Star Trek Picard Season Three

I don't understand documentaries that get a bunch of talking heads from people who are just famous and/or fans, who had nothing to do with the production, or, in the case of older material where no one is left, are at least in a field of study about such things.

In a documentary, I DO NOT CARE what random fans at a convention, or even other Star Trek stars, have to say about a show if they were not involved.

The otherwise terrific DS9 documentary from a few years ago suffers from this.
 
Picard never saw Data die even once. He was transported back to the Enterprise E and then Data, alone, blew up himself with the ship. That was the end of Data. Not a bad way to go. Any copy of him in B-4 is just that. A copy.

Picard is dead. He died at the end of whatever Picard episode he died in. The "Android" body he is in is just a copy of him.

If no one ever dies, always cheesily brought back, (hello MCU) it really cheapens the story and character.

Just saying.
 
Speaking of cheese, just before Picard joined the group for the poker game in All Good Things, he woke up from a strange dream about bad movie adventures, sequels, prequels, and other nonsense. Then he joined them for poker and that was the end of Star Trek.
 
Picard never saw Data die even once. He was transported back to the Enterprise E and then Data, alone, blew up himself with the ship. That was the end of Data. Not a bad way to go. Any copy of him in B-4 is just that. A copy.

Picard is dead. He died at the end of whatever Picard episode he died in. The "Android" body he is in is just a copy of him.

If no one ever dies, always cheesily brought back, (hello MCU) it really cheapens the story and character.

Just saying.

(Jake Skywalker voice) "No one's ever really gone."

Oh, wait, wrong dead franchise.
 
Speaking of cheese, just before Picard joined the group for the poker game in All Good Things, he woke up from a strange dream about bad movie adventures, sequels, prequels, and other nonsense. Then he joined them for poker and that was the end of Star Trek.

I still say he's stuck in the Nexus. He gets to team up with Kirk, gets revenge on the Borg, has some romance, then beats his younger and stronger clone. All fantasies of an aging Captain.
 
Looks like we will get another appearance of Tuvok…whether it is the REAL Tuvok, or a Changling, we will have to see…(y)

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Picard never saw Data die even once. He was transported back to the Enterprise E and then Data, alone, blew up himself with the ship. That was the end of Data. Not a bad way to go. Any copy of him in B-4 is just that. A copy.

Picard is dead. He died at the end of whatever Picard episode he died in. The "Android" body he is in is just a copy of him.

If no one ever dies, always cheesily brought back, (hello MCU) it really cheapens the story and character.

Just saying.

Never really dying is a proud franchise tradition…

Remember Wrath Of Khan GIF by BBALLBREAKDOWN
 
Of course, there's still debate on whether Spock's resurrection was the right way to go. I can see both sides of the argument.

It’s the great “what-if” of the franchise regarding what would have happened if they had had the courage to have moved on without Spock.

I’m not sure if they would have known where to take things.

Would they have tried to bring back Xon? Would they have moved Kristie Alley over to the science station?
 
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See I actually thought Nemesis had a great end for him. He sacrificed himself. Said goodbye, and went out in a blaze of sacrificial glory. They should have left it at that. Left out B4 all together and just let him be dead.
I could have been okay with it if that was the way they went, but B4 WAS in that movie and the resolution they provided at the end of season 1 of Picard didn't make any damn sense and I'm hoping that we get a better finish this time.
 
It’s the great “what-if” of the franchise regarding what would would have happened if they had the courage to have moved on without Spock.

I’m not sure if they would have known where to take things.

Would they have tried to bring back Xon? Would they have moved Kristie Alley over to the science station?

Of course, TWOK set up the possibility of the literal “next generation” of characters being a focus of future films, with Kirk’s son and Spock’s “daughter”, but the film was still essentially a one-off which ended up becoming a big hit. Once Nimoy decided to come back, any notions of growth and change were quietly shuffled away via backpedaling, and the next four films became an every-few-years reunion with our favorite starship crew. And I can’t say that was the wrong choice.

While STAR TREK (with the right creative talent) could have maturely and insightfully moved forward in the aftermath of Spock’s death, I think there’s something to be said for iconic heroes to remain evergreen in our memories by getting their happy ending and flying off into the sunset.

In recent years, we’ve seen far too many “realistic”, downer endings for beloved characters and franchises, and we’ve also seen that leaving a sour taste in the audience’s mouth usually doesn’t end well.

As Nick Meyer has said, it’s more about killing a character well than whether or not they should be killed, and Spock had one of the great deaths in all of cinema, one worthy of the character. But keeping the family together and having them fly into the sunset at the end of TUC just feels right.

I’ve often said that the original STAR WARS trilogy was basically a story about a group of heroes who came together from very different circumstances and formed a surrogate family, and that’s partly why it resonated so strongly with people. Flash-forward to the disastrous Disney Trilogy, and that family was completely ripped apart. Which did NOT sit well with fans.


To borrow from WAYNE’S WORLD, sometimes you just need the mega-happy ending, to heck with “realism”.
 
Picard never saw Data die even once. He was transported back to the Enterprise E and then Data, alone, blew up himself with the ship. That was the end of Data. Not a bad way to go. Any copy of him in B-4 is just that. A copy.

Picard is dead. He died at the end of whatever Picard episode he died in. The "Android" body he is in is just a copy of him.

If no one ever dies, always cheesily brought back, (hello MCU) it really cheapens the story and character.

Just saying.

Everyone is dead when they go through the transporter, or we accept the idea that what makes a person who they are isn't intangible, and is replicable in the future.
 
Everyone is dead when they go through the transporter, or we accept the idea that what makes a person who they are isn't intangible, and is replicable in the future.


Just saw a freaky, mind bender of a video on that. McCoy was right about those dammed transporters.
 
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