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:lol I'm glad I avoid prequel-inspired Star Wars (their version of Anakin, Palpatine's backstory as a rural senator, etc) because the stuff you guys are discussing sounds ridiculous!
 
:lol I'm glad I avoid prequel-inspired Star Wars (their version of Anakin, Palpatine's backstory as a rural senator, etc) because the stuff you guys are discussing sounds ridiculous!

The Prequels & The Clone Wars are carefully packaged and put away to the attic of my mind stored as a sub-standard Star Wars

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I've never gotten the appeal of TCW but bringing back Darth Maul was the last nail in the coffin for me. Fan service plain and simple and the ridiculous manner in which it was done wasn't any better. Sure Filoni did an admirable job coming up with some convoluted manner of handling the seemingly impossible task of bringing back someone who couldn't possibly have survived but that doesn't make it good in my book.
 
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I know. It sounded ridiculous. But they planted the seeds with savage opress. So it didn't come out of nowhere. That certainly softened the absurdity of it all
 
Well, yeah. That was Katie's intention when she introduced the character. But rather than Maul being a random Zabrak that Palpatine found and trained and took a Sith name and Sith tattoos... Now they're tied to a colony of Zabraks that is for some reason on Dathomir and the previously-wholly-unrelated Nightsisters keep them as slaves/breeding stock/experimental subjects. She also tied Ventress to the Nightsisters, for no real reason and in contradiction of the actual thought that went into her background in the Clone Wars microseries and the comics. I have no problem with Maul having a brother. I have a massive problem with how it was all handled, and bringing Maul back, himself.

--Jonah
 
I agree with you guys, I hated the whole Dathomir/Maul's alive story. I liked them keeping Dathomir and the nightsisters, just not how they intertwined it with Darth Maul. I always thought Maul was one of a kind who was recruited as a baby by Sidious and then tattooed himself as a Sith. I didn't think Sidious picked him out like picking out a puppy from a breeder...
 
Also, I would have preferred the Nightsisters be depicted a bit more like in The Courtship of Princess Leia -- as one of my friends summed it up, "rancor-riding battle-babes". Not... ninja witch Draculas, or whatever the hell.

--Jonah
 
Wow! I'm guessing that you guys have a lot more experience with the EU than I do. I have none. I was always one of those "the films are all that matter" people.

It took a lot to get me to try the clone wars. So to me, that's the story.

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Well, I fell in love with Star Wars at a very young age. With three years between films, and then no more films, and between/after I was ravenous for more content. I even think the underlying story of the Holiday special works, even if the execution was awful, and would love to see Dave Filoni revisit it in animated form. I read one copy of Han Solo at Stars' End to death and had to replace it. Splinter of the Mind's Eye was utterly engrossing (despite the climax that didn't work vis a vis ESB). Marvel's comics were a bit like the Clone Wars is for me -- some really good stories and elements mixed in among a lot of stuff I could take or leave (often preferably leave). Then in the late '80s and early '90s, I had the role-playing game. And for all the stuff West End Games screwed up or I really tried to ignore, they also introduced some really, really cool ideas and designs.

So I was one of the ones primed for the "Star Wars Renaissance" of the early-to-mid '90s, but also one of those who felt Dark Empire and Heir to the Empire didn't quite capture... "it". Some good bits, yeah, but more "Iiiiiiii don't know about that..." squinty-eyes moments than I had with anything but the old comics (Marvel and newspaper). But then the Tales of the Jedi comics started and more than made up for it.

Yeah, I've been following the EU for the entire duration, and am better-versed than many in what worked and what didn't -- the stuff I'm glad is jettisoned, and the stuff I hope makes it [back] into canon.

--Jonah
 
Bringing cyborg-Maul back made for a nice Infinities story, but I found it absurd for canon. Plus a brother named Savage Opress. Plus the whole Nightbrother thing.
I did not mind that they spun the Infinities story, but what I don't like is that they made Maul's back story so weak.

I am also against making having tattoos some kind of Sith-thing or Dathomir thing. His race is Zabrak and all Zabrak seen in the Star Wars prequels had elaborate tattoos. Sure, they could reflect on his personality, but that's it. Tattoos isn't a Sith-thing!

Plus tying Ventress to the Nightsisters.
Yes. She already had a plausible back story... that they just threw away.
 
https://instagram.com/p/65PhxOs_RH/
Teaser for the new trailer.

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New music - or something re-purposed from the prequels? Not sure but it sounds new to me.
 
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