Terminator: Genisys

So, I guess we can call this film a retconquel (a film that is not a remake or reboot, but a film that pretty much retcons all the previous films).
 
Wow, truly and utter amazing!

but not in a good way. Wow, and these clowns are supposed to make two more after this one? :facepalm

"You see? I mean they're just pissing on us without even the courtesy of calling it rain."

"Game over man, game over"
 
I can't get past the whole thing. Especially the "Pops" part of the movie. And now Kyle is a Hollywood pretty boy type. That animated poster above looks like bad fan art. And to think we have another 2 after this. I just laugh at it now. :lol


Ben
 
And now Kyle is a Hollywood pretty boy type.

Early 80s Michael Beihn was at least as much of a pinup candidate as Jai Courtney is now, if not more.


As for the bus flipping, I will reserve judgment on that one until we know exactly how it happens.
 
Yeah, the car flipping end over front is another thing that we can add to the "tired of seeing in movies" thread. I'm sure there will be a big fat bass drop when it happens too.
 
The only thing I've seen that I like is how the new actor NAILED the T1000 stare. It's uncanny how much it reminds me of Robert Patrick, and they look nothing alike.
 
The only thing I've seen that I like is how the new actor NAILED the T1000 stare. It's uncanny how much it reminds me of Robert Patrick, and they look nothing alike.

Eh, it's not hard to do. I'm a teacher; I bust out the T-1000 stare seven or eight times a day :lol (It works especially well over the tops of your glasses!)
 
I still can't get past that awful bus flipping scene...:facepalm


intense, over the top fun. its a wow thrill ride kind of moment... if the bus just tipped on its side and fell over ala 1970's action car chase films people would wonder why they didn't do something more exciting and complain about it being low budget. I go to movies to see exactly this sort of thing in an action thriller. The train crash in Super 8 was intense and amazing! Movie Car chases and crashes are almost always bigger and more crazy than real life.... the only film where I enjoyed a normal crash in what was an over the top action scene in a fantasy adventure was the military truck in Raiders of the Lost Ark where Indy thought Marion was inside and even that was just a happy accident as the team set the scene up for a more violent flip but it didn't happen. It was a botched stunt. The truck was supposed to flip over by means of a telegraph pole being fired by explosives through the floor but the explosive wasn't powerful enough and it simply tipped it over. There wasn't enough time for reset and reshoot and Harrison Ford suggested they keep the take as it looked more realistic :D

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I still prefer the less "over the top" action. When the SWAT van in T2 tipped over and slid down the road, that was great! Excessively over the top pulls me out of it.
 
I still prefer the less "over the top" action. When the SWAT van in T2 tipped over and slid down the road, that was great! Excessively over the top pulls me out of it.
but we're talking about a film that has robot assassins coming from the future and driving down highways shooting and wrecking with no sign of any police chase. SWAT is kind of based on real world scenarios. Terminator isn't and huge flipping buses is just as believable as two T-800 models fighting each other while a 16 year old girl with a submachine gun watches. I think it works in context. :)
 
Realism helps the dramatic impact of the movie. It's a trade-off. It won't be a coincidence when this new over-the-top Terminator movie also ends up being forgettable, lacking the dramatic punch & lasting impression of the Cameron stuff.

. . . and isn't that a lot of what made the Terminator franchise popular? The fact that it felt big step more realistic & dramatic & plausible than most movies of its type?
 
but we're talking about a film that has robot assassins coming from the future and driving down highways shooting and wrecking with no sign of any police chase.

First film had the cops searching for them during the garage scene and arrested them in the end. You could excuse the lack of a chase in the end due to the precinct massacre and all the cops scrambling to find the killer.

T2 is a lot easier to figure out why there were no police during the two chases that occur. Uncle Bob destroying all the police cars that were at Cyberdyne (which was heavily implied to be 'all of them'). And the chase that happened earlier with the truck and two motor cycles was in a reservoir passages (Is that what they're called?) which I don't think the police routinely drive in.

Sigh. Nerded out, I know. But that's what I like about the movies. They may be over the top, but they do it in a way that still feels natural.
 
Cameron made the unbelievable believable.Stunts were actually performed,making it easier to believe.Terminators weren't super human. Everything after is just like transformers and that bus scene is soo overdone it's not funny. The possible dark future Cameron created,even though a little far out there has turned into the stuff of compete over the top fantasy rubbish. May as well get Michael Bay in for the next two. He'd be the perfect candidate.


Ben
 
Cameron made the unbelievable believable.Stunts were actually performed,making it easier to believe.Terminators weren't super human. Everything after is just like transformers and that bus scene is soo overdone it's not funny. The possible dark future Cameron created,even though a little far out there has turned into the stuff of compete over the top fantasy rubbish. May as well get Michael Bay in for the next two. He'd be the perfect candidate.


Ben

DON'T GIVE HIM ANY IDEAS! :lol
 
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