Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Post-release)
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How anyone can say the ST is better than the PT is beyond me. At least the PT actually relates to the Skywalkers.
Disney completely killed it and the storyline behind it all is horrendous.
I genuinely feel for Lucas. His legacy has been tarnished forever as Disney chose to make Palpatine victorious in the end. And there is no question that's what Disney are saying.
FU Disney and shove it up your ass.
Disney completely killed it and the storyline behind it all is horrendous.
I genuinely feel for Lucas. His legacy has been tarnished forever as Disney chose to make Palpatine victorious in the end. And there is no question that's what Disney are saying.
FU Disney and shove it up your ass.
Why do people insist this is an issue with Disney handling it, rather than it being a debacle of Lucasfilm's making. Yes Disney owns LFL, but the success of another part of their business empire can crank out films like Infinity War and Endgame, it just doubly highlights how badly LFL have performed
Joek3rr
Master Member
I want talk about two of your comments.
First, yeah Rian had Luke cut off from the Force. Because the alternative is having Luke sense Han's death in the Force, and continue to chill out on his island.
Secondly. Luke had an arc in TLJ, he started the film saying he doesn't want anything to do with the Jedi, and he throws away the lightsaber. But by the end of the film he projects himself across the galaxy holding the lightsaber he threw away as he declares "I will not be the last Jedi."
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I didn’t actually end up going again last night. I was good and baked... but drunk... my usual seat for the 11:45 show...
but at 10:00, as I opened my app to buy a ticket I realized, to quote peter griffin, “watching it again feels like a chore”
not good.
course now I’m sober in Starbucks having a coffee thinking “I should go see it again tonight!”
we’ll see if stoner brain agrees tonight when the time comes. Last night stoner brain thought it would be more entertaining to watch Gremlins with Redletter Media commentary.
‘twas.
but at 10:00, as I opened my app to buy a ticket I realized, to quote peter griffin, “watching it again feels like a chore”
not good.
course now I’m sober in Starbucks having a coffee thinking “I should go see it again tonight!”
we’ll see if stoner brain agrees tonight when the time comes. Last night stoner brain thought it would be more entertaining to watch Gremlins with Redletter Media commentary.
‘twas.
kamandi
Sr Member
Up until now this is a true statement. TFA and TLJ are products of JJ, Ryan and the Lucasfilm story group (KK's team). But Disney became concerned after JJ said "This movie will not satify everyone". Bob Iger sees Disney's $4B investment and theme park expansion damaged and personally stepped in. There are several cuts of TROS, one of them Bob Iger actually had creative input during the edit.
This movie had many problems behind the scenes. Too many cooks in the kitchen is just one of those problems.
el toro
Sr Member
On Wired’s YouTube video surveying all of the Star Wars small spacecrafts, Doug Chiang explains Kylo’s ship, the Tie Whisperer which loses its wing in the desert, is different from the Tie Silencer which he pilots in space.
edit. Go to 14:22 mark to see Kylo’s Tie Whisperer, which is different from his Tie Silencer. Both ships look very similar.
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edit. Go to 14:22 mark to see Kylo’s Tie Whisperer, which is different from his Tie Silencer. Both ships look very similar.
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That still backs up my point though. If someone as high up as Iger is being briefed on such things, and then getting involved, it shows that Lucasfilm management has failed completely at their job, and done so to an extent that it invited scrutiny from those who really don't want to be using their time to do so.
That then is a recipe for people to then stick their noses in for a variety of reasons, with not all of them doing so with anything but the good of the franchise at the top of their agenda.
Lucasfilm needs to take a hard look at its structure and whether they are pulling in the same direction, or (as it seems right now) a collective of individuals that are roughly going in the general direction of each other. That needs to come from the top of Lucasfilm down.
kamandi
Sr Member
The buzz has been Kevin Feige has been tasked to take over from Kathleen Kennedy to right the ship. Jon Favreau might have a role as well.
Heads start rolling soon. Kathleen Kennedy will be announced as out sometime in the first quarter 2020. Bad Robot's contract with Disney is over and you can bank JJ's production company will not be invited back. Ryan Johnson's trilogy is not happening and he can drop the act, it's not fooling anyone.
Heads start rolling soon. Kathleen Kennedy will be announced as out sometime in the first quarter 2020. Bad Robot's contract with Disney is over and you can bank JJ's production company will not be invited back. Ryan Johnson's trilogy is not happening and he can drop the act, it's not fooling anyone.
Mr Webber
Master Member
There`s only one person at Lucasfilm that has had the final say on this trilogy and guided its entire direction or lack there of. No one can fire or challenge that persons poor decision making at Lucasfilm. Disney owns Lucasfilm 100% and have sat back and allowed the disaster of the last two years to play out. Until recently that is. Iger has come out and publicly stated that he has taken over creative control of The Mandalorian and watches each episode at least three times before giving the go ahead. Quoting a one time long dead Emperor "Fools, only now at the end do they understand".
sztriki
Sr Member
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This same exact predictions were going on after TLJ and around Solo and its box office returns and KK was extended so I’m not holding my breath.
2018 wants their news back...
This same exact predictions were going on after TLJ and around Solo and its box office returns and KK was extended so I’m not holding my breath.
INDY
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Maybe it because l have lived through the prequels and felt let down by those. This last trilogy did not bother me as much.There are things that I have loved about and things that I did not like about every Star Wars movie. Some of the books that came out telling stories about post ROTJ events I thought there were very good and why they didn’t just take those and make them into the latest trilogy is beyond me. Aren’t most good movies started out as books anyways? They should have embraced those stories instead of saying they were not canon. All the material they needed was already written for them. I mean I think having a clone emperor, Leia’s twins and Grand Adimral Thrawn would have great to see in the big screen.
I love the basic premise of the Thrawn Trilogy where it's post Jedi victory and the struggle is to reestablish a new government in the power vacuum left with the Emperor's death. Only had they changed the time line from 5 years after the battle of Endor to 30 years after (to account for the OT cast ages) and have them be secondary to the new characters eventually fading them out of the story. An outside force threatens the fragile peace and the OT cast is trying to find a diplomatic solution after been wary of another war. When they have no choice but to fight they send out the new generation of freedom fighters to the front lines. Then the focus of the story shifts from the OT cast to the new cast by Ep. 7 end.
INDY
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When the trilogy was first announced, I thought for sure it was going to be about Han and Leia’s children grown up after being trained by Luke. I forgot the names of the kids. Have the boy fall to the dark side and his sister be on the light side. You could still have the woman lead like the wanted. The boy would start to rebuild the empire and even go to an old cloning facility to create a clone emperor to help him complete his training towards the dark side.
firesprite
Master Member
Not really... not if the good is basically being off-set by bad.
Like... if RT had some sort of axe to grind, or wanted to boost it, 86% is kind of a weird sticking spot.
Mr Webber
Master Member
Yeah, thats the exact same number TFA ended up on. LOL
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