Terminator: Genisys

I mean, at this point, does it really matter? The first film shouldn't have had a sequel. But it did, and the sequel was pretty good. The sequel opened up the continuity so that time did kind of a loop-de-loop, and the future was no longer set. After that, the whole franchise has just been bat**** insane and also pretty middling in quality. So, this one looks to follow suit, only now it's gonna open up the future again a little earlier. Maybe time did another loop-de-loop in the future somewhere.

Frankly, I enjoyed TSCC, even though that too was pretty wacky. But at this point, I just accept the wackiness. So, yeah, this one will be mediocre, probably, and that's honestly fine. If you can't "unsee" them and they'll ruin your enjoyment of the next films, don't see 'em. I totally get that (I've still never seen KOTCS). If you don't really care, then maybe just catch it on Netflix.
 
Solo4114 said:
I mean, at this point, does it really matter? The first film shouldn't have had a sequel. But it did, and the sequel was pretty good. The sequel opened up the continuity so that time did kind of a loop-de-loop, and the future was no longer set. After that, the whole franchise has just been bat**** insane and also pretty middling in quality. So, this one looks to follow suit, only now it's gonna open up the future again a little earlier. Maybe time did another loop-de-loop in the future somewhere.
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I bet if Cameron had left in the original ending, we would have avoided the other sequels.


Personally, I still want a RoboCop vs. The Terminator film, based off of Frank Miller's story for the comics.
 
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CB2001 said:
I bet if Cameron had left in the original ending, we would have avoided the other sequels.
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Just as Charlton Heston figured that blowing up the entire planet at the end of Beneath the Planet of the Apes would avoid any other sequels. :lol
Where there's a buck, there's a way.
 
I totally called it on the Dutch Rudder though!


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CB2001 said:
I bet if Cameron had left in the original ending, we would have avoided the other sequels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EarXngYYlw

Personally, I still want a RoboCop vs. The Terminator film, based off of Frank Miller's story for the comics.
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I'm good with that as the ending to the whole thing. Of course, he'd never have done that, because, y'know, no sequels. And that's the thing. This franchise will never get an ending like that, because it'll ALWAYS be about the sequels.

What they're doign with this one, and what they did with TSCC, is setting up the possibility of INFINITE SEQUELS. Battles that rage through time at any place or moment in history or the future! Timelines constantly being overwritten! Endless opportunities to re-cast stars of yet another entry into the franchise that didn't take off because someone hit the time-travel reset button -- AGAIN!!!

We're all gonna be RICH!!!!!


Wait, sorry. I was channeling a studio exec there. Apologies.
 
kegas76 said:
OMG!!

If the middle aged T-800 killed the original T-800 when it first showed up in 1984 then Bill Paxton's gang didn't get killed.

The Fates demand that old T-800 kill Bill Paxton's mature punk in the current time, even if accidentally. In other words, Bill Paxton cameo please!
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^ Yes!
 
kegas76 said:
OMG!!

If the middle aged T-800 killed the original T-800 when it first showed up in 1984 then Bill Paxton's gang didn't get killed.

The Fates demand that old T-800 kill Bill Paxton's mature punk in the current time, even if accidentally. In other words, Bill Paxton cameo please!
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By the way it looks, the middle aged T-800 looks to have caught the original T-800 after killing Bill Paxton's gang (except for the one that was suppose to give the original T-800 his clothes. I could be wrong on this.
 
CB2001 said:
By the way it looks, the middle aged T-800 looks to have caught the original T-800 after killing Bill Paxton's gang (except for the one that was suppose to give the original T-800 his clothes. I could be wrong on this.
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Notice in the trailer the yellow heavy machinery is behind the young T-800. This puts his location as the spot where he first appears in the original movie, then again it may just be a misleading edit, he is still naked though.
 
DeLorean12 said:
^ Yes!
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Since it's going back to 1984, I can think of a lot of cameos that would be cool... even though 30 years hasn't been kind to a lot of these guys...

Lance Henrickson and Earl Boen from the police station.
Brian Thompson, the other punk in the gang that became a pretty familiair face.
And let's not forget Dick Miller, the pawn shop clerk.
 
glunark said:
I'll go you one further, if the T1000 did not turn up when it did originally, then the motorcycle cop he killed to first take on that shape is also probably still alive, so you could have a scene with Robert Patrick arresting Bill Paxton.
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I was hoping he turned things around and finally made something of himself.
 
glunark said:
I'll go you one further, if the T1000 did not turn up when it did originally, then the motorcycle cop he killed to first take on that shape is also probably still alive, so you could have a scene with Robert Patrick arresting Bill Paxton.
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Wasn't the T-1000's first kill Officer Austin (who drove a cruiser) under the Sixth Street bridge?
 
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Actually, the shot of it arriving appears to be the same as it was in the first film. But the over the shoulder shot of the middle-aged T-800 approaching the original T-800 is the original standing at the area where the original T-800 meets the gang (you can see behind the middle aged T-800 the front of Griffith Observatory, which in the original film, when the original T-800 approached the gang, you see behind it as it comes up).

Screen cap from the original film of the T-800's approach to the gang: http://ladymanson.com/galleries/movies/MoviesTV/albums/02132012/Terminator/1/term_0211.jpg

The T-800 steps up to the gang: http://ladymanson.com/galleries/movies/MoviesTV/albums/02132012/Terminator/1/term_0219.jpg

Screen cap of the over the shoulder shot I mentioned from the trailer showing the middle aged T-800's approach: http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/terminator-genisys-screenshots/vlcsnap-00288.png

As you can see from the pictures, it appears that the middle-aged T-800 gets the drop on the original after he kills the gang members. But like I said, I could be wrong. Maybe after "wash day tomorrow, nothing clean", the middle aged T-800 comes up, catching the original's attention and the gang members run like hell when the middle-aged T-800 whips out a big ass gun (or maybe as it was about to reach the gang members, judging from the distance the original T-800 is in the trailer from the original scene from the film).
 
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