STAR WARS Rebels new animated series!

[DSTORY]

Please, enjoy calling me a "troll" if that makes you fell better. Lemmings are a fickle bunch to say the least.

I have invested in Lucasfilm far more than you can imagine and before you could spell the smell coming from you diaper. Who cares? (you I guess)

All that is a fact is that Disney had placed the "ideas" and nomenclature to ensure that SW is theirs now. It's a corporate move and strategy that I don't expect you to understand at all. (That's obvious enough in your replies.)

My comments do provide plenty to the discussion, you just don't like them or what they imply. Disneys Rebels is a fine show in itself. It's not Star Wars. It's Disney.

I do apologize to all here who think "Rebels" is the next best thing to a pink Boba Fett. It IS a good show, no doubt. And that is NOT sarcasm. It's just a DISNEY show. And if you can't understand that then my condolences.

Troll. LOL.

Name calling is the last refuge of those who cannot logically disprove an opposing point of view.

 

[jcoffman99]

Stop calling them laser swords!!!!!

 

[gizmo]

Please, enjoy calling me a "troll" if that makes you fell better. Lemmings are a fickle bunch to say the least.

I have invested in Lucasfilm far more than you can imagine and before you could spell the smell coming from you diaper. Who cares? (you I guess)

All that is a fact is that Disney had placed the "ideas" and nomenclature to ensure that SW is theirs now. It's a corporate move and strategy that I don't expect you to understand at all. (That's obvious enough in your replies.)

My comments do provide plenty to the discussion, you just don't like them or what they imply. Disneys Rebels is a fine show in itself. It's not Star Wars. It's Disney.

I do apologize to all here who think "Rebels" is the next best thing to a pink Boba Fett. It IS a good show, no doubt. And that is NOT sarcasm. It's just a DISNEY show. And if you can't understand that then my condolences.

Troll. LOL.

Name calling is the last refuge of those who cannot logically disprove an opposing point of view.

You sir are not a troll, you are a tool!!!


Ben

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

Staying out of that whole mess. To me it's more Star Wars than Disney, though I do acknowledge a couple nods tossed into the pilot toward the company that now owns Lucasfilm (but does not write the stories).

Throwing the flag on that one. GL may have made creative choices some people, myself included didn't care for, but Katie wrote some cracker jack CW episodes, even if you didn't like that show. IT IS STAR WARS.

Having every female Dark Side Force-user in the Star Wars Universe be either a Dathomiri Nightsister or an exiled Dathomiri Nightsister* is, to me, the height of laziness. Darth Maul coming back from being cut in half and falling hundreds of feet was a fun "what-if" comic book story, but doesn't belong in canon. And "Savage Opress"? Really? Having to endure "Darth Maul" and "Darth Sidious" in the Prequels was bad enough. That's just awful. And Katie saying "writing science fiction stories is hard" in interviews makes me just want to bang my head against things. Dooku going to the Nightsisters to hire assassins? Fine. Maul having a brother who didn't know about his vanished brother becoming a Sith acolyte? Awesome. Ventress being on the outs with the Sith Lord who recruited her? Excellent. Maul's brother deciding to take over the Death Watch? Cool story idea. The way it was executed? Downright feeble. The fact that it's canon? Depressing.

[*I'm referring here to the Witch of Endor from the Ewok TV movie. She's been retconned, too.]

Overall, I liked the Clone Wars. A lot of good character and universe development (even if I am old-school enough to still be grumpy about the alterations to the timeline in the Prequel era that George made when making them). I even came to like Ahsoka. I have difficulties with some of the Boba Fett/Slave I story developments, but overall was okay with them. I would have been okay with George's Father/Son/Daughter story arc if that were just one world's interpretation of how the Force works, but George saying that is how the Force works -- that the Light Side is the true aspect of the Force and the Dark Side is just an aberration that needs to be corrected -- completely misses the dualism that he used to know about back during the Original Trilogy. And Katie's episodes...

The short definition of my life could be an appreciation for good stories well-told. Hers just aren't. I know Star Wars is capable of better because it's given us better. So that's what I meant by that comment.

--Jonah

 

[Lutso]

A "street rat" who is to become a savior, a hero? Is this Aladdin or Star Wars.
Disney defiles Star Wars, trying to make it their own.
Sadder than jedi everywhere, sadder than bringing back Vader for their new movie to make ticket sales.
What has Lucas done.......?

Like irony, invective is a rhetorical strategy often employed by satirists. Invective is a kind of direct attack, mocking a target without any of irony's subtlety.
Hyperbole: exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
Is that enough? You missed the mark by, shall we dare say, "light years"?
Funny enough. You love what Disney has done, there's nothing I nor anyone can say otherwise. Hazzaah to you. Please enjoy the show. Really, I mean that.
The facts speak for themselves. I apologize to all who eat this up without care.

Yes, I too did laugh, but for all too many other reasons.
You have mistaken my comments. Current and future fans of the "franchise" see it in a way no others can and to them I give hope for a long and fruitful "evolution".
Putting a Disney "spin" on a classic is just, well, distasteful.
People who rode horses hated the new invention called the "automobile".

Please, enjoy calling me a "troll" if that makes you fell better. Lemmings are a fickle bunch to say the least.
I have invested in Lucasfilm far more than you can imagine and before you could spell the smell coming from you diaper. Who cares? (you I guess)
All that is a fact is that Disney had placed the "ideas" and nomenclature to ensure that SW is theirs now. It's a corporate move and strategy that I don't expect you to understand at all. (That's obvious enough in your replies.)
My comments do provide plenty to the discussion, you just don't like them or what they imply. Disneys Rebels is a fine show in itself. It's not Star Wars. It's Disney.
I do apologize to all here who think "Rebels" is the next best thing to a pink Boba Fett. It IS a good show, no doubt. And that is NOT sarcasm. It's just a DISNEY show. And if you can't understand that then my condolences.
Troll. LOL.
Name calling is the last refuge of those who cannot logically disprove an opposing point of view.

Blah blah blah blah...

 

[DSTORY]

I respect the opinions and beliefs of the posters here, clearly that respect flows only one way. I'm sorry the thought that someone may have a different opinion scares or offends people in this thread.

My mistake was thinking there could be a mature and intellectual discussion of the subject. I called no one a name but several of you did that to me as your first or only response.

Classy blah blah blah

 

[Bryancd]

I respect the opinions and beliefs of the posters here, clearly that respect flows only one way. I'm sorry the thought that someone may have a different opinion scares or offends people in this thread.

My mistake was thinking there could be a mature and intellectual discussion of the subject. I called no one a name but several of you did that to me as your first or only response.

Classy blah blah blah

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but go back and read your first foray into this discussion and ask yourself if that was well considered. Disney defiles Star Wars is hardly an invitation to engage in a discourse.

 

[DSTORY]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but go back and read your first foray into this discussion and ask yourself if that was well considered. Disney defiles Star Wars is hardly an invitation to engage in a discourse.

I stand by with my first statement. No one can possibly watch SW Rebels and not see what they've done.

A young homeless orphan boy who is called a "street rat" by many and steals to live defies his place in life and fights to be more moving up to be a hero. It's a Disney show you can see on the Disney channel. Guess which one it is?

(Hint: It's both)

How can anyone say that doing this to a classic isn't defiling it? And if you can not see the INCREDIBLE resemblance between the two characters above then you're lying.

What about trying to take the lifeboat Narcissus from Alien and slap parts from the MF onto it and calling it the Ghost?

It's clear to me that Disney just want's to get out whatever it can to make back money it spent getting SW and making everyone know it's theirs now.

Star Wars Rebels is a good show unto itself and if you enjoy it that's great, and I DO mean that. But to deny the obvious facts is as lame as what they've done to SW.

 

[Bryancd]

We have discussed both of these topics previously and have moved on, it really helps if you read the entire thread...And I see the Ghost being derivative of the Narcissus a charming homage to one of my favorite films which has nothing to do with Disney branding.

And you are still trolling.

 

[blakeh1]

The stormtroopers aim is just so bad. They can't hit a guy no more than 20 ft away hanging prone on the side of a building. So many scenes where they are just futily blasting away at someone running at them out in the open not even dodging and weaving. It's like they are not even trying. I understand it's a kid's show, but the ineffectiveness of stormtroopers and the ease of which they can be knocked out is just ridiculous.

 

[SteveStarkiller]

I think they just want to show lots of cool fire-fights, but without attaching any stakes to those battles in particular. It is kind of weak sauce. I mean the stormtroopers are notorious, but some of these are just ridiculous.

 

[Bryancd]

I really enjoy these little videos. Here is the latest for "Rise of the Old Masters".

http://youtu.be/VfVAs8ijn7A

 

[dfrey79]

Ok, we all get the Disney-ified effect. Maybe you're right to some degree. I'm guessing by the lack of people willing to engage, no one really cares. We like it anyway.

I think the bigger picture here is what Star Wars has been missing with the countless reiterations over the years. A small, "rag-tag" group of freedom fighters up against impossible odds. Good against evil. It's a simple story of the hero's adventures. This is why I'm liking it so much.

One thing that always makes me cringe is how they always try to write-in popular Star Wars catch phrases from the OT. I'm not sure why it bothers me so much. It just seems too forced I guess.

 

[DSTORY]

We have discussed both of these topics previously and have moved on, it really helps if you read the entire thread...And I see the Ghost being derivative of the Narcissus a charming homage to one of my favorite films which has nothing to do with Disney branding.

And you are still trolling.

No, it's another clear indication that this is not an original show in any way. I've read the whole thread and I know those other subjects have been brought up before, my first post here clearly doesn't include them. I only stated that Disney is defiling SW and how it's a shame.

And I see you've validated my other statement about being no maturity here by your repetitive low brow name calling.

Bottom line is my opinion is wrong to you and you can't stand that. Some hard facts in life you will most likely learn (if ever) the hard way:

-Taxes suck
-Santa Clause is not real
-everyone dies
-Disney defiled Star Wars
-other people besides you have opinions

Now continue with the name calling before your mom yells at you to finish your homework.
dfrey79:

I agree with the move back to a more popular theme with anything new released, just not with the obvious Disney cartoon injections.

Shame so few care though, seems you're right on the nose there.

 

[Bryancd]

Calling you a troll is not a reflection on you as a person, it is descriptive of the content of your post. And at 46 it's likely my homework is far past due.

 

[joshvanrad]

DSTORY

You've been instigating fights since you showed up in this thread. Please, stop. If you haven't gotten your point across by now, maybe it's time to just let it go.

Even if you were right, do you think a thread of people who adore Rebels is a good place to come to and vent your frustrations with Disney? Maybe just think for a bit before you respond again because from the outside it really looks like you're just spinning your wheels and trying to get people to engage in a fight with you.

This is all I have to say to you in this thread.

 

[Riceball]

The stormtroopers aim is just so bad. They can't hit a guy no more than 20 ft away hanging prone on the side of a building. So many scenes where they are just futily blasting away at someone running at them out in the open not even dodging and weaving. It's like they are not even trying. I understand it's a kid's show, but the ineffectiveness of stormtroopers and the ease of which they can be knocked out is just ridiculous.

But since when have we ever been shown that Stormtroopers can hit the broadside of a barn? The only thing we know that they're remotely accurate against are giant, slow moving tracked vehicle full of unarmed Jawa and we only have Obi-Wan's word on that, we never actually see them shot it up.

 

[DSTORY]

@DSTORY

You've been instigating fights since you showed up in this thread. Please, stop. If you haven't gotten your point across by now, maybe it's time to just let it go.

Even if you were right, do you think a thread of people who adore Rebels is a good place to come to and vent your frustrations with Disney? Maybe just think for a bit before you respond again because from the outside it really looks like you're just spinning your wheels and trying to get people to engage in a fight with you.

This is all I have to say to you in this thread.

The only one here talking about fighting is you. I've tried to talk about the show, just from a position apparently not shared by people in this thread. Funny though, you might think that here where there are people smitten with the new show I could learn more why the lack of integrity or originality in Rebels isn't a problem. Talking with others that agree with me is like sitting in a circle and singing kumbaya.

You are probably right, this thread is filled with people eaten up with the the Disney show for whatever reasons. This is not a place to try and speak objectively and maturely. The mistake is all mine and I apologize to everyone here. Not for being what the haters claim but for upsetting the mood here.

Please vent your frustrations here at me if it pleases you, or try to be like josh claims and move on as I have.

 

[Lutso]

I respect the opinions and beliefs of the posters here, clearly that respect flows only one way. I'm sorry the thought that someone may have a different opinion scares or offends people in this thread.

My mistake was thinking there could be a mature and intellectual discussion of the subject. I called no one a name but several of you did that to me as your first or only response.

So this "intellectual discussion" is spearheaded by the opening:

A "street rat" who is to become a savior, a hero? Is this Aladdin or Star Wars.

Disney defiles Star Wars, trying to make it their own.

Sadder than jedi everywhere, sadder than bringing back Vader for their new movie to make ticket sales.

What has Lucas done.......?

Yeah, real good introduction, way to stimulate some meaningful conversation right there.

Dude, Back to the Future is soooo gay. Discuss.

 

[seelsa73]

You know, dstory, if you wouldn't so arrogantly assume that your "Disney is defiling SW" claim is fact instead of the opinion that it truly is, you might have and easier time of striking up a dialogue.