Scratch-built SS life boat.....(Escape Pod)

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  1. 3d-builder

    3d-builder Sr Member

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    I was watching Jase busting his hump trying to get
    this thing going about a month ago. I said to him maybe
    I can help you out with the project, he was kind enough
    to send me a few of the paint buckets. Now I am just waiting
    on some dimensions.....so we can start to tinker around.
    I like the life boat it looks Sci/Fi and real space at the same time
    and it's just an amazing piece to have in ones collection.

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  2. jawsmodels

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  3. 3d-builder

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    I don't see it there ......:lol I am missing something....?
     
  4. 3d-builder

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    Anyway I put some evergreen strip around the top
    just below that 2nd lip and scribed it off.
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    I have exactly 182mm all the way around.....?
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  5. jawsmodels

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    Michael sorry my computer crashed when I was trying to upload the measurements :behave
    Heres a link to the page at the site CR-90 Escape Pod
    and heres the measurements I got sizing that grey scale up to kit parts.
    Everything seemed to fit pretty much perfect.
    You did what I thought the first time also :rolleyes
    Its 170mm for the lower pod section then 24mm for the rockets section making it 195mm.
    You just cut off the rocket section :lol

    If you look in the bottom of the bucket you see a circular indentation.
    It is the perfect size at 142mm for the rocket section.
    I believe they cut the foam on the anglge to that indentation forming the smaller rocket section.
     
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  6. joewhite

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    Michael or Jase,
    Do you have the link to where I can order these buckets?

    EDIT: I found them...

    Joe
     
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  7. ralphee

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    Doing it old school, very nice, lovely model to look at this one.
    You kit bashing, or going accurate on this one Michael? Be perfect for Jason and Mikes proposed Sealab castings.

    Lee
     
  8. 3d-builder

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    Thanks for that Jase I will figure it out.
     
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  9. 3d-builder

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    I am just trying to make the body Lee.....i think Jase has
    spent a ton on parts.
     
  10. 3d-builder

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    Jase I need he height of.....

    The second stage: (I don't need it's upward taper in the measurement just it's vertical height)

    The Diameter of the top cap : (That will allow me to figure out the taper of the second stage)

    The Height of the top cap: (just the ring section)
    Thanks....:thumbsup

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  11. 3d-builder

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    Fill bucket with ultracal30, hope it doesn't melt the * thing, then cook for 2 hrs @ 170deg......and call me in the morning!

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  12. asemblyrequired

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    another thread that continues to make the RPF great . This is one I want to build one day.

    -James
     
  13. IEDBOUNTYHUNTER

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    Thats the craziest looking Turkey ive ever seen.
     
  14. jawsmodels

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    The height measurements for each section run down the centre of the PDF.
    The Diameters for each section are on the PDF also.
    Print the PDF out to 194% & you will have a working drawaing.
    It worked for me :)
     
  15. Ray22

    Ray22 Sr Member

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    Poor little A-Wing sitting there unfinished :cryLol. Finish me Mike, finish Me.....you guys here that?
     
  16. jawsmodels

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    Stuff the little one. Rebuild the SS Masters Mike.
    Anyway, how went the bake?
     
  17. 3d-builder

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    The bake was good, I managed to delete the pics i had off my camera.....
    while raking pictures of my grandson! LOL
     
  18. jaybible

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    Raking pictures? I hope your grandson wasnt watching:p... Looking forward to seeing some new pics(hopefully non-raked) This is a pretty * interesting build.. I shall be subbing:)
     
  19. 3d-builder

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    Working on the second stage .......waiting on my
    clay.
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  20. Jedi Dade

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    OK - I'm a little confused... Wy is it you need a solid plaster cast of the inside of the bucket? I'm obviously missing something here :confused

    Jedi Dade
     
  21. 3d-builder

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    Your not missing anything......I didn't vacuum form it yet.
    If it works out I am going to be selling the parts....."If it
    works out"

    :) Ya Mon
     
  22. asemblyrequired

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    3D is such a smart man.

    I'll give you some fictional rep. points for that.


    -james
     
  23. IEDBOUNTYHUNTER

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    Hey Ill take a set of pulls when your Done.


    Al
     
  24. moffeaton

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    I am so effing IN.

    Will hook you up with Sealab castings, Mon!
     
  25. ralphee

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    Id be in, would be nice for it to tie in with J's Sealab parts kit?

    lee
     
  26. moffeaton

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    Great minds thinking alike!
     
  27. Apophis

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    Mike that is an awesome idea dood!!
     
  28. 3d-builder

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  29. IEDBOUNTYHUNTER

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    Looking good, patterns should last a life time. so hurry up with my Pulls.
     
  30. qcfoundry

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    Very interested how the "sections" will be attached together and stay strong enough for lifting at the very "nose" of the pod.

    In addtion, the boundary between each section has a very sharp edge, which vacuforming doesn't provide very well unless you execute the edge via sanding.
    cCan you share with us how you're going to accomplish that aspect, or are you getting close to that step and will be showing us?
     
  31. 3d-builder

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    Well each section except the big one, can be formed top to bottom or bottom to top. So each section will have an entire top or bottom to glue to....well that's the plan. As far as the crispness well lets just see how it comes out
    on the edges ......I don't know yet i cant tell you that until i see it. It's going to be in 6 separate parts right now. It might need some sanding before I sell any i will have pictures so you guys can decide.:thumbsup My goal was to try to help Jase out and come up with one for myself.....I don't plan on getting rich off them, if you guys like what you see then i can make the parts.:thumbsup

    Regards,
    Michael
     
  32. Apophis

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    I just might be up for that Mike!!
     
  33. 3d-builder

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    The clay is in there for this stage but needs to be sanded,
    it has to be much shearer.
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  34. IEDBOUNTYHUNTER

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    Nice. Love the size.
     
  35. Scott Graham

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    Looking good. I like your approach to this. It might be nice to have pulls made to go with some kit parts cast to make our own. Good idea! Thanks for sharing.
     
  36. 3d-builder

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    Thanks guys moving along.....:thumbsup
    couple of small pit holes to fill on the top section.
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  37. yuumi2891103

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    Wow, I haven't known you've been tackling another lady !


    Go ahead, Michael !!
     
  38. Apophis

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    Always liked your work and how you approach your work ! Great job Mike!
     
  39. Ray22

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    Mike is BIG time, Go Mike! Lol.
     
  40. jawsmodels

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    I might speak with Mike Salzo & see if he'd be interested in producing a parts set from my parts. Theres only a couple of parts unidentified so if everyone got back on the id thread & nail them I'll put the parts up for casting.
    Nice work Michael.
    Its looking good mate. I better get back to my build soon...
     
  41. Jedi Dade

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    Awesome! If its not too carzy expensive I'm in :)
     
  42. joewhite

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    *, Mike stole my idea! :D

    I just received my buckets. After I finish my Claptrap master, I was going to foam up my buckets and start on the laser cut skin. Since Mike will be potentially offering this (I think?), I can go back to my snail pace of building. Hehe!

    BTW, looking good Mike!

    Joe
     
  43. 3d-builder

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    I was able to combine these two sections......it's a pretty tall part
    and just made it with the size plastic i have for this former. Actually
    the plastic pulled away from the frame when i set it down! Al thanks for the
    wax tip worked well later for me!:thumbsup
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    I cut the top out to help it release later after the sanding....
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    Sanding the very top stage to sharpen it up......the black plastic is nice
    because as you sand it it tells you where you miss.......anything shinny
    and black you missed or have a low spot.I didnt have many low spots....:thumbsup Then i sanded the lower stage up into the top
    until it was sharp.
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    Inside....
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    For the bottom of this section I cut a piece of 3mm and just taped it for now.....later i am thinking I can drill a hole and run the armature through sections like this.
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    This is another buck i made just wood laminated with 3mm styrene
    to make the height. It will be the ring that separates this stage from the main stage once its vacuum formed.
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    Mock up......
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  44. qcfoundry

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    looking very slick.
    remind me, what thickness plate are you pulling?
     
  45. 3d-builder

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    I cant form the main body until i make a larger former, I need at least 4inches of plastic from the edge of the frame to the pattern. currently i only have less than two, and that proved to be close on the part I pulled above!
     
  46. 3d-builder

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    Hey Quinc its 3mm high impact poly i am using.
    i wish i would have saved the big former i made
    for the A-wing! It was getting ratty but would
    have got me through this!:behave
     
  47. qcfoundry

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    3mm is nice and thick...what was the final thickness after you pulled it?

    what thickness will you pull over the taller/lower form? -- its going to get pretty thin considering the length of pull (maybe start out even thicker than 3mm?). sounds pretty tricky!
     
  48. 3d-builder

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    Dimension wise its going to be off here and there .......i forgot
    to adjust for the forming and plastic thickness. I will hit the height
    though as most parts are a bit tall and can be dialed in. Anyway
    it will make a nice display once i get around the main body section,
    it's done challenge wise for me after that!:lol:thumbsup
     
  49. 3d-builder

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    It will be tricky thats for sure......:lol

    Yea that traveled a good distance for that part
    i posted today, i ended up with around just over
    1mm. With a bigger frame holding more plastic i
    could have been around 1.5 i think. When i make
    the new former i will form all the parts on that
    one. 1mm still is ok because of the 3mm disk that
    goes on the bottom, and the top stage was formed
    to the lower making it very strong up there.

    I may need thicker for the lower part not sure yet?
     
  50. ralphee

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    Great work Micheal, looking very nice, sharpening that edge worked a treat!

    lee
     

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