Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Post-release)

What did you think of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker?


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It was all so completely sterile... had none of the spirit of the original. It might have been an age thing for me, as I was young when TOS was in syndication, and in my late 20s for Next Gen.
How far in did you watch? Over half of TNG's first season was very stilted as everyone tried to find the tone and characters. I don't feel it really got good until "We'll Always Have Paris". DS9 struggled for its first two seasons (with good episodes in there, mind) before it found its legs. Both, I feel, are worth giving another look, if you're up for it. I could even recommend particular episodes if you didn't want to chance it...
 
So by that rationale it's the Palpatine saga, not the Skywalker saga.

Considering how much weight Palpatine is given in the PT (he has the clearest motivation of all the characters in that entire trilogy) to only return for TROS and have Rey be his granddaughter it shifts the focus away from the Skywalkers and makes it the Palpatine saga.
I think it's important to remember, that in a way, it's both. The destinies of the Skywalkers and the Palpatines have been intertwined since the moment Sheev met Anakin.
 
I get that the two are intertwined. It just feels like ultimately the Skywalkers are rendered insignificant by the end of the saga, which was my point.
I don't feel that way at all. If you look how the narrative shifts as the story was developed. At first Luke was the center of attention, which makes sense considering that Star Wars started out as a Flash Gordon-esque campy space adventures of Luke Skywalker and friends. But as it shifted into the family drama, and the prequels came around, the attention is given to Anakin. Luke is kinda second fiddle now. But with the Sequels I feel that the attention is now on the family as whole. But that's just how I see things.
 
Palpy's first name. I guess Disney thought he needed one.
I think he was named prior to the sale to Disney.

Fun fact: In the rough draft of what became the Star Wars we know and love, the name of the character who was the original premise for the Emperor was Cos Dashit.
 
Apparently it was chosen by George?
Was it? I honestly don't know. I just remember after the sale, Palpatine got a first name.

I preferred when he only had the one name. More villainous. Like Zod or Thanos or Ming [the Merciless].
 
I think he was named prior to the sale to Disney.

Fun fact: In the rough draft of what became the Star Wars we know and love, the name of the character who was the original premise for the Emperor was Cos Dashit.
Ah okay. My mistake then.

I guess George* thought he needed one.
 
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Sheev is still an idiotic name.

Consider too that he was given a first name long after the prequels were over so it was wholly unnecessary at that point.
 
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George definitely could come up with some weird and stupid sounding names.
A game Informer from a few years back had a whole story about LucasArts and how it was shut down after Disney. There was one part where ex employees were talking about a canceled Darth Maul game in where they had to name a character and they all had a meeting with George. They said his suggestions for names were so bad that at first they thought he was kidding.....which they realized he wasn't. They ended up just pretending that they never heard those names or something like that.....then it got canceled anyways.
 
George definitely could come up with some weird and stupid sounding names.
A game Informer from a few years back had a whole story about LucasArts and how it was shut down after Disney. There was one part where ex employees were talking about a canceled Darth Maul game in where they had to name a character and they all had a meeting with George. They said his suggestions for names were so bad that at first they thought he was kidding.....which they realized he wasn't. They ended up just pretending that they never heard those names or something like that.....then it got canceled anyways.
I remember that article. I recall they also talked about wanting to make an Indiana Jones game similar to Uncharted. That was something I would've absolutely loved to have happened.
 
Snoke is a pretty terrible name too. I was never a fan of it. I can't help but think of Snooki from that terrible reality TV show. Some of the names in Star Wars are just plain silly. I mean Lav Sivrak? C'mon. Wolf man is better in my opinion. I know a lot of that stuff came from West End Games when creating the role playing games but I much prefer the simplicity in a lot of cases.

Come to think of it, it's interesting that the primary characters in the ST have names with only one syllable. Rey, Finn, Poe, Rose. Snoke. Then Kylo (Ben). I remember when they announced those names shortly before the first teaser trailer for TFA hit, I found it kind of odd. I almost wondered if it was intentional because Han, Luke and Leia were all either one or two syllables. I mean it was likely just me overthinking it, but it did cross my mind that they were might be trying to conjure up some sort of weird familiarity for the fans by doing that.
 
Most of the OT characters people know were named by either West End Games or Decipher in the late '80s to early '90s. I've blown so many people's minds when I gently correct them that Ponda Baba wasn't called that in Star Wars -- not the script, not the call sheet, not the order for the mask... He wasn't named until after the trilogy was over for years. Multiplied out by many. See also, unnamed background players getting EU names hung on them retroactively, like the Falcon's gunner in ROTJ cut footage getting the name of a character created for the West End RPG in about 1987 when the footage was released years later even than that.

Psab keel -- what's your issue with the name Lak Sivrak?
 
It's more the necessity to have a backstory for every single character and species. I know it fleshes out the world and they can build novels and toys around these characters, but I have no interest in lore like that since I was a teenager. It's just personal preference really. I know some fans love that level of involvement.

Lak Sivrak just isn't nearly as cool sounding as Wolf man to me. Again it's just a personal preference.
 
It's more the necessity to have a backstory for every single character and species.

We're looking at you, Constable Zuvio.
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