Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
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maffhewdc
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
I kinda feel bad for Tom Holland. Seems like nobody cares about him. Personally, I'm not quite happy with the casting choice, but Marvel has never casted a bad actor for a role before, and Sony has casted two great interpretations of Spider-Man so far, so I wanna give the guy a chance
I kinda feel bad for Tom Holland. Seems like nobody cares about him. Personally, I'm not quite happy with the casting choice, but Marvel has never casted a bad actor for a role before, and Sony has casted two great interpretations of Spider-Man so far, so I wanna give the guy a chance
Father
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
It's not so much that I don't care about the casting as I just don't care about another Spider-Man in 15 years.
Spider-Man is awesome.... I'm just burned out on seeing the movies get momentum and then trip and fall hard on their face.
The best way to keep Spider-Man going right now would be in a supporting role in the MCU. It's hard to blame Marvel but in hindsight I think they really dropped the ball in not fighting to share the character in the first Avengers movie. It was in NYC... the least they could have done was a cameo to acknowledge his existence. They could have shelled out whatever to Sony and Sony would have realized they could bank on the character and not lift a finger. Idiots.
And shouldn't it be Spider-Kid?
It's not so much that I don't care about the casting as I just don't care about another Spider-Man in 15 years.
Spider-Man is awesome.... I'm just burned out on seeing the movies get momentum and then trip and fall hard on their face.
The best way to keep Spider-Man going right now would be in a supporting role in the MCU. It's hard to blame Marvel but in hindsight I think they really dropped the ball in not fighting to share the character in the first Avengers movie. It was in NYC... the least they could have done was a cameo to acknowledge his existence. They could have shelled out whatever to Sony and Sony would have realized they could bank on the character and not lift a finger. Idiots.
And shouldn't it be Spider-Kid?
Timey Wimey
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
I don't Wonder. I pray.
Underarm webbing,
black, not blue
Circular back spider and an assortment of non spandex fabrics.
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I don't Wonder. I pray.
Underarm webbing,
black, not blue
Circular back spider and an assortment of non spandex fabrics.
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Crazybug00
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Timey Wimey
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
I was hoping to start a conversation about Sony's play in the Spidey-Verse. Sony has mostly been "jokes about reboots" in conversations about spider-man or it's just been talk of how they should entirely give away the rights to disney. I've almost definitely said a lot of this before but I've always preferred Spider-Man over other superheroes, the Spidey films have always had a lot more potential in my eyes, Spider-Man 2 is my favorite super-hero film and I think it's a good thing Sony keeps rebooting. Disney Marvel has too much of a reputation now to be loose with the direction of a film. Looking back and re-watching films I only think 4.5 of the 11 films are especially noteworthy. This is mostly based on something Daniel O'Brien said in the Star Wars episode of the Cracked Podcast but films seem to be so sequel centric right now which is why we are so afraid of reboots. Wouldn't it be completely fine if we could get a Spider-Man film just as often from a completely different and unique visionary and have it just exist to make money once and be enjoyed once without becoming an empire of a universe?
Continuing the topic of costumes, do you think the new comic costume is anything worthy of the new film? It looks like a cross between both the Amazing Films and the very first costume.
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I was hoping to start a conversation about Sony's play in the Spidey-Verse. Sony has mostly been "jokes about reboots" in conversations about spider-man or it's just been talk of how they should entirely give away the rights to disney. I've almost definitely said a lot of this before but I've always preferred Spider-Man over other superheroes, the Spidey films have always had a lot more potential in my eyes, Spider-Man 2 is my favorite super-hero film and I think it's a good thing Sony keeps rebooting. Disney Marvel has too much of a reputation now to be loose with the direction of a film. Looking back and re-watching films I only think 4.5 of the 11 films are especially noteworthy. This is mostly based on something Daniel O'Brien said in the Star Wars episode of the Cracked Podcast but films seem to be so sequel centric right now which is why we are so afraid of reboots. Wouldn't it be completely fine if we could get a Spider-Man film just as often from a completely different and unique visionary and have it just exist to make money once and be enjoyed once without becoming an empire of a universe?
Continuing the topic of costumes, do you think the new comic costume is anything worthy of the new film? It looks like a cross between both the Amazing Films and the very first costume.
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crabra comander
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
It doesn't feel right to have something retread.the same stories and origins with different characters. Now give it a Decade and i can accept SOME rehashing. But anything else is just insulting the common viewer. If Marvel can tie all these movies together, WITH multiple characters and arcing stories, why can't Spidey?
And the new suit looks trash, IMO. Unless you liked turn off the lights glow in the dark spidey emblem.
It doesn't feel right to have something retread.the same stories and origins with different characters. Now give it a Decade and i can accept SOME rehashing. But anything else is just insulting the common viewer. If Marvel can tie all these movies together, WITH multiple characters and arcing stories, why can't Spidey?
And the new suit looks trash, IMO. Unless you liked turn off the lights glow in the dark spidey emblem.
Timey Wimey
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
That's probably true but it all depends on the viewers perspective and the creators willingness not to abuse this hypothetical world were movies are always remade and where remakes mean something else . I was still thinking about coherency but I am always thinking about movies as just alternate realities and all interpretations to be alternate alternate realities. I'm against inconsistency in films but It'd be great if anyone had the guts to break rules that have never been broken before for the sake of telling completely different, original and unique stories with some of the same people or aspects. When I think about it like real realities, I ask myself "why can't we make a Spidey movie with Maguire, Raimi & Simmons where it wasn't Mary Jane but was Gwen Stacy and where Doctor Octopus didn't die and had successfully become the superior Spider-Man" because in an infinity of alternate moments that did happen.
I just think a problem that Spidey has had was being under too much control and Marvel is no place to fix that. If Raimi wasn't constricted for Spider-Man 3 or if for the Amazing series there could be someone new to introduce new laws that don't contradict previously established ones then I'd very much prefer that.
As for the costume, I only dislike the belt and Spider. I very much like the webs and angularness. Don't know what I think about a Spider-Mobile though.
I personally very much want an MCU Spidey and I love the direction they're going but I want Sony to try (with some help) to make their own independent one.
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That's probably true but it all depends on the viewers perspective and the creators willingness not to abuse this hypothetical world were movies are always remade and where remakes mean something else . I was still thinking about coherency but I am always thinking about movies as just alternate realities and all interpretations to be alternate alternate realities. I'm against inconsistency in films but It'd be great if anyone had the guts to break rules that have never been broken before for the sake of telling completely different, original and unique stories with some of the same people or aspects. When I think about it like real realities, I ask myself "why can't we make a Spidey movie with Maguire, Raimi & Simmons where it wasn't Mary Jane but was Gwen Stacy and where Doctor Octopus didn't die and had successfully become the superior Spider-Man" because in an infinity of alternate moments that did happen.
I just think a problem that Spidey has had was being under too much control and Marvel is no place to fix that. If Raimi wasn't constricted for Spider-Man 3 or if for the Amazing series there could be someone new to introduce new laws that don't contradict previously established ones then I'd very much prefer that.
As for the costume, I only dislike the belt and Spider. I very much like the webs and angularness. Don't know what I think about a Spider-Mobile though.
I personally very much want an MCU Spidey and I love the direction they're going but I want Sony to try (with some help) to make their own independent one.
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maffhewdc
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
There's a suit already? Mind posting pics?
There's a suit already? Mind posting pics?
Timey Wimey
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
It's for the comics http://comicbook.com/2015/06/30/a-detailed-look-at-new-spider-man-costume-and-spider-mobile/
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It's for the comics http://comicbook.com/2015/06/30/a-detailed-look-at-new-spider-man-costume-and-spider-mobile/
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maffhewdc
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
Who knows, maybe they won't use it in the actual film. Unless Fiege said that they would.
Who knows, maybe they won't use it in the actual film. Unless Fiege said that they would.
harrisonp
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Timey Wimey
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
I only just realized the Spider illuminates. There is a lot wrong with this costume. I just need to see the back of it before I make a proper decision. Do the Boots go all the way up to the already high belt?
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I only just realized the Spider illuminates. There is a lot wrong with this costume. I just need to see the back of it before I make a proper decision. Do the Boots go all the way up to the already high belt?
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
Judging by Kevin Feige's past comment about this new Spidey costume being classic, I am sure they will stick to the original comic version. Though Amazing Spider-Man 2 suit got it right including the eyes, there is still room for improvement.
One big change I am thinking is that they will eliminate the raised webbing on the suit completely, which has become a standard look in the Spidey movies. But it isn't supposed to be that way, though it does look cool and reflects good on screen.
Judging by Kevin Feige's past comment about this new Spidey costume being classic, I am sure they will stick to the original comic version. Though Amazing Spider-Man 2 suit got it right including the eyes, there is still room for improvement.
One big change I am thinking is that they will eliminate the raised webbing on the suit completely, which has become a standard look in the Spidey movies. But it isn't supposed to be that way, though it does look cool and reflects good on screen.
crabra comander
Master Member
Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
Good to hear. I'm not sure about removing the raised webbing, it was a chore ti replicate though.
Good to hear. I'm not sure about removing the raised webbing, it was a chore ti replicate though.
Dessa
Sr Member
Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
Given your icon being from tokusatsu, and that you capitalized Decade, was that meant to be a reference to Kamen Rider Decade?
Given your icon being from tokusatsu, and that you capitalized Decade, was that meant to be a reference to Kamen Rider Decade?
crabra comander
Master Member
Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
No, sorry, just my tiny phone keyboard doing what it wants with punctuation.
Funnily enough, something geared for TV is a good example of something that could have a dozen reboots given the material. Kamen Rider is a good example, although I just watch it for the Splosions...but the basis for the show allows for constant reboots and revisions, just like Godzilla, DBZ, POwer Rangers, etc...As long as the character or theme stays relatively the same, the fans don't bat an eye. But when you're banking big name characters like this I expect more from the Hollywood execs.
No, sorry, just my tiny phone keyboard doing what it wants with punctuation.
Funnily enough, something geared for TV is a good example of something that could have a dozen reboots given the material. Kamen Rider is a good example, although I just watch it for the Splosions...but the basis for the show allows for constant reboots and revisions, just like Godzilla, DBZ, POwer Rangers, etc...As long as the character or theme stays relatively the same, the fans don't bat an eye. But when you're banking big name characters like this I expect more from the Hollywood execs.
Dessa
Sr Member
Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)
LOL. It could have easily been a reference, given that Decade's plot had him traveling to the worlds of the earlier Riders, but they weren't the same characters, even though they had the same Rider abilities.
But yeah, your post is exactly why I wish they'd use someone other than Peter Parker for the MCU movie, because at least it's not a new version of the same character.
LOL. It could have easily been a reference, given that Decade's plot had him traveling to the worlds of the earlier Riders, but they weren't the same characters, even though they had the same Rider abilities.
But yeah, your post is exactly why I wish they'd use someone other than Peter Parker for the MCU movie, because at least it's not a new version of the same character.
