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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)

I'm so glad they're casting young.
Have I said that before?
 
Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)

Why is it good he's a kid again? From personal experience it'd make me self loathe and look up to other SuperHeroes more than Spider-Man. I've officially decided I want the child of Andrew and Tobey's to mate with Christopher Daniel Barnes to create an Ultimate Spider-Man actor to play Spider-Man in the MCU. Then he'll have the genes of the best Petey, the Best Spidey and the best inner monologue voice... ey. That child will play Peter at University age and will have four years revolving around University, not school. It'll have no Girlfriends in the first two films and the conflicts and relationships will revolve around Flash, Ben and May. Meanwhile Sony will be doing there own Spidey thing until they come up with something good. This is not for the benefit of the MCU. No sir. I don't care if Spider-Man burns them to the ground! This is for me. For the Spider-Fans. For the people!


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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)

while i like the casting young i do hope they arent going with an actor that is too young.
 
Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)

I think young is good. I'd also like to see more awkward high school arcs from him.

It's why I didn't like Garfield (though it sounds like most here preferred him). He did a fine job acting the script he was given, but he was not the awkward outsider.

Ultimately though, I'm glad marvel is involved. In the last decade it's become harder and harder to have faith in anything Sony does.
 
Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)

Not sure if this is old news, but Gawker has some apparent leaked requirements for Spidey's movie portrayal between Sony and Marvel.

Although I'm not sure where Gawker gets their "Spidey can't be black" from (it only says that PETER has to be Caucasian), and I don't exactly agree with their interpretation of the requirements, either.
 
Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)

"Can't be black" and "has to be white" are essentially saying the same thing though.
 
Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)

Dessa said:
Not sure if this is old news, but Gawker has some apparent leaked requirements for Spidey's movie portrayal between Sony and Marvel.

Although I'm not sure where Gawker gets their "Spidey can't be black" from (it only says that PETER has to be Caucasian), and I don't exactly agree with their interpretation of the requirements, either.
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Spider-Man Can't Be Gay or Black

Gawker's interpretation of the list is awful and the writer clearly has no understanding of the character nor his comic lore. Yes, Peter Parker is a dweeb and though Spider-Man is awesome & cool, he is also at times a dork as he is after all an extension of Parker's personality.

And it's that underdog aspect of Peter/Spider-Man's character that has appealed to fans for so many years. And though I have no qualms about it, Spider-Man doesn't do recreational drugs, get over it.

He says "Why are the Spider-Man movies so bad?" Gee, Raimi's two Spidey movies are pretty damn good, especially the second one. Even the first Amazing Spider-Man has its share of merits.

Also no where in the list of character traits for Spider-Man it's mentioned that Spider-Man has be to white or that he can't be black. But Peter is white and heterosexual.

They stated "Spider-Man is not a homosexual (unless Marvel has portrayed that alter ego as a homosexual)".

These Spider-Man traits are not just confined to Peter, but to other possible alternative Spider-Man characters if they choose to explore that in the future. So like Miles Morales they can choose to introduce a Spider-Man with another alter ego having a different ethnicity or sexuality especially if they have done so in the comics too.

For Peter's possible love interest dynamic to work with his known supporting characters, him being heterosexual comes into play and is vital. Whether it's the early days with Betty Brant, Liz Allan or the more known Gwen Stacy, Mary Jane Watson or even Felicia Hardy.

This list was given to Sony in 2011 and is still very much applicable for any current movie adaptation of the character.

The one thing that is odd in the list is "Peter gains his powers while attending either middle school or college". Most iterations of the character show him gaining his powers during high school. The only reason they could mention college is if they want to eliminate the origin story phase during high school, but this is about the time he gained his powers, so origin during college again seems puzzling.

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Devin gets it.
 
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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)

glunark said:
"Can't be black" and "has to be white" are essentially saying the same thing though.
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Read the two again. Gawker says "Spider-Man" can't be black. Marvel's guidelines say that PETER PARKER can't be black. Nothing about any non-Peter Parker being black (note that this was before Miles Morales was in the comics, but was probably already in development).

Vivek said:
Lots of stuff I totally agree with, but especially these parts:
Also no where in the list of character traits for Spider-Man it's mentioned that Spider-Man has be to white or that he can't be black. But Peter is white and heterosexual.

They stated "Spider-Man is not a homosexual (unless Marvel has portrayed that alter ego as a homosexual)".

These Spider-Man traits are not just confined to Peter, but to other possible alternative Spider-Man characters if they choose to explore that in the future. So like Miles Morales they can choose to introduce a Spider-Man with another alter ego having a different ethnicity or sexuality especially if they have done so in the comics too.

This list was given to Sony in 2011 and is still very much applicable for any current movie adaptation of the character.

The one thing that is odd in the list is "Peter gains his powers while attending either middle school or college". Most iterations of the character show him gaining his powers during high school. The only reason they could mention college is if they want to eliminate the origin story phase during high school, but this is about the time he gained his powers, so origin during college again seems puzzling.
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A lot of people in the comments were ripping the author a new one over some of this stuff, and pointing out that he got it wrong on the "Spidey can't be black" part, and that it basically boils down to "You can't do anything that doesn't have some sort of basis in the comics" or "Marvel gets to do it first".

They also think that the "middle school" part is an error and it was meant to say "high school".
 
Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)

Here are some recent pics of Tom Holland. One from Feb 2014 and another more recent June 2015 photo, a non-nerdy version (especially for those who don't even know what Peter Parker represents in the comics).

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Re: New Spider-Man Movie in MCU (July 28, 2017)

Hmm. Don't see the huge MOLE he had on his chin originally. Glad he had it removed, as I was having an Austin Powers moment when I first heard the news. Can't say I'm too excited. I was really pulling for Asa Butterfield.
 
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