Stargate help needed

xeno

Sr Member
well as you might know (or not know), I'm building a stargate
http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=108865

and now working with the electronics, I seem to run into a snag
and need the all powerfull knowledge of the RPF to save me :)

what I need is: how does the sequence look like, in wich all 7 chevrons
light up when they dial to a planet.

is it random, or does it follow a destinct patern every dail sequence ..

I made a GIF animation with what I thought looked nice, but it might be
all wrong.

in the animation it starts at the top left (wich is the top of the gate)
and works it's way down, the last two light up when all7 chevrons make
contact.

Xeno

Gate.gif
 
Gate looks Great. :D

The thing to understand about the chevrons is that the bottom two are never used. All gate addresses utilize 7 chevrons: six coordinates in space and the seventh which is the ID of the gate you're dialing from.

So definitely I'd not light up the last two on the bottom. You might have a stand to support the gate which obscures the bottom chevrons anyway, which is how the gate usually appears on the show (either sunk into a platform or clamped from the sides with steps leading up to it, as in the SGC).

There is one and only exception to the 7 chevrons thing, and that is for the spinoff "Atlantis" series they decided that the 8th chevron would light up for travelling to another galaxy. The 9th chevron has never been used on the show.


Now if your gate just sits there and lights up chevrons, you actually have a model of the Gates found on other planets. The gate at Stagate Command on Earth also spins its inner ring (with the glyphs on it), when the last glyph stops at the top chevron, the chevron does a little mechanical in-out maneuver to "lock" into place.

Sometimes when advanced aliens activate the Gate, they just gesture at it and all SEVEN chevrons light up simultaneously with no spinning or entering of coordinates.

As to your question, what order do the chevrons light up,

[EDIT: I popped in the DVD of "Children of the Gods", which is the pilot episode for the series, and according to the monitor screens, the visible chevrons on the SGC gate (ignoring the bottom two) light up in this sequence:

2 o'clock
3 o'clock
5 o'clock

7 o'clock
9 o'clock
10 o'clock

and finally
12 o'clock

COTG also clearly shows the SGC gate chevrons only light up on the FRONT side, the back of the gate remains unlit.



Here's a page on gate technology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_(device)

And the Stargate seen in the movie has some differences as opposed to the series.

* The chevrons in the Stargate film do not glow as they do in the series.
* The top chevron on the film's Stargate is different aesthetically than the rest of its chevrons. In SG-1, all the chevrons on a stargate are visually identical.
* In the film, to "lock" in a stargate symbol, each chevron "pops" or "clamps" the symbol in question to dial it. In SG-1, only the top chevron "pops" when dialing an address, while the other chevrons merely light up and do not clamp.
* The symbols on the film's gate are engraved into the surface of the Stargate. In SG-1's universe, the symbols protrude from the gates' surface.
* In the movie each stargate has a unique set of 39 symbols, but in the series each gate has the same 38 symbols minus a single point of origin symbol that is unique to that individual gate.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_(film)

- k
 
the thing is, it will be a wall mounted Stargate, so no stand
as the gate is too big, and the stand would be massive :)
and there is no back side on it.

I only light up the bottom two, because it would look a bit silly
for these to remain dark.
and as those two chevrons usually are not seen, I'm not certain
if they remain dark or not :)

I remember a sequence where the gate had to be lifted out of
the holders, and flown to space before it blew up, all that time
the gate was active. do you know what season that was ??

your sequence really helps, but could it be possible that it is a
random sequence, and the chevron makes contact when the symbol
is near one.

Xeno
 
Phase, there is one SG-1 episode where the eighth chevron is used. It's the episode where O'neill downloads the ancient library in to his brain and designs the power booster (I guess a primitive ZPM). He uses the booster to dial up the eighth chevron which takes him to the Asgard so they can get all the info out of his head.

I don't recall the ninth chevron ever being used.

-Fred
 
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your sequence really helps, but could it be possible that it is a
random sequence, and the chevron makes contact when the symbol
is near one.

Xeno
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In ten years there's never been an example of a random light up sequence. On both shows it follows the sequence mentioned earlier.

There have been times on both shows where you see a stargate floating in space with an active wormhole or in the process of dialing. The bottom two chevrons were NOT active/lit in any of these instances.
 
I'm with DMD, you'd do well to leave those bottom two unlit. The 8th and 9th chevrons "mean something" to the fans, so it would be "wrong" to simply light them for the sake of symmetry. :)

Gates on other planets are usually embedded in some sort of platform that hides the bottom two chevrons.

gate.jpg



The SGC gate is suspended from the walls by four clamps. Come to think of it, a wall mount for your replica gate in the shape of those four clamps would be pretty cool. Unless you just want it mounted "mysteriously" from behind with hidden hardware.

gate-active.jpg

WSG-SGC-ringclamp.jpg


Here BTW is the display on the dialing computer at the SGC. The bottom two chevrons are displayed but not lit.

dialprog-abydos-COTG.jpg


On other planets the dialing is done on a freestanding pylon located near the gate, which is nicknamed the "Dial Home Device" or DHD.

dhd640.jpg




"The Fifth Race" is the episode where the eighth chevron is lit and O'Neill goes to the Asgard galaxy.

"Redemption" is the one where O'Neill uses the F-302 to fly the Gate out into space where it explodes.



- k
 
as far as the sequnce goes what has been mentioned is correct but if you were to have the ring spinning (not that you would) in SG-1 the symbol to be locked in place is rotated to the 12 o"clock position cheveron lock comes down and the corresponding cheveron in the sequnce lights up, now in the movie the ring moves the specified symbol to the specific cheveron.

Also it is true with whats been said that all nine have never been activated only 8 have been at once, the 9th would have to be used for someting or else whats the purpose of it. Unless in terms with the movie which may have explained if there were more, (yes I heard there doing more) that maybe in their galaxy 8 symbols would be used for much further planets and all 9 would be used to go to a different galaxy. But who honestly knows.
 
The film is a bit different than the series... for instance the Gate is dug up, and once activated, connects to the planet Abydos... and nobody thinks to ask if it might connect to anywhere else. :unsure

The aliens, who enslaved the ancient Egyptians, seem to live now on Abydos under their god, Ra. But they are not referred to as the Goa'uld. In fact you get a brief glimpse of them in their "natural" form, and they sort of look like albino versions of the aliens from the X-files movie. :unsure

So I'm not sure that the Gate as seen in the movie was "meant" to go to other planets. Certainly a lot was invented for the TV series, such as the idea that the slaver aliens are actually those "snakes" that take over a human host, and the idea that Ra was not their sole and ultimate leader, but rather just one of many "System Lords".

As to the Ninth chevron, they've kept it a mystery in the series to date. Who knows if the writers have some master plan up their sleeve for what the final chevron represents. But with every season being possibly their "last", they better have something good planned. :lol

Probably it's a "time travel" or "alternate dimensions" control. :rolleyes


BTW, speaking of odd gate activations, when in the pilot epsiode Children of the Gods, the gate is activated from Abydos and the god Apophis steps through to Earth, the chevrons all light up at once and the inner ring just spins freely until the "kawoosh" forms. :eek


- k
 
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