Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)

[hansicle]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Who knows, maybe without confirmation any of the original cast was going to be involved, in the original script, their roles were merely supporting , with new characters playing a more prominent parts. After getting the original actors on board, they wanted them to play bigger parts and be more of the focus...so they had to rewrite the script.

 

[Laspector]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Can you imagine the midichlorian-altering drugs that must run rampant in their sports teams?

Really. I wonder if you could transplant the Force into someone via midichlorians?

 

[Pwrsrce]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

What I'm curious about is the "inside story" of what is going on with the script behind the scenes...I've read some reports that this decision to change was made back in the summer...Possibly July...If true, then that means they have already had a good three months to rework/rewrite to whatever extent they are doing that. And I bet the change was necessary to secure Harrison Ford.

Personally I love the change. Kasdan is absolutely the right guy to work on this...And I am an unapologetic Abrams fan as well. He gets a lot of crap for how LOST ended, but he was only really instrumental in the day to day of that at the beginning. I have never been much of a Trek guy, (TWOK as the exception), but really loved the new films that he's directed.

To have an Abrams directed Star Wars, shot on film, with big practical sets, that was at least partially written by Lawrence Kasdan...The thought of that is pretty exciting!

Now for the LOVE OF GOD...Give us some casting news!

Jason

 

[cboath]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

That may very well be an important plot point in the new trilogy. It's no laughing matter!

I can see it now, a new multi-system corporation has risen since the death of the empire, Ever Vitalis, Inc, Ltd, and unbeknownst to the rest of the galaxy have secretly been trying to create an army of Mind Control Dark Jedi by running blood doping experiments with midichlorians after finding documentation that they give force power in the ruins of the jedi temple.

Unable to compete against this terrifying army, our heroes reach out to the future and gain the help of the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Avengers to help defeat this 'EVIL'.

A Disney Multi-property Extravaganza starting Summer 2015.

 

[Yodamann]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Really. I wonder if you could transplant the Force into someone via midichlorians?

Not according to canon. General Grievous was given a transfusion of Sifo-Dyas's blood after his "accident," and he gained no Force sensitivity.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Really. I wonder if you could transplant the Force into someone via midichlorians?

Doesn't work. If it did work everyone would have a count as high as Anakin.

 

[Beechy McFly]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Some interesting news about Harrison Ford, Indiana Jones and Star Wars 7::

Rumor: Indiana Jones Is the Key to Han Solo?s Return? - IGN

 

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Meh. I won't miss Han if he doesn't show up. And Indy is a trilogy.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I wonder if Ford will be pushing for Han to die in the new one like he was for RoTJ?

I can imagine he wants another go as Indy. He probably feels a bit cheated since the movie was a bit of a disappointment due to reasons beyond his control (I thought he did an excellent job). I'm sure he wants a chance to cap off the series with an awesome Shia-less adventure.

 

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I wonder if Ford will be pushing for Han to die in the new one like he was for RoTJ?

I can imagine he wants another go as Indy. He probably feels a bit cheated since the movie was a bit of a disappointment due to reasons beyond his control (I thought he did an excellent job). I'm sure he wants a chance to cap off the series with an awesome Shia-less adventure.

He did. It was called "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade."


I mean, honestly, while I fully expect to see the "Trinity" in the new films (or is that "Quadrinity" if you include Chewie?), I still think it's (A) unnecessary from a story-telling perspective, and (B) ill-adivsed, again, from a story-telling perspective. Not to mention (C) uninteresting to me. I'm done with those characters. They lived happily ever after. Do we really need to see them in their twilight years?


I don't know where this impulse comes from, but it seems like people are never content with a story having an end. Or at least with stories about a given character or group of characters having an end.


More is not always better. More is, in fact, more often than not worse.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

He did. It was called "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade."

Good point!

I totally agree. I really think the only character that should make a comeback would be Luke. I'd like to see him in the Obi-Wan role of passing on his wisdom and knowledge of the force on to the next generation of Jedi before "retiring" and I would expect to see him on screen about as much as we saw Obi Wan in the original trilogy, leaving the rest to focus on the characters.

I'm more worried about the spin-offs that are in planning. I fear that too many movies will dilute what to me makes the movies special. I feel like seeing the Han or Boba back story will ruin the characters a bit since (again to me) what made them interesting was the mystery behind them. But I suppose everyone wants a piece of the Star Wars money cake and thats really what it comes down to.

 

[Riceball]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Good point!

I totally agree. I really think the only character that should make a comeback would be Luke. I'd like to see him in the Obi-Wan role of passing on his wisdom and knowledge of the force on to the next generation of Jedi before "retiring" and I would expect to see him on screen about as much as we saw Obi Wan in the original trilogy, leaving the rest to focus on the characters.

I'm more worried about the spin-offs that are in planning. I fear that too many movies will dilute what to me makes the movies special. I feel like seeing the Han or Boba back story will ruin the characters a bit since (again to me) what made them interesting was the mystery behind them. But I suppose everyone wants a piece of the Star Wars money cake and thats really what it comes down to.

I'm not so worried about backstory ruining a character because of the mystery, I'm more worried about creating backstories for characters that really don't need a backstory or would necessarily have any cool backstory to tell. Yoda & Jabba are two characters that I feel don't rate a stand alone movie or story of any sort, not because I don't like them or think that more about them would ruin them but that there's nothing that interesting about the characters to base 2 hour movie on, they served a specific role in the movies and we don't really need to know any more about them outside that of that.

 

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I'm not so worried about backstory ruining a character because of the mystery, I'm more worried about creating backstories for characters that really don't need a backstory or would necessarily have any cool backstory to tell. Yoda & Jabba are two characters that I feel don't rate a stand alone movie or story of any sort, not because I don't like them or think that more about them would ruin them but that there's nothing that interesting about the characters to base 2 hour movie on, they served a specific role in the movies and we don't really need to know any more about them outside that of that.

The people who invented a backstory and name for Ice Cream Maker Guy disagree with you.

Seriously, though, I think telling side-stories about existing characters is kinda silly. We know what we need to know. I'd rather they do side stories about NEW characters and tell NEW stories. Didn't we learn anything from the prequels about backstories? They're usually boring and poorly done.

 

[The Terminator]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I have a very vivd image in my mind of JJ going around to the folks at Disney telling them: I'm putting the band back together :cool We're on a mission from God

:lol
Sounds better and better all the time

I wonder if Ford will be pushing for Han to die in the new one like he was for RoTJ?

Check this:

Some interesting news about Harrison Ford, Indiana Jones and Star Wars 7::

Rumor: Indiana Jones Is the Key to Han Solo?s Return? - IGN

 

[crystaloftruth]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

If I was going to kill off a character and use them as a force ghost I would choose Luke, he'd make a cool mysterious wise man. There is no reason Han would come back that way, he's not a Jedi (force attuned doesn't count, that EU stuff is just methadone for us addicts. I don't care if it's 'canon' it's not Star Wars). I want Han alive and well and going on adventures in the Falcon. That for me is what Star Wars is... the Falcon is the heart of it.

 

[Darth Lars]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

'Star Wars Episode VII': Disney CEO Bob Iger's Firm 2015 Date Leaves Team Scrambling

Rumours. Script is far from ready. Kennedy would have asked Disney for a later release date but was denied.

 

[cboath]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

'Star Wars Episode VII': Disney CEO Bob Iger's Firm 2015 Date Leaves Team Scrambling

Rumours. Script is far from ready. Kennedy would have asked Disney for a later release date but was denied.

Honestly, i think it's just speculation because they've done a helluva job keeping things in-house and not having any leaks. If you can get any info, it must surely be because they're not getting anywhere - not because they know how to keep a secret.

 

[rodneyfaile]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I really think the only character that should make a comeback would be Luke. I'd like to see him in the Obi-Wan role of passing on his wisdom and knowledge of the force on to the next generation of Jedi before "retiring" and I would expect to see him on screen about as much as we saw Obi Wan in the original trilogy, leaving the rest to focus on the characters.

I agree. I think the next generation should take over very quickly. I can't imagine having Ford in all three films, unless it's just a quick cameo similar to Nimoy in the new Trek.

 

[hansicle]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

If they started pre production, I hope they don't start cobbling something together with the backgrounds, ships, and environments they've already developed for the first script to save time.

 

[cboath]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I agree. I think the next generation should take over very quickly. I can't imagine having Ford in all three films, unless it's just a quick cameo similar to Nimoy in the new Trek.

Assuming all 3 return you'll have to devote time to

R2/3PO
Luke
Leia
Han
New People
Bad guys
etc.

A prominent role would have one guy featured in around 40 minutes of a 2 hour movie. Not what i'd call a huge chunk of time. What was Ford's screen time in ROTJ? Can't imagine it was much more than 40, if that.

That said, not saying they should go one way or the other, mind you, just saying that the character having a sizable role doesn't equate to tons of screen time either. So either was is possible.

I don't think new characters have to take over quickly either - don't think it's necessarily a requirement for E7. Has to happen by 9 though.

Your original characters are going to have kids in the 20ish years old range. Not enough to trust your kids in general, and especially not after the lack of trust everyone had through the imperial years. With the OT crew in charge of things now (or so you'd think) - i think that's a part of the aspect of this series. How do you entrust everything you've fought for to those who never knew the other side?

There was a side of the rebellion running the show so to speak. It wasn't Leia (or luke or han for that matter). In the OT we saw the 20 somethings fighting the battle and pretty much nothing of those orchestrating it. This time I believe we'll see both. Which would enable large roles on both sides of the spectrum.

I can also see a Leia as chancellor or whatever and the the fact she's got force ability get out and have scare the ever loving crap out of everyone after the last force capable person sat in that chair