Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi (tv series)

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Okay, just caught up with possibly dozens of pages of this thread, so here's my thoughts through 4 episodes (spoilers).

I like it overall. In general, it feels pretty Star Wars-y, even if there's logic errors abounding. I think it works because of Ewan and the character of Obi-Wan is enjoyable to see in action again. I loved the lightsaber fights, especially between Ben and Vader. My take on the "why didn't Vader just put out the fire" controversy - the 2nd fire was much larger than the first. And it didn't take much time to get Ben out of there, especially if you don't think of time as being exactly one-to-one in movies and tv versus real life (put a stop watch on any scene with a time bomb or countdown to see). So the explosion and flare up was more of a distraction.

I also thought that maybe the fact that Vader created the first fire with his lightsaber, he was using the force and had more control over the flames' creation and destruction. Just a thought.

I also thought that Vader might have had second thoughts - "he still has good in him," as Luke would say later on. He could've had a momentary lapse in bad-judgement.

Too much shaky-cam! I've always disliked the technique, never understood why it got so popular. I assume directors use it to create a more "real" feel, like you'd see in news footage or older documentaries. Or maybe they think it creates a feeling of uneasiness for the viewer. In any case, I don't think it fits in the Star Wars universe very well. I don't think directors have to ape Lucas's style, like with the wipes to change scenes or things like that, but too much shaky-cam is distracting.

I don't think Reva is a great character and isn't being acted very well. I also resent the implication that being critical of her makes me racist. I understand now that there were racist people who hassled her online, which is unacceptable. But it doesn't make her or her character above criticism. She may be a great actor on other things, but I have no knowledge of her outside of this role. Even great actors aren't always great for every role. I shouldn't have to defend myself, but there's plenty of actors of color that I thought did great in their roles in the Star Wars universe - Kelly Marie Tran, John Boyega, James Earl Jones, Billy Dee Williams, Oscar Isaac, to name a few. I realize that sexism has also likely played a part in the hate against Moses Ingram, as it did with Kelly Marie Tran. But to automatically assume any criticism is invalid is an overreaction. My two cents.

Vivian Lyra Blair does a great job in her role as Leia. As with Reva, there's some issuea with how Leia is written and used, but she's doing well, especually for a child actor.

Overall, I'm enjoying it despite the flaws.
 
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My thoughts on Ben and the force - maybe Ben didn't close himself off from the force, maybe the force closed itself off from him!

Okay, maybe not. But I thought that it wasn't as simple as Ben just gave up and closed himself off. I saw him trying and failing to connect with Qui-Gon as him feeling abandoned by all things Jedi. So he has lost his connection to the force, maybe due to that feeling of abandonment, his loss of purpose, relegated to just watching Luke from afar. And this mission re-invigorates him, allows him to reconnect with the force and feel useful again. Perhaps it's an allegory about growing old and feeling you've outlived your usefulness, abondoned and unappreciated by society.
 
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I found the bit about interrogating a 7 year old (no way she's 10) about the location of hidden bases wherever to the point of going to literal torture absurd. You find a kid in a hideout like that, what in the world makes anyone think a child knows the ins and outs of the plan and location of bases? I get they're showing how evil the Empire is, but this just shows they're stupid and evil.
 
Wolfsburg said:
One could infer perhaps that there was some other starfleet, perhaps one more local, although whatever designs GL originally had for that has seemingly been lost to time. I always thought the scene was interesting but not sure it's actually canon or what exactly George originally intended.
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Some kind of merchant marine? Someone is training all those freighter pilots and crews.
 
ScourgiousJinx said:
The padawan in Fortress Inquisitorious (say that three times in a mirror and an Inquisitor appears behind you) could've been staged as a trophy. In museums we often see life like recreations of humans and stuffed preserved animals that are staged (often with props) to depict a snapshot of a moment in time. If it's a trophy room the helmet could've been added to the padawan and body posed to depict when the Jedi temple was attacked. Morbid as hell but that seems to be what they're going for with a giant room of dead(?) Jedi. I suspect there's more to it than that to tie it in to the Mandalorian and the Palpatine cloning projects. Point is the fact that the youngling was wearing a saber training helmet isn't exactly a sign of incompetence IMO.
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They did it in a flashback to Order 66 as well, so it wasn't just that one scene.

cboath said:
I found the bit about interrogating a 7 year old (no way she's 10) about the location of hidden bases wherever to the point of going to literal torture absurd. You find a kid in a hideout like that, what in the world makes anyone think a child knows the ins and outs of the plan and location of bases? I get they're showing how evil the Empire is, but this just shows they're stupid and evil.
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A Youtuber that was talking about this episode said something like "It's a kid! Did you try just bribing her with candy? What about acting like you're the good guys and tell her how the Jedi are bad, and that's why they're gone!" You'd think someone with the Dark Side, while not Sith, would still be a little bit more slick and manipulative. Another reason that character is poorly written.
 
Lightning said:
Some kind of merchant marine? Someone is training all those freighter pilots and crews.
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I'd say it's just as plausible as most any other explanation! I had also thought perhaps some sort of regional defense force (ala Corporate Sector Authority from the EU). Just based on the dialogue from the movie, an Imperial connection just doesn't make much sense in my mind.
Sluis Van Shipyards said:
A Youtuber that was talking about this episode said something like "It's a kid! Did you try just bribing her with candy? What about acting like you're the good guys and tell her how the Jedi are bad, and that's why they're gone!" You'd think someone with the Dark Side, while not Sith, would still be a little bit more slick and manipulative. Another reason that character is poorly written.
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Yeah, Reva's inept interrogation of a child was cringe, let alone her belief this little kid that had nothing to do with anything could have worthwhile information useful to her. Similar to the Dantooine meme from earlier, I kept waiting for them to say that Leia's "resistance to the mind probe was considerable..." lol!
 
Yeah baby, double down on it Disney. Make it the most expensive show ever produced in history. Spend all the money on it, you'll make it back I promise.
 
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