TDK: Harvey Dent/Two Face's Coin
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Darkknight0667
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It's a 1922 Morgan Silver Dollar (also called a "Peace Dollar"). They pop up on e-bay pretty regularly (the normal ones, not the 2-headed kind) and are fairly reasonably priced (at least they were when I got mine about 3 years ago)).
There's a guy in Canada, (Roy Kueppers), who makes 2-headed coins for magicians (including some from Morgan Dollars). I don't know if you can order a specific year from him from his stock, but he will make you one if you supply the coins. I still need to send him mine. After seeing TDK today, I've got lots of incentive to do this.
There's a guy in Canada, (Roy Kueppers), who makes 2-headed coins for magicians (including some from Morgan Dollars). I don't know if you can order a specific year from him from his stock, but he will make you one if you supply the coins. I still need to send him mine. After seeing TDK today, I've got lots of incentive to do this.
1922 is a Peace dollar (a Morgan dollar is a different coin). One in decent condition will run you about twenty bucks. You'll need two of them.
When they are altered to make a two-sided gaff, one coin is machined into a shallow cup, with the outer rim and ridges left intact, but the inside of the reverse cut down to about half depth. The second coin is cut down to a thin wafer leaving only the obverse, less the outer rim. This piece is then epoxied into the shell created out of the first coin. The tolerance is very fine and leaving the rim intact helps hide the seam. If done well, they look pretty darned good. The biggest tell is the sound when it lands on a solid surface (kind of a "clunk" instead of a normal coin "ring"), so catch it in your hand if you flip one.
If you're the machinist, start with a clean workspace and save your shavings. You'll wind up with close to .8 ounce of scrap silver for each prop produced.
When they are altered to make a two-sided gaff, one coin is machined into a shallow cup, with the outer rim and ridges left intact, but the inside of the reverse cut down to about half depth. The second coin is cut down to a thin wafer leaving only the obverse, less the outer rim. This piece is then epoxied into the shell created out of the first coin. The tolerance is very fine and leaving the rim intact helps hide the seam. If done well, they look pretty darned good. The biggest tell is the sound when it lands on a solid surface (kind of a "clunk" instead of a normal coin "ring"), so catch it in your hand if you flip one.
If you're the machinist, start with a clean workspace and save your shavings. You'll wind up with close to .8 ounce of scrap silver for each prop produced.
It's good to know it's a "real" coin! I remember when I read The Long Halloween, I wanted to buy myself a copy of Harvey's coin - when I searched, I discovered that the year on the coin used in that particular comic was a year in which none of that type of silver dollar had been minted. Impossible!
Anyway, this is promising.
Anyway, this is promising.
tim
Sr Member
Correct. The coin was a Peace dollar (an example of Art Deco gone wrong, IMHO).
As a coin collector, I'd hate to see these dollars destroyed unnecessarily, even if they are rather ugly. What about making castings? This would also ease mass production. The coin featured in the movie had a very rough look with unnatural aging/tarnish in crevices of the design, leading me to believe it was not made from true coins and was rather some sort of sculpt or cast.
Prop Collector
Sr Member
It should be a 1922 silver dollar with two heads.
Corgi may be releasing one eventually; this image popped up earlier this year from the UK Toyfair:
It's not coming from Corgi. It's a DC Direct product that will be distributed by Corgi in the UK... If it's ever made, that is.
Yodajammies
Sr Member
They were the same BEFORE the fire / explosion. That's when the coin was marred.
Thanks for clearing that up. It is an old image, but the only one that suggested they were planning on releasing one.
Yeah, that's what I was guessing too. Back for the old Batman Forever movie, the Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face figure came with a metal coin... (which I have, somewhere). So hopefully the Two-face figure, if it's released, will have the coin as evidence...
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CameraGuyDVX
New Member
i got one of the Batman forever Toy Coins myself .
But would like a little more substance and weight. I do like the sound the fake one makes though.
I was already thinking of starting to cast my own coin but being a newbie at that kind of work i figured i'd do some resarch before i start.
and well yeah interest has already begun.
haha
But would like a little more substance and weight. I do like the sound the fake one makes though.
I was already thinking of starting to cast my own coin but being a newbie at that kind of work i figured i'd do some resarch before i start.
and well yeah interest has already begun.
haha
Prop Collector
Sr Member
I feel pretty safe in saying that there is no chance it will be all metal... Or accurate at all for that matter.
GrenadeKing
Sr Member
I'm not sure how difficult it would be to mold one up and cast it in white metal of some kind. It could be something to toss around. I know some folks here have done larger projects using the same process.
they did pretty good on the joker card, and the scarecrow comes with an actual sewn burlap scarecrow mask, i wouldnt be surprised if the coin is decent.
nickytea
Master Member
It's two headed.
