Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release)

I can understand not beaming or sending a probe into this environment:

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It looks a bit unstable for either.

I would think they could come up with a better distraction for the natives and I'm still wondering why they would need to submerge the Enterprise when Kirk and McCoy could probably beam out? Then they could rendezvous with the shuttle?

I will withhold judgement until I see the movie but some of these elements seem a bit odd (like why they're so concerned with this planet to begin with).
 
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...I will withhold judgement until I see the movie but some of these elements seem a bit odd (like why they're so concerned with this planet to begin with).
Because J.J.'s a Star Wars fan, and shots like this remind him of Mustafar. I won't be surprised if I see Anakin and Obi-Wan dueling in the background. :lol
 
Request confirmation. Spock deliberately chooses death over having the locals get a glimpse of the Enterprise. Is that what's happening?
 
Because J.J.'s a Star Wars fan, and shots like this remind him of Mustafar. I won't be surprised if I see Anakin and Obi-Wan dueling in the background. :lol

I wonder if Camille Paglia will find this movie one of most significant pieces of art in the past thirty years? :lol
 
Thanks ProfK. Anyone remember this moment from the last film?

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Pretty big moment. Prime Spock tells NuSpock that he should stay with the Enterprise because his life onboard the ship lead to a much greater, productive and meaningful life?...

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Well, one year out and here he is laying down his life without a second thought. That's not him reacting to anything around him. He is literally holding his arms up in acceptance of death. Why? Is it because he must stay behind to ensure the ice cube device works? Is it because him being there will ensure the survival of his shipmates? Is it because he cannot be rescued period?

No. It's because he doesn't want to expose the Enterprise to a small group of natives living on the planet. It's the Prime Directive, you see. It doesn't matter how decorated you are, what sacrifices you've made, what you've lost in the line of duty or what great potential you might have. If you are faced with a choice between death or exposing your starship to a relatively small group of scroll worshipping natives, the Prime Directive says YOU MUST DIE.

How can Spock, one of the most resourceful people in all of Starfleet logically come to the conclusion that dying over a 'possibility' be the best course of action? He even says "The needs of the many out weighs the needs of the few". What many? It's just a small group of people who will only be seeing a starship. What do you think your potential century long endeavors will amount to? Nothing?

I've never liked the Prime Directive when it's used to incite good characters into doing stupid things, but this is like a whole different area of sloppy writing. We know Kirk is going to show off his big ship, we know Spock is going to get rescued and the natives saved, and yes, we know that Kirk and Spock will get into a feud over this matter. It's kind of hard to entice drama and excitement about a main character possibly dying in the first 9 minutes of the film WHEN WE KNOW HE'S GOING TO SURVIVE. Nice to know we've abandoned that heartfelt sacrifice opening of of the last film with total predictability instead.
 
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You're kidding. Starfleet is so sophisticated they have to do a "Look over here!" trick to go unnoticed?

I'm starting to warm to those fan-made continuations of TOS.

Kirk specifically says that the locals are out of the "kill zone" at the end of the chase, and we then see the erupting volcano obliterate part of the village. He stole the scroll to lure the natives out of harm's way. Which makes sense, since they're trying to avoid letting the inhabitants know they're being saved by spacemen.

There's plenty of dumb crap in these nine minutes to roll our eyes at, so there's hardly a need to go making more up.
 
Not the same ship as the first film!!! I'm stoked!!

What makes you say that? Is it the Deflector? Because the reason it's not glowing blue is because it's missing a big chunk of the dish. And the saucer section isn't looking too good either if you can find the right frame.
 
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Subtle differences, but the aztech hull design on the hull are visible and the saucer looks more like the 1701-A. Yeah I thought the deflector looked different (more like the original). We'll see!!

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Here's an interesting comparison:

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looking at the first pic above, it looks like the pylons might be spread further apart too....could be just me though.
 
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