Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)
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Edwardowan
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
at least one builder from the R2 Builder's club is there to help promote it so we may know some more details this weekend perhaps...
at least one builder from the R2 Builder's club is there to help promote it so we may know some more details this weekend perhaps...
Lutso
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Heck no, we'd rather talk about the looks and mannerisms of aging celebrities that may or may not be in the movie.
Heck no, we'd rather talk about the looks and mannerisms of aging celebrities that may or may not be in the movie.
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
From D23
EricVespe: "let's start by welcoming Lucasfilm to the Disney family." - Alan Horn
EricVespe: Confirmed Episode 7 for Summer 2015. Also confirmed Larry Kasdan and Simon Kinsberg spin-off movies.
EricVespe: "I wish I could tell you more..." then Imperial March music starts, "but there are dark forces and they are watching." - Alan Horn
devincf: Alan Horn pretends like he's going to announce STAR WARS stuff. Imperial March plays audience groans. WHERE'S THE INFO, DISNEY?
EricVespe: Audience booed Horn when he moved on from Star Wars without announcing anything of note.
devincf: How are they not even announcing the title of EPISODE VII? Why isn't JJ on stage right now? So lame.
EricVespe: Kevin Feige now onstage, so hopefully we'll get some good Marvel stuff in lieu of Star Wars news
ErikDavis: I still feel Disney is going to make a STAR WARS announcement. I can't understand why they wouldn't say a thing except that it's happening
From D23
EricVespe: "let's start by welcoming Lucasfilm to the Disney family." - Alan Horn
EricVespe: Confirmed Episode 7 for Summer 2015. Also confirmed Larry Kasdan and Simon Kinsberg spin-off movies.
EricVespe: "I wish I could tell you more..." then Imperial March music starts, "but there are dark forces and they are watching." - Alan Horn
devincf: Alan Horn pretends like he's going to announce STAR WARS stuff. Imperial March plays audience groans. WHERE'S THE INFO, DISNEY?
EricVespe: Audience booed Horn when he moved on from Star Wars without announcing anything of note.
devincf: How are they not even announcing the title of EPISODE VII? Why isn't JJ on stage right now? So lame.
EricVespe: Kevin Feige now onstage, so hopefully we'll get some good Marvel stuff in lieu of Star Wars news
ErikDavis: I still feel Disney is going to make a STAR WARS announcement. I can't understand why they wouldn't say a thing except that it's happening
Edwardowan
Sr Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I really wish they would give us specific character details (and confirm the specific ones they are doing first i.e. Han, Yoda, what have you) on these spinoff movies... I'm actually more interested in those than 7,8 &9
I really wish they would give us specific character details (and confirm the specific ones they are doing first i.e. Han, Yoda, what have you) on these spinoff movies... I'm actually more interested in those than 7,8 &9
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
C'mon ice cream maker guy spinoff!
I really wish they would give us specific character details (and confirm the specific ones they are doing first i.e. Han, Yoda, what have you) on these spinoff movies... I'm actually more interested in those than 7,8 &9
C'mon ice cream maker guy spinoff!
Edwardowan
Sr Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
LOL! Adventure has a new name! Salacious Crumb and the Pit of Carkoon!
LOL! Adventure has a new name! Salacious Crumb and the Pit of Carkoon!
Zombie_61
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I hope Disney remains as silent as possible about Episode VII until after it hits the theaters. With the amount of information on the 'Net these days, most of which is untrue anyway, it would be refreshing to go back to the days of walking into a theater knowing nothing more about a movie than what is shown in the trailers.
I hope Disney remains as silent as possible about Episode VII until after it hits the theaters. With the amount of information on the 'Net these days, most of which is untrue anyway, it would be refreshing to go back to the days of walking into a theater knowing nothing more about a movie than what is shown in the trailers.
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I agree. I'm sure we'll be hit over the head hard with their marketing campaign as it gets close to release. If they can somehow control how much info is put out before then, it won't seem like we've been overexposed to the movie before it even hits theatres. I don't want to be sick of hearing about it before it even comes out.
I agree. I'm sure we'll be hit over the head hard with their marketing campaign as it gets close to release. If they can somehow control how much info is put out before then, it won't seem like we've been overexposed to the movie before it even hits theatres. I don't want to be sick of hearing about it before it even comes out.
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I guess you could say JJ was partially successful keeping Cumberbatch's role in STID secret. I can't say I knew for sure, only highly suspected, as did others.
I want an absolutely HUGE marketing campaign! Even as disappointed as I was with the prequels, the hype leading up was extremely fun, especially in 1999 before the Phantom Menace. Sign me up for souvenir glasses, a few t-shirts, and Toys-R-Us opening at midnight. I hope Weird Al does another parody. I don't think I could be overexposed to SW. Disney could have a 24-hour SW channel and I would be great with that.
I guess you could say JJ was partially successful keeping Cumberbatch's role in STID secret. I can't say I knew for sure, only highly suspected, as did others.
I want an absolutely HUGE marketing campaign! Even as disappointed as I was with the prequels, the hype leading up was extremely fun, especially in 1999 before the Phantom Menace. Sign me up for souvenir glasses, a few t-shirts, and Toys-R-Us opening at midnight. I hope Weird Al does another parody. I don't think I could be overexposed to SW. Disney could have a 24-hour SW channel and I would be great with that.
Solo4114
Master Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I dunno, man. I think the hype actually contributed to the disappointment. The problem with hype is that you have to live up to it.
As for why they aren't being more forthcoming, perhaps it's because they want to keep this largely a secret, rather than have a pre-release media blitz over which fans will obsess, criticize, and then get turned off. Maybe, unlike LucasFilm of old, they DON'T want to assume that their job is done as soon as they slap the Star Wars logo on the product and they actually want to put out a quality product instead.
I dunno, man. I think the hype actually contributed to the disappointment. The problem with hype is that you have to live up to it.
As for why they aren't being more forthcoming, perhaps it's because they want to keep this largely a secret, rather than have a pre-release media blitz over which fans will obsess, criticize, and then get turned off. Maybe, unlike LucasFilm of old, they DON'T want to assume that their job is done as soon as they slap the Star Wars logo on the product and they actually want to put out a quality product instead.
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
If you don't think you can do a thing, then you probably wont. I say swing for the fences JJ!
If you don't think you can do a thing, then you probably wont. I say swing for the fences JJ!
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I think for people who grew up with the OT 99% of the disappointment is because it wasn't what they had imagined. The other 1% was Jar Jar, bad dialogue, etc.
I also thought the buildup was fun. I want to see sneak peaks of characters, locations, etc. I just don't want plot details.
I think for people who grew up with the OT 99% of the disappointment is because it wasn't what they had imagined. The other 1% was Jar Jar, bad dialogue, etc.
I also thought the buildup was fun. I want to see sneak peaks of characters, locations, etc. I just don't want plot details.
Solo4114
Master Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Trust me, that wasn't it. If the movies had been "eh...ok" but not stellar, I don't think people would have railed against it. I think it was simply that they weren't good movies at all. They had some cool visuals...and that was about it. The individual films themselves were mediocre at best, atrocious at worst. The trilogy as a whole is at times incoherent, and at others simply boring. They just aren't good films.
However, if you think failing to meet fans' expectations is what kills a film, perhaps you may want to reconsider the "hype is fun!" notion. Unless you can actually deliver on the hype, don't go overselling your movie just to gin up opening weekend profits in the hopes that you don't lose more than 50% by week 2.
Trust me, that wasn't it. If the movies had been "eh...ok" but not stellar, I don't think people would have railed against it. I think it was simply that they weren't good movies at all. They had some cool visuals...and that was about it. The individual films themselves were mediocre at best, atrocious at worst. The trilogy as a whole is at times incoherent, and at others simply boring. They just aren't good films.
However, if you think failing to meet fans' expectations is what kills a film, perhaps you may want to reconsider the "hype is fun!" notion. Unless you can actually deliver on the hype, don't go overselling your movie just to gin up opening weekend profits in the hopes that you don't lose more than 50% by week 2.
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
The PT couldn't help but disappoint. So much was expected of it from fans who forgot that the first film was just about a couple of kids on an adventure. They promised big, big was expected, and big they got... All while losing the heart of what made Star Wars great.
I think some of the expectations have now been adjusted and this next film will be better for it. I'm looking forward to Ep. 7 more than any film I've looked forward to in a long time.
The PT couldn't help but disappoint. So much was expected of it from fans who forgot that the first film was just about a couple of kids on an adventure. They promised big, big was expected, and big they got... All while losing the heart of what made Star Wars great.
I think some of the expectations have now been adjusted and this next film will be better for it. I'm looking forward to Ep. 7 more than any film I've looked forward to in a long time.
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I felt that the 3 movies should have been written together instead of 1 at a time. I felt they really didn't fit well with the OT. I don't think the premise of the movies were all that bad, but I really think Lucas should have drafted an outline for the 3 movies, and handed it off to a writer to flesh it out.
I felt that the 3 movies should have been written together instead of 1 at a time. I felt they really didn't fit well with the OT. I don't think the premise of the movies were all that bad, but I really think Lucas should have drafted an outline for the 3 movies, and handed it off to a writer to flesh it out.
Solo4114
Master Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
The pre-release hype was fairly intense, as I recall. Once TPM came out, though, it caught people by surprise not merely because it wasn't that good, but also because it felt like a serious tonal shift from the OT. And it was. I mean, if you watch ROTJ and TPM back to back, you can see tonal connections, but TPM takes all the worst elements of ROTJ and dials them up to 11, while retaining only a smidgen of the best elements.
But here's the thing: once TPM was out, once fans had time to digest it and get over the initial shock, why then do they also strongly dislike AOTC and only grudgingly tolerate ROTS? I don't think you can claim "Oh, it didn't meet expectations" at that point. If anything, I felt like AOTC and ROTS were major steps up from TPM. So, if anything, I SHOULD have liked them a lot more. And, if I think back to it, I did like AOTC a LOT more than TPM (although there was nowhere to go but up...). With ROTS, though, it was this bittersweet end where it just didn't do what I'd hoped it'd do...but I was already prepared for that, given the previous two films.
My point here is that it's not JUST about expectations. One's expectations can fade over time, and one can appreciate what one got instead. Yet my disdain for the PT has actually only intensified the FURTHER I got from the original theatrical releases. Some of that is the wasted potential, but most of it is just evaluating the films for what they are, and finding them...wanting.
If anything, I'd say that, at least in my case, I was more forgiving of the films when they first came out because I WANTED them to meet my expectations, than I was bitter that they didn't. I really wanted to love these films, but no matter how many times I tried re-watching them, I just...couldn't get into them. They aren't Star Wars to me. They're some other franchise with the same logo and character names. I walked out of even TPM sort of....stunned. Not quite comprehending what had happened, but trying to figure out a way to think that it didn't suck. It was only over time that I grew to loathe the film. AOTC left me pumped after the cool action sequences, but ultimately wishing we could've seen more of the Clone Wars. I'd hoped we would by the time we got to Episode III. ROTS I left just sighing, like that moment when you recognize a relationship is over...and you can't even muster the energy to feel anything other than "God, what a waste..." That wasn't really about failure to meet expectations generated by hype. It was more that such a once-strong series had frittered away its good name.
The three films don't really fit. The second two kinda do, but it feels like they're missing a chapter in between them. The first film is its own thing and seems to be completely superfluous. I've long believed that you could sum up the events of the first film in about 20 min of dialogue spread throughout the two subsequent films. All else is fluff and garbage.
The pre-release hype was fairly intense, as I recall. Once TPM came out, though, it caught people by surprise not merely because it wasn't that good, but also because it felt like a serious tonal shift from the OT. And it was. I mean, if you watch ROTJ and TPM back to back, you can see tonal connections, but TPM takes all the worst elements of ROTJ and dials them up to 11, while retaining only a smidgen of the best elements.
But here's the thing: once TPM was out, once fans had time to digest it and get over the initial shock, why then do they also strongly dislike AOTC and only grudgingly tolerate ROTS? I don't think you can claim "Oh, it didn't meet expectations" at that point. If anything, I felt like AOTC and ROTS were major steps up from TPM. So, if anything, I SHOULD have liked them a lot more. And, if I think back to it, I did like AOTC a LOT more than TPM (although there was nowhere to go but up...). With ROTS, though, it was this bittersweet end where it just didn't do what I'd hoped it'd do...but I was already prepared for that, given the previous two films.
My point here is that it's not JUST about expectations. One's expectations can fade over time, and one can appreciate what one got instead. Yet my disdain for the PT has actually only intensified the FURTHER I got from the original theatrical releases. Some of that is the wasted potential, but most of it is just evaluating the films for what they are, and finding them...wanting.
If anything, I'd say that, at least in my case, I was more forgiving of the films when they first came out because I WANTED them to meet my expectations, than I was bitter that they didn't. I really wanted to love these films, but no matter how many times I tried re-watching them, I just...couldn't get into them. They aren't Star Wars to me. They're some other franchise with the same logo and character names. I walked out of even TPM sort of....stunned. Not quite comprehending what had happened, but trying to figure out a way to think that it didn't suck. It was only over time that I grew to loathe the film. AOTC left me pumped after the cool action sequences, but ultimately wishing we could've seen more of the Clone Wars. I'd hoped we would by the time we got to Episode III. ROTS I left just sighing, like that moment when you recognize a relationship is over...and you can't even muster the energy to feel anything other than "God, what a waste..." That wasn't really about failure to meet expectations generated by hype. It was more that such a once-strong series had frittered away its good name.
The three films don't really fit. The second two kinda do, but it feels like they're missing a chapter in between them. The first film is its own thing and seems to be completely superfluous. I've long believed that you could sum up the events of the first film in about 20 min of dialogue spread throughout the two subsequent films. All else is fluff and garbage.
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