s) "the absolutely most terrible thing that has ever been applied to celluloid in all of time!" I mean, I get disliking movies, heck, I even get movies being disliked by a large crowd, but to declare that NOBODY can enjoy a movie, just because I don't like it seems egregious to me.