Star Trek Into Darkness (Post-release)

[Jeyl]

Not to fuel the flames, but 'The Worlds End' is not going to sell like the current Star Trek, so including all of those bonuses is there to sweeten the deal.

Actually including all those bonus features is kind of the "standard" for Edgar Wright's movies. He is so involved with the bonus material that he will bring in celebrity friends of his who have nothing to do with the production (Quinten Tarintino for his series "Spaced"). He doesn't put Bonus Features on the discs to "sweeten the deal", be puts them there because he happens to enjoy producing them. Even "The Hobbit" films seem to be selling really well and the Extended Editions have some of the best Special Features ever produced for a feature title.

Star Trek films sell with or without the extras.

Like Star Trek Nemesis?

There's also the licensing side of this for exclusive releases. When you do a specific release for each retailer (including online retailers like Xbox in this case), that means a specific license agreement with EACH retailer, which nets you more cash. They get the benefit of having attractive features to offer their customer base, you get the benefit of additional cash for giving them the exclusive right to sell a toy Phaser or mini starship or deleted scenes with this or that version. And maybe you get the hardcore fans who collect all of them, which is just gravy on top of this.

...So in conclusion, studios such as Paramount are willing to sacrifice quality and content if it means earning themselves an extra buck. I don't think that will gain more support for the studios if that's all you've got. Sure, it might make it easier to understand, but to quote the man himself,

Spock: I do not approve. I understand.

 

[Raphael Argus]

Actually including all those bonus features is kind of the "standard" for Edgar Wright's movies.

And none of them grossed what Star Trek Nemesis did.

Again, I love extras and wish all films had them, but it is not a requirement for my purchasing a DVD or not.

A studio is in business to make money (shocker, right?), and as said earlier, they likely make more $ by exclusive retailer deals than from us uber fanboys that are completists.

And I love several of Edgar Wright's films... especially Hot Fuzz.

 

[Jeyl]

And none of them grossed what Star Trek Nemesis did.

The World's End made more than twice it's budget back. Nemesis barely made it over 7 million of it's 60 million budget.

 

[Father]

Watch all those new Star Trek Into Darkness deleted scenes here

there, for free you cheap bastards.

Thanks. Now I don't need to go out and re-buy it... and you saved me the anger of "why di I just pay for these crappy deleted scenes?"

Pretty well enforces what I said earlier about how they're deleted for a reason.

 

[SmilingOtter]

I would love to hear an explanation of the USS Biddeford. I could use a good laugh.

 

[greatwazoo42]

I would love to hear an explanation of the USS Biddeford. I could use a good laugh.

You and me both.

 

[Wakeem]

I watched this movie a month or so ago. Happy I didn't pay for it in theaters. A really bad movie if you are a fan of Wrath of Khan. I'm tempted to write another paper on the movie like I did with Tron Legacy. But I'll pass. People who like the real Khan know this movie is garbage. And I think the writers and director knows it too with all the excuses they are coming up with after the fact.

Somehow someone thought that the blood thing was a good idea because they are using a similar thing in the Star Crossed TV show on the CW.

 

[cayman shen]

So just re-watched this now that it's on Netflix. I was pleasantly surprised to find that I enjoyed it much more the second time. The first time, I was insanely irritated by all the weak cribbing off TWOK, but now that I knew it was coming I was able to shrug off the couple moments that made me cringe (except Spock's "needs of the many" which was still painful). I'm still not sure JJ is right for ST, but I was able to view STID with both less knee-jerk impatience and an eye toward the same director tackling SW, and it made me feel pretty optimistic.

 

[dascoyne]

Abrams is a very talented filmmaker without an innate appreciation of Star Trek who made a well-intentioned but miscalculated attempt at appeasing seasoned Trekkies with this film.
No hate.
No love.
only sorrow and regret.

 

[AJTaliesen]

Had pretty much the opposite reaction of most here. Thought it was garbage with more plot holes than an episode of Voyager. Not only was this the first and only Star Trek that I didn't feel the need to see on opening day, but it may have been the last one I'll bother to even see in theaters, possibly at all if JJ is involved in any future tries.

Still some hope for SW because Disney is likely to demand more examination of the script, but even that one I'll probably wait a week and see what others think before I bother.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Can't believe people are still talking about this film. :lol

No hate.
No love.
only sorrow and regret.

Pretty much my thoughts. The recent films have been high production but very generic with not a lot of real substance. Take 'em or leave 'em. Some very poor "Trek" decisions made in my opinion.

Despite certain things that bothered me I did enjoy the first one. Into Darkness I found I didn't even really enjoy on a superficial level. Fingers crossed for the next one.

 

[Alan Castillo]

ooooooh, another Trek movie. I'm all for it

 

[cayman shen]

Can't believe people are still talking about this film. :lol



Pretty much my thoughts. The recent films have been high production but very generic with not a lot of real substance. Take 'em or leave 'em. Some very poor "Trek" decisions made in my opinion.

Despite certain things that bothered me I did enjoy the first one. Into Darkness I found I didn't even really enjoy on a superficial level. Fingers crossed for the next one.

I know, I kinda necro-posted, but I hated the crap out of it at first, so I thought it was worth seeing if anyone else softened up upon a second viewing. Still a deeply flawed movie, with some MAJOR plot holes, but going in prepared allowed me to enjoy it more, that's all.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

I know, I kinda necro-posted, but I hated the crap out of it at first, so I thought it was worth seeing if anyone else softened up upon a second viewing. Still a deeply flawed movie, with some MAJOR plot holes, but going in prepared allowed me to enjoy it more, that's all.

:thumbsup

Certainly a valid reason to chat. I wasn't calling you out, no worries.

 

[The Terminator]

Really liked J.J.'s first one
Really disdained this one

I didn't watch any trailers before seeing the whole thing. However no matter how hard I tried I could not escape the fact that I heard it would revolve around Khan not being Khan but then he really is Khan after all. Great idea by the way! :facepalm

 

[cayman shen]

:thumbsup

Certainly a valid reason to chat. I wasn't calling you out, no worries.

Oh I know, we're good

 

[robn1]

I finally watched it a few weeks ago. Took me three tries to get through it, it was that bad. This film was no different than the first, a bunch of stuff lifted from previous films and thrown in for their familiarity. These are like fan films with big budgets. I groaned watching Star Trek The New Voyages when Kirk used the "headache" line from Tribbles, used only for it's familiarity. These films are doing the same thing, "Let's use a TOS planet name to make the fans happy". Yeah, that'll do it. Talentless, clueless jackasses.

 

[Jeyl]

I groaned watching Star Trek The New Voyages when Kirk used the "headache" line from Tribbles, used only for it's familiarity. These films are doing the same thing, "Let's use a TOS planet name to make the fans happy". Yeah, that'll do it. Talentless, clueless jackasses.

Leave it to Roberto Orci to take that line of reasoning and make it sound even more like he doesn't give a crap. For example, creating a planet that's closer to Vulcan than our own moon is to Earth and calling it Delta Vega.

We moved the planet to suit our purposes. The familiarity of the name seemed more important as an Easter egg, than a new name with no importance.

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There is so much wrong with that statement. If the fans know Star Trek well enough to recognize the name "Delta Vega", they're going to know that the planet Delta Vega from the series was located on the border of the freaking galaxy, not in a moon like orbit around Vulcan. If you're going to do an easter egg, why not do it right? Oh, I forgot. It wouldn't suit your purpose. Might as well apply that to why you had the villain of STID be Khan.

"We changed the villain's name to Khan to suit our purposes. The familiarity of the name seemed more important due to the original Khan's iconic status than giving him a name that no one remembers."

And just like how Vulcan shouldn't have any moons (or planets that close to it), Khan shouldn't be about committing acts of mass genocide! There are details from the episode "Space Seed", his Star Trek debut that clearly establishes his character as someone who doesn't do that sort of thing.

 

[dascoyne]

I can watch "Space Seed" for the 100th time and still enjoy it.
I got Into The Darkness on Blu-Ray, watched it once and I want to sell the discs now.

 

[Jeyl]

Good news NuTrek lovers! Bill hunt from thedigitalbits.com went over to Paramount and conveyed his opinion regarding how the BluRay release of Star Trek Into Darkness was... *clears throat* horrendously terrible. It seems that the home video department had a bunch of new guys who didn't understand the concept of expectations. Well, they've listened and are now going give Star Trek Into Darkness the release it should have had on Day 1. Unfortunately, there's a bit of a catch. You'll be buying the first film all over again.

Disc 3

Star Trek Into Darkness IMAX Version in high definition
Enhanced Commentary​

Disc 4

The Voyage Begins… Again — Go behind-the-scenes as filming begins on the next Star Trek adventure.
Creating the Red Planet — Experience the creation of a never-before-seen alien world, as featured in the action-packed opening sequence of the film.
Introducing the Villain
Rebuilding the Enterprise — See the design and construction of a bigger, interconnected Enterprise set.
National Ignition Facility: Home of the Core — Location shooting at the National Ignition Facility.
Attack on Starfleet — Go behind the scenes with the cast and filmmakers and witness the creation of the shocking attack on Starfleet Headquarters.
Aliens Encountered — The design and application of alien makeup.
The Klingon Home World — Discover the stunning world of Kronos, and see how the filmmakers reinvented the Klingons for a new generation.
The Enemy of My Enemy — Find out how, and why, the identity of the film’s true villain was kept a mystery to the very end.
Vengeance is Coming — A comprehensive look at the design and production surrounding the black ship.
Ship to Ship — An in-depth and thrilling look at the filming of the iconic space jump sequence, which both defied the laws of physics and pushed the limits of visual effects.
Mr. Spock and Mr. Spock — Leonard Nimoy makes a cameo appearance and reflects on his history with Trek.
Down with the Ship — Discover the stunt & VFX work involved to make the Enterprise roll over.
Kirk and Spock — Explore the dynamic relationship between the film’s heroes.
Brawl by the Bay — Sit in with Zachary Quinto and Benedict Cumberbatch as they revisit their intense preparation for the film’s breathtaking climax.
Continuing the Mission — An inspiring look at the partnership between the film’s crew and the organization that assists returning veterans to find meaningful ways to contribute on the home front.
Unlocking the Cut — A discussion with the film editors about their monumental task.
The Sounds of Music (and FX) — A discussion with film composer Michael Giacchino and sound designer Ben Burtt.
Visual Affection — A comprehensive look at the creation and implementation of visual effects.
Safety First — A prank pulled on the cast.
Theatrical Trailers
NEW! Deleted Scenes
NEW! Photo Gallery
NEW! Gag Reel
NEW! Fitting the Future — A look at the film’s out-of-this-world costumes.
NEW! Property of Starfleet — Sourcing and tracking the film’s myriad props.​

Also, I love the package design. Certainly puts the re-packaged "Stardate" releases of the original movies to shame.

So score one for tangible medium collectors! They weren't trying to abandon the medium. They just didn't know what to do with it. I also like how that behind the scenes feature is titled "The Voyage Begins… Again", because how many more beginnings do we need before Star Trek finally goes somewhere?