Re: Terminator: Genesis
It's been mentioned in the past also: "living tissue over..."
It's been mentioned in the past also: "living tissue over..."
Terminator: Genisys
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robstyle
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Re: Terminator: Genesis
Yes, but again, I am talking plot point.
Roland was swept under the rug on TS not to mention he had a much larger role than whats in the final cut. In the behind the scenes stuff he is refereed to as "the body builder". Indeed he was upset and is why he turned down the prior incarnation of the new film, before it became whats now Genesis.
It's been mentioned in the past also: "living tissue over..."
Yes, but again, I am talking plot point.
Roland was swept under the rug on TS not to mention he had a much larger role than whats in the final cut. In the behind the scenes stuff he is refereed to as "the body builder". Indeed he was upset and is why he turned down the prior incarnation of the new film, before it became whats now Genesis.
Re: Terminator: Genesis
I know
But people keep saying that an aging terminator is an odd concept. When it's really not. Arnie could look 90 and still kick ass since it's still a machine underneath.
I know
But people keep saying that an aging terminator is an odd concept. When it's really not. Arnie could look 90 and still kick ass since it's still a machine underneath.
kalkamel
Master Member
Re: Terminator: Genesis
Future resistance from The Terminator and Terminator Genesis compared. Looks like the latter are using GPNVG-18... so CR123A batteries are still in abundance in the future. :lol Since I already have them for my ZD30 costume, I just need to get cheese graters for the arms to complete the look!
Future resistance from The Terminator and Terminator Genesis compared. Looks like the latter are using GPNVG-18... so CR123A batteries are still in abundance in the future. :lol Since I already have them for my ZD30 costume, I just need to get cheese graters for the arms to complete the look!
Father
Sr Member
Re: Terminator: Genesis
From a production standpoint, why would Skynet produce more Terminators than they intend on deploying against the resistance. It's a post-nuclear wasteland, so resources (or at least the means to extract them) have been reduced to whatever Shynet can salvage. Factor in that we worked on an international import/export economy (prior to them destroying everything). A lot of the materials they need to even construct Terminators aren't all local commodities. Most of these movies seem to be based in LA... not exactly known for its steel industry. So unless they have machines all over the country/world mining and processing metal, raw materials are whatever is available locally. Yet we seen them churning out an endless number of shiny metal robots, hunter-killers, phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range, moto-Terminators, hydro-Terminators, big giant Terminators...
And they're cranking out so many excess Terminators that they're shelving them for so long they "age" 20 years?
I thought the machines were supposed to be smart.
I know
But people keep saying that an aging terminator is an odd concept. When it's really not. Arnie could look 90 and still kick ass since it's still a machine underneath.
From a production standpoint, why would Skynet produce more Terminators than they intend on deploying against the resistance. It's a post-nuclear wasteland, so resources (or at least the means to extract them) have been reduced to whatever Shynet can salvage. Factor in that we worked on an international import/export economy (prior to them destroying everything). A lot of the materials they need to even construct Terminators aren't all local commodities. Most of these movies seem to be based in LA... not exactly known for its steel industry. So unless they have machines all over the country/world mining and processing metal, raw materials are whatever is available locally. Yet we seen them churning out an endless number of shiny metal robots, hunter-killers, phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range, moto-Terminators, hydro-Terminators, big giant Terminators...
And they're cranking out so many excess Terminators that they're shelving them for so long they "age" 20 years?
I thought the machines were supposed to be smart.
Re: Terminator: Genesis
:facepalm :lol
According to Reese, Skynet hooked into everything. Perhaps that would include automated mining?
Here's by the way a map of two known Skynet locations:
Who knows where the Terminator factories are located, maybe all over the world?
:facepalm :lol
According to Reese, Skynet hooked into everything. Perhaps that would include automated mining?
Here's by the way a map of two known Skynet locations:
Who knows where the Terminator factories are located, maybe all over the world?
Re: Terminator: Genesis
Resource gathering on a mass scale in a post-nuke-apoc world controlled entirely by machines?
The entire Terminator universe will EPIC FAIL under this kind of analysis.
I suggest you guys stop thinking down this road ASAP while you can still enjoy the fictional franchise.
Resource gathering on a mass scale in a post-nuke-apoc world controlled entirely by machines?
The entire Terminator universe will EPIC FAIL under this kind of analysis.
I suggest you guys stop thinking down this road ASAP while you can still enjoy the fictional franchise.
CelticWarrior
Well-Known Member
Re: Terminator: Genesis
For Gods sake don't watch 'Man of Steel'. It features an alien that looks like a man that can fly........ludicrous.
For Gods sake don't watch 'Man of Steel'. It features an alien that looks like a man that can fly........ludicrous.
Re: Terminator: Genesis
Celtic is right. You should watch Superman: The Movie instead. That one features Superman.
Celtic is right. You should watch Superman: The Movie instead. That one features Superman.
Father
Sr Member
Re: Terminator: Genesis
It becomes hard not to analyze them too much when Hollywood doesn't put as much thought into it as the fans will. I find it kind of insulting that they either make movies without putting at least some of the amount of thought the fans will put into it or they think the people paying to see these movies are just too lazy and/or stupid to put any degree of thought into it. Do they think all movie goers just sit in the theater drooling for 2 hours form the pretty lights and shiny objects?
Hollywood makes movies like John Hammond...
Ellie Sattler: "I mean, you have plants in this building that are poisonous, you picked them because they look good."
Dr. Ian Malcolm: "Yeah, yeah, but your scientists are so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."
It becomes hard not to analyze them too much when Hollywood doesn't put as much thought into it as the fans will. I find it kind of insulting that they either make movies without putting at least some of the amount of thought the fans will put into it or they think the people paying to see these movies are just too lazy and/or stupid to put any degree of thought into it. Do they think all movie goers just sit in the theater drooling for 2 hours form the pretty lights and shiny objects?
Hollywood makes movies like John Hammond...
Ellie Sattler: "I mean, you have plants in this building that are poisonous, you picked them because they look good."
Dr. Ian Malcolm: "Yeah, yeah, but your scientists are so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."
Re: Terminator: Genesis
Films like Salvation and Man of Steel are definitely an insult. You have a so called Superman that behaves nothing like Superman :facepalm
Go watch Superman: the Movie and believe a man can fly. Thank you Dick Donner
We spared no expense!
:lol
Films like Salvation and Man of Steel are definitely an insult. You have a so called Superman that behaves nothing like Superman :facepalm
Go watch Superman: the Movie and believe a man can fly. Thank you Dick Donner
We spared no expense!
:lol
Father
Sr Member
Re: Terminator: Genesis
The only thing I can say in defense of MoS is that up to that point he hadn't really been pined to the limits of his power or his moral teachings. He never had to deal with an adversary that could do as deal out as much as him so he never had took into account how much destruction and potential injury/death his battle could end with. Up to that point he was hiding and taking opportunities to save people as they came up but never on that scale or under those circumstance.
Not unlike soldier who have never been in combat. Imagine and train all you want but until you're in the ***** you're never truly prepared for what you're capable of or what the consequences of your actions may be.
Terminator Salvation I won't defend as much. The time line was pretty vague, but I would definitely question where they happened upon things like A-10s and even helicopters after a nuclear holocaust. They refer to it as bombing back to te Stone Age for a reason.
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The only thing I can say in defense of MoS is that up to that point he hadn't really been pined to the limits of his power or his moral teachings. He never had to deal with an adversary that could do as deal out as much as him so he never had took into account how much destruction and potential injury/death his battle could end with. Up to that point he was hiding and taking opportunities to save people as they came up but never on that scale or under those circumstance.
Not unlike soldier who have never been in combat. Imagine and train all you want but until you're in the ***** you're never truly prepared for what you're capable of or what the consequences of your actions may be.
Terminator Salvation I won't defend as much. The time line was pretty vague, but I would definitely question where they happened upon things like A-10s and even helicopters after a nuclear holocaust. They refer to it as bombing back to te Stone Age for a reason.
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Unresponsible
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Re: Terminator: Genesis
A good sci-fi movie holds itself up to analysis. Part of the charm of a good sci-fi movie is that it will open your imagination and make you speculate. A great one (Alien, Star Wars, Matrix) will make you think about it for _decades_.
A poorly thought out one (Looper, where they intentionally tried to shut down the audience thought process...in the script) makes for a movie that you watch then rarely think about ever again.
A good sci-fi movie holds itself up to analysis. Part of the charm of a good sci-fi movie is that it will open your imagination and make you speculate. A great one (Alien, Star Wars, Matrix) will make you think about it for _decades_.
A poorly thought out one (Looper, where they intentionally tried to shut down the audience thought process...in the script) makes for a movie that you watch then rarely think about ever again.
Re: Terminator: Genesis
Even the best sci-fi franchises can only withstand so much detailed analysis. There is a limit. Deal.
The premise of machines taking over the world is ludicrous at the core.
Blowing up the 2nd Death Star was mainly killing a bunch of innocent building contractors. Etc.
Even the best sci-fi franchises can only withstand so much detailed analysis. There is a limit. Deal.
The premise of machines taking over the world is ludicrous at the core.
Blowing up the 2nd Death Star was mainly killing a bunch of innocent building contractors. Etc.
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CB2001
Master Member
Re: Terminator: Genesis
Not to mention the Helo at the end of the film being totally unaffected by the EMP, one of a trillion things wrong with it :facepalm
Not to mention the Helo at the end of the film being totally unaffected by the EMP, one of a trillion things wrong with it :facepalm
Father
Sr Member
Re: Terminator: Genesis
One word in that statement says it all. Franchise
Once it becomes a McMovie that is more about topping the previous one with special effects and trying to beat its own box office sales records it's already lost its soul. There are obviously exceptions but after one sequel it's usually down hill. The Marvel movies seem to have reinvented this so far.
What's sad is some of the movie "science" fiction movies that at least make some effort to sacrifice style and cool looks for realism end up being meh.
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One word in that statement says it all. Franchise
Once it becomes a McMovie that is more about topping the previous one with special effects and trying to beat its own box office sales records it's already lost its soul. There are obviously exceptions but after one sequel it's usually down hill. The Marvel movies seem to have reinvented this so far.
What's sad is some of the movie "science" fiction movies that at least make some effort to sacrifice style and cool looks for realism end up being meh.
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Mektar
Sr Member
Re: Terminator: Genesis
What really was an insult was dragonball evolution...makes salvation look like a masterpiece.
What really was an insult was dragonball evolution...makes salvation look like a masterpiece.
