Star Trek related - I may get slammed for this..
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clancampbell
Sr Member
I like the JJ Prise......i feel sometimes that there's too much rigidity in Trek design, too much, "oh....no,no,no....that won't do at all...."
I liked that the Nu was....different....daring.....unusual, but retained that essential Star Trek-ness....like the Excelsior. I feel a lot of "accepted" Trek ship designs miss the mark far more than the JJ does....like Voyager, Defiant, Ambassador Class......
But, it's just an opinion and it's all about beauty being in the eye of the beholder.
Rich
I liked that the Nu was....different....daring.....unusual, but retained that essential Star Trek-ness....like the Excelsior. I feel a lot of "accepted" Trek ship designs miss the mark far more than the JJ does....like Voyager, Defiant, Ambassador Class......
But, it's just an opinion and it's all about beauty being in the eye of the beholder.
Rich
Yea, I totally get that! Once the Defiant came on the scene, I gave up and just started accepting the designs for what they were. I do like the fact that most designs do fit into the world, but there are those oddballs like the Defiant.
The first time I saw the Ent-E on screen, my jaw dropped. It was so new, but had all those great elements, like the pylons. I'm a sucker for any Federation ship with long legs.
But, to each there own. I could go on for days over the design of the newer looking ships in the SW prequels, but that's another thread.
I WOULD like to see reddish orange bussard collectors and a slight shrinking of the nacelles overall. The brewery was a neat idea, but poorly exectued. I get the boiler room idea, but come on, feed bin warp cores? Yuck . . .
The first time I saw the Ent-E on screen, my jaw dropped. It was so new, but had all those great elements, like the pylons. I'm a sucker for any Federation ship with long legs.
But, to each there own. I could go on for days over the design of the newer looking ships in the SW prequels, but that's another thread.
I WOULD like to see reddish orange bussard collectors and a slight shrinking of the nacelles overall. The brewery was a neat idea, but poorly exectued. I get the boiler room idea, but come on, feed bin warp cores? Yuck . . .
TheDoctor
Sr Member
Actually, the official-"unofficial" explanation for why Voyager's nacelles moved was to avoid the "Warp Speed Destruction" effects seen in the TNG episode where they find that Warp Speed is destroying the fabric of space. Later ships don't have bending nacelles because they found another way to fix the problem.
Mmmm-hey!
TheDoctor
Sr Member
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your analysis of the JJ-prise, but Jeffries and Roddenberry designed the Enterprise before NASA designed the first Space Shuttle - hence the JJ-prise looks more Space Shuttle than Aircraft Carrier.
In terms of Military-designed gear, the Navy's ships have always been ugly and utilitarian - even today. Now the Airforce, on the other hand, has some nice kit.
GoGators
New Member
Ive been using that as my sig line on here for years now.
Haha! It is a great sig
!!! I didnt see that until now though. I was emailed this in response to a christmas email describing what was going on in my life over the last year... Cheers mate!:cheers
Gogatos
DARTH SABER
Master Member
I agree.
I can appreciate the sentiment that the original Enterprise had a real-world ship style, but then again that was based on the real-world concept of space crafts during the mid to late 60's.
Any new technology's first incarnation is going to be more practicality than style....As technology improves, more design aspects will be added.
Look at what jets looked like when they were first invented, and look at what they look like now.
Is one more real-world than the other?
CJS
Well-Known Member
I agree.
I can appreciate the sentiment that the original Enterprise had a real-world ship style, but then again that was based on the real-world concept of space crafts during the mid to late 60's.
Any new technology's first incarnation is going to be more practicality than style....As technology improves, more design aspects will be added.
Look at what jets looked like when they were first invented, and look at what they look like now.
Is one more real-world than the other?
Exactly. Perfectly explained
More like this...
And yes that is an actual flying aicraft.
I think it flys by repelling the earth through pure ugly.
DARTH SABER
Master Member
And this -
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Looking at a lot of the comparison pictures, the JJprise sure looks like it's squeezing things in pretty tightly. The secondary hull looks like it's spitting distance away from the saucer. And forget about the nacelles being close to each other, the ram scoops look like they're almost touching the saucer. I feel like telling this ship to stretch out!
CB2001
Master Member
More like this...
And yes that is an actual flying aicraft.
I think it flys by repelling the earth through pure ugly.
More like this:
And this:
Combined.
Jehudah Design
Well-Known Member
I can't stand the JJprise and it reminds me of this:
That movie only screwed up the whole original Star Trek story. All who love TOS knows this. I don't give a rats anus about an alternate timeline with alternate captain Kirk and alternate Spock and the rest of the alternate crew in an alternate Enterprise in an alternate storyline that doesn't even follow the TOS storyline at all just so someone could as he said himself "make Star Trek more into Star Wars" and milk undeserved money out of something that never should have been made to begin with...
...But then that's just me...
@BAK55 - Dude! That's just the sort of things I've always compared the other Enterprises to also.
That movie only screwed up the whole original Star Trek story. All who love TOS knows this. I don't give a rats anus about an alternate timeline with alternate captain Kirk and alternate Spock and the rest of the alternate crew in an alternate Enterprise in an alternate storyline that doesn't even follow the TOS storyline at all just so someone could as he said himself "make Star Trek more into Star Wars" and milk undeserved money out of something that never should have been made to begin with...
...But then that's just me...
@BAK55 - Dude! That's just the sort of things I've always compared the other Enterprises to also.
JD
Master Member
I think the new Enterprise is perfectly acceptable... it's much more a "hot rod" then we're accustomed to - but they could've just gone in a completely different direction that paid no attention to the previous Enterprise designs.
Frankly, compared to the Enterprise D and esepcially Enterprise E, it's an improvement. The E is the worst looking Starship we've seen from Starfleet.
Frankly, compared to the Enterprise D and esepcially Enterprise E, it's an improvement. The E is the worst looking Starship we've seen from Starfleet.
CB2001
Master Member
There was never a problem with the Enterprise-D's design. As far as I'm concern, it's just as much of an Enterprise design than Abram's so-called Apple Enterprise because Gene Roddenberry himself signed off on the design (especially since he was the creator of both the original Star Trek and, correct me if I'm wrong, was the creator of ST:TNG as well) and, from what I know, I haven't heard of one fan ever complain about the ship's design.
DARTH SABER
Master Member
Agreed. D and E, ugliest of all the enteprises.
The Enterprise D, talk about unbalanced design. the saucer section is almost twice the size of the secondary hull and nacelle's combined.
Then there's the unbelievable amount of windows added to the entire ship. It looks like its suffering from acne.
Not to mention that the the nacelles look like little flippers in the shape of lady finger cookies -
DARTH SABER
Master Member
CB2001
Master Member
What about this?
Even that's better than Abrams' Apple Enterprise with the iBridge plus massive Lens Flare app.
