Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi (tv series)

[CT1138]

Well he can withstand the vacuum of space so I would assume the suit is indeed sealed.

But the breathing system in his suit works by cycling air through it. So even if he can survive in space, however briefly, it's not exactly a closed system. His mask basically works like a filter, with the suit itself as a way of supporting his damaged body.

 

[Riceball]

Here is a simple rhetorical question...Did Obi-wan in ANH seem like he had PTSD? I'm a military vet and i'm not discounting it in real life but i find it interesting that when ANH was filmed in 1976, the term PTSD wasn't even thought of yet. So let's start at ANH and take OBI-Wan as he was then...then go backwards in time if you can. Only base things on what you learned about him in ANH. Don't bring in the prequels yet. I'm serious, just watch ANH again, write stuff down on paper. When you think you are done then watch ROTS. Take the info that was left of that movie and write it down concerning Obi-Wan. If you compare your notes thus far, you have to be scratching your head by now. Now add in what you've learned from Rebels/clone wars. Now you're head is spinning. Finally, add in Han Solo movie/Rogue One and now the Kenobi series. Compare your notes to the original notes from ANH and if your notes don't make sense then you've probably done your math equation correctly. 2 plus 2 will never be 5. No matter how you try to manipulate those numbers it will simply never add up. "but wait...there are 3 more episodes to make the whole puzzle complete" , some will say.

The term PTSD didn't exist yet in the '70s but the basic concept behind existed even if it wasn't as fully understood as it is today. Back then, it would have been known as shell shock, or some other term back then.

 

[CopperRevan]

The term PTSD didn't exist yet in the '70s but the basic concept behind existed even if it wasn't as fully understood as it is today. Back then, it would have been known as shell shock, or some other term back then.

Yep...i.knew that, my point was whatever you want to label it...did Obi-Wan seem to have it? No way. If people say, oh, he was hiding it...that's what people do with PTSD. Then I would ask, if that's what people do with PTSD is hide it, then why didn't the writers hide it in THE Kenobi SERIES as well? To bring awareness? I don't think so. I mean, let's be consistent with the character.

 

[CT1138]

I mean, by ANH, he's had 20 years to come to terms with his trauma. I think that's what part of this series will be: Kenobi coming to terms with his trauma.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

 

[CopperRevan]

He didn't seem traumatized at the end of ROTS and he wasn't at all in ANH so miraculously, he developes PTSD that happens to go away by the time Luke is a teen after evading capture and death for 20 years...If what you are saying is true then the battle has never stopped, and if it hasn't then when did he have time to come to terms?

 

[Paul Andrew]

I think this point of contention we are having was already an issue in episode 3. I don't really think this makes things worse. Before the show, Obi-Wan's final confrontation on Mustafar already made the scene in episode 6 feel awkward. I think, and this is unfortunate, the audience is supposed to believe that Ben is a bad narrator all the way through the whole trilogy, including ep 6 with his discussion with Luke. As such, if we were to make sense of this, Ben has to be lying to Luke regarding the: "hidden from your father" thing, which is bizarre since it's such a weird thing to lie about.

As far as the hidden from your father line goes, it's a little bit potato potahto.

I mean, do we want an ADR line where he says "we were hiding you from the emperor, until I discovered your dad was alive, at which point we were already hiding you so I guess we were hiding you from him too. Anyhow..."

Like, it still makes sense as is, from that POV, years after he realized Vader was alive. Luke doesn't need to know every detail of who knew what when at that point.

 

[CT1138]

He didn't seem traumatized at the end of ROTS and he wasn't at all in ANH so miraculously, he developes PTSD that happens to go away by the time Luke is a teen after evading capture and death for 20 years...If what you are saying is true then the battle has never stopped, and if it hasn't then when did he have time to come to terms?

PTSD is like a scar. Scars don't form immediately after the wound is made, but they take a while to fade once they form. I've seen men who seem perfectly healthy, and have seemed to have gotten over their trauma for years suddenly relapse at a trigger point, and turn into a hyperventilating mess in the middle of the canned goods aisle. My best friend has a classic PTSD case from experiencing years of childhood abuse (night terrors, thrashing in sleep, trigger points). Everybody's trigger is different. For all we know, Obi-Wan has it manageable by the time of ANH. Heck, he could still be experiencing nightly nightmares. We don't see him sleeping in the movie.

 

[CopperRevan]

PTSD is like a scar. Scars don't form immediately after the wound is made, but they take a while to fade once they form. I've seen men who seem perfectly healthy, and have seemed to have gotten over their trauma for years suddenly relapse at a trigger point, and turn into a hyperventilating mess in the middle of the canned goods aisle. My best friend has a classic PTSD case from experiencing years of childhood abuse (night terrors, thrashing in sleep, trigger points). Everybody's trigger is different. For all we know, Obi-Wan has it manageable by the time of ANH. Heck, he could still be experiencing nightly nightmares. We don't see him sleeping in the movie.

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You are using PTSD as the Macguffin? "he could be...he probably...maybe he..." No one is arguing what PTSD does or what trauma does and is. The point is , is that you are hanging the whole entire plot point and character developement on PTSD. That is just plain lame and it's simply not present as a plot point in ROTS nor in ANH. I refer you to ALLEY's video post a few spaces up in the feed...lol, i can't top that.

 

[CopperRevan]

Besides the F-word every 5 secs, this is spot on...thanks again.

 

[mattycsi]

I've been pretty lenient on some of the decisions in the show so far because I think it's decent. I initially dismissed this plot-point, but a recent reddit thread poked fun at it and now i'm double-questioning how problematic this is. If Reva tells Vader that Bail has known about Ben's location, shouldn't Vader have dealt with Bail before ANH? Unless the show addresses Vader's intentions to leave Bail alone, this is a very weird decision.

EDIT: See my comment below for an explanation (to a degree)
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I took that link as knowing they worked closely around the time the war started and there was a possibility that pressuring Bail would see him turn to Obi Wan if he was still alive.
I think the above only becomes a problem if it transpires she knows about the kids

 

[janglesworthy]

I still think Obi-Wan ends up banging one of these chicks. 75% chance it's the British chick.

 

[MattWinchell]

As far as the hidden from your father line goes, it's a little bit potato potahto.

I mean, do we want an ADR line where he says "we were hiding you from the emperor, until I discovered your dad was alive, at which point we were already hiding you so I guess we were hiding you from him too. Anyhow..."

Like, it still makes sense as is, from that POV, years after he realized Vader was alive. Luke doesn't need to know every detail of who knew what when at that point.

Fair enough!

 

[Master Boda]

Blue and green screens have been in use from before the PT and Lucascilms/ILM weren't the first ones to use them either. Blue and green screens have been used since the early days of optical; compositing and were used extensively in the OT, but Lcuas wasn't the first to use them. What he/they did pioneer was the extensive use of them and for virtual sets.

Thank you for the clarification I didn’t think I remembered it correctly.

 

[Jamesfett]

Alright, that's it. I have had it. After reading all your comments I am finally gonna unload with how I really feel about this show.


Nuts!

 

[CopperRevan]

Next episode is directed by Robert Rodriguez...just kidding, as Bugs Bunny says..." Ain't I a stinker" lol

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

Shell Shock -> Battle Fatigue -> Operational Exhaustion -> Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

George Carlin has a great monologue about how what we call this has changed over the years.

 

[Treadwell]

I'd just like to pop in with the random observation that sometime prior to this show, Ewan had the mole on his forehead removed.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

 

[mattycsi]

Shell Shock -> Battle Fatigue -> Operational Exhaustion -> Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

George Carlin has a great monologue about how what we call this has changed over the years.

George had the greatest monologues about everything.

 

[Ned Figglehorn]

I'd just like to pop in with the random observation that sometime prior to this show, Ewan had the mole on his forehead removed.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

I noticed this too and I'm genuinely surprised I haven't seen anyone complaining about the continuity of Ewan's mole yet. "Are we supposed to believe it just fell off under the Tatooine suns??" is something I expected to read...