Scammer , recaster warning : latest alias Loganprops, recent alias Snikt Shop
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Jango Wes
Sr Member
Let him use whatever he wants. I've seen no less than 10 posts regarding him and all the hooplah and not one comment has been positive. If anyone goes to him now, that's on them. Let them get ripped off, we are doing our part.
I'd still like to see something tangible that BitS is trying to distance themselves from him.
I'd still like to see something tangible that BitS is trying to distance themselves from him.
What's crazy is, I don't think I've ever seen him deny taking money and not delivering product. Ever. His supporters seem to forget (or forgive) that point. I've also never seen him offer an apology of any sort, and only recently have I seen him outright admitting that he has a lot of orders that are still not completed.
I think what really puts it over the top for a lot of people is his jet-setting. When he's posting about flying from LA to Florida and back practically once a month or so, going to these cons and making paying appearances, you know ****'s not getting done... People see all of that, know what it costs to travel and stay out-of-town (even if you're crashing on a couch)... The only work-in-progress pictures I've seen have been for the newest 'cool' props that he's around or working on. I get that you have to have funds coming in currently to survive, but using that as a crutch or an excuse is bull**** when you're flying all over the place and playing to crowds.
There is NO WAY any reputable company would work with him at this point, no matter what he claims. Smaller businesses aren't going to risk getting blacklisting just to have him around, and major organizations aren't going to hire him because of his business and work ethics.
Nevermind the fact that, although he may have put out a couple of nice pieces of his own in the past, he's JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH. That's not even a dig on him, it's just a simple fact. Selling some Rubies Wolverine claws does not get you a job at ILM, just as going to community college for video gaming does not guarantee you a position at Rockstar North or Naughty Dog.
ilikecomicstoo
New Member
Right. Especially given that the fine folks at Marvel, the company that owns the license to most of these characters, are also spreading the word.
https://twitter.com/ArtForStrangers/status/529677926632259585
https://twitter.com/lorrainecink
jrenemtz321
Sr Member
I remember when he got the C&D from Marvel last year. And he just continued making and selling, lol.
That is awesome.
IIRC, I thought that was just another line of B.S. perpetrated by him anyways. He had been originally saying that people needed to stop calling him out publicly because it might cause him to get a cease and desist from Marvel, and that would mean he would not 'legally' be able to finish those commissions. Then, low and behold when people didn't let up, this 'cease and desist' appeared?
That logic is so incredibly ass-backward and conceited anyways, essentially saying 'quiet down about all of this or Marvel will get me and nobody will get their stuff!' Really? You know what Marvel won't give you a hard time about at all? REFUNDING PEOPLE THEIR MONEY. So there it is. Tomorrow is the 18th anniversary of this thread's start (somebody bake a cake for RMX :lol), and guess how many people have been refunded? Anybody that's gotten a refund can feel free to chime in right now. I'll be over here with the crickets. :unsure
That logic is so incredibly ass-backward and conceited anyways, essentially saying 'quiet down about all of this or Marvel will get me and nobody will get their stuff!' Really? You know what Marvel won't give you a hard time about at all? REFUNDING PEOPLE THEIR MONEY. So there it is. Tomorrow is the 18th anniversary of this thread's start (somebody bake a cake for RMX :lol), and guess how many people have been refunded? Anybody that's gotten a refund can feel free to chime in right now. I'll be over here with the crickets. :unsure
Yeah!!! Cake!
Yes, Winate has supporters.
Sometimes, its hard for people to admit that they were wrong to invest time and effort in believing in something or someone.
Just an opinion.
i think he can tag #logangate all he wants. If he wants to add more fuel to his own fire, all the better.
If people still wants to send him $, after all the negative publicity; well...., you can't fix stupid.
So, cut off the $ coming in, you cut off loganprops, "jim logan".....aka....
Now,
don't let this scum influence or impede you in enjoying your life.
Go out with friends, take your significant other out for a nice dinner (like i did)
A lot of good has been done, especially within this week.
again, huge thank you for all the support.
Yes, Winate has supporters.
Sometimes, its hard for people to admit that they were wrong to invest time and effort in believing in something or someone.
Just an opinion.
i think he can tag #logangate all he wants. If he wants to add more fuel to his own fire, all the better.
If people still wants to send him $, after all the negative publicity; well...., you can't fix stupid.
So, cut off the $ coming in, you cut off loganprops, "jim logan".....aka....
Now,
don't let this scum influence or impede you in enjoying your life.
Go out with friends, take your significant other out for a nice dinner (like i did)
A lot of good has been done, especially within this week.
again, huge thank you for all the support.
Scotophor
Active Member
Just who are his fans/supporters, anyway? Other scammers? Fellow recasters? Sock puppets? Does he have actual satisfied repeat customers who are not known "big names" in the community/industry?
Shiromisa
New Member
Made an account just to post this--hi! The first thing that jumped out at me was, iirc, wasn't there someone linked in the ilikecomicstoo post who was stiffed a male Wonder Woman armor set? Hmmmm... :/
Rina
New Member
I've been following this thread since June because i too made the mistake of ordering from "Jim". As someone new to costuming who wanted to try a Winter Soldier build, I contacted him through Etsy in May to ask about the cybernetic arm he had for sale. The response was quick and polite, saying that he was working on a female version that would be for sale soon. After discussing price and when i needed the arm by (I specified the beginning of August), I sent him the money through PayPay. $150. Now I know that was naive, but I had never had a problem dealing with anyone through Etsy before.
Flash forward to the beginning of July and I haven't heard anything from him - and he had said that he had some of these arms that were due in July so I started to wonder and then did what I should have done in the first place and googled him. After reading the the article on DeviantArt and this forum I felt sick. Tried to contact him and nothing. Put a dispute in with PayPal and got an almost immediate rant back on how ridiculous it was to do that. I'll admit it, I'm not a confrontational person so I backed off as he swore that I would have my arm by August.
Well, August comes along and I message him again, asking for an update. He responds back with 'What con is this for' Apparently going to FanExpo wasn't enough incentive for him to finish my work (or even start it I'm sure) as he is busy working on things for DragonCon - hope some of those people actually got their props.
It's been no contact with him since September so I did manage to get my money back from the credit card company. I have to say that seeing this blow up in his face had brought joy to my poor shriveled heart! Oh and even better, i gave it a try and using Pint Sized Fett's arm build tutorial here and a lot of help from the husband and friends, made myself an arm for the con.
He's never going to change but at least this time he's going to hopefully lose what business he has.
Flash forward to the beginning of July and I haven't heard anything from him - and he had said that he had some of these arms that were due in July so I started to wonder and then did what I should have done in the first place and googled him. After reading the the article on DeviantArt and this forum I felt sick. Tried to contact him and nothing. Put a dispute in with PayPal and got an almost immediate rant back on how ridiculous it was to do that. I'll admit it, I'm not a confrontational person so I backed off as he swore that I would have my arm by August.
Well, August comes along and I message him again, asking for an update. He responds back with 'What con is this for' Apparently going to FanExpo wasn't enough incentive for him to finish my work (or even start it I'm sure) as he is busy working on things for DragonCon - hope some of those people actually got their props.
It's been no contact with him since September so I did manage to get my money back from the credit card company. I have to say that seeing this blow up in his face had brought joy to my poor shriveled heart! Oh and even better, i gave it a try and using Pint Sized Fett's arm build tutorial here and a lot of help from the husband and friends, made myself an arm for the con.
He's never going to change but at least this time he's going to hopefully lose what business he has.
OldSkoolEffects
Well-Known Member
I've actually met people that support him IRL, and from my experience, they never seem to be all there, if you get my drift.
He just posted this a few minutes ago
https://www.facebook.com/loganprops/posts/797277246998837
In case he decides to delete it, here is the body. And it is a DOOZY. I especially like how he opens with wanting to make it short. UMMMMM.......
Going to try and make this short because after all...I am working. Also, going to try to keep this in the realm of my prop work, though it's pretty obvious this big monster is running various layers.
The past few days have been very interesting. It seems a customer was not happy with the progress of their order, rather than work out the issue between the two people that can actually come to a resolution/solution She felt the need to blast it on the interweb. I never did understand this method....as if some random people on the internet are going to solve our problem for us? I don't get it. It's very interesting thing , I have had customers who waited longer than anyone. Though upset they had worked with me privately and sorted it out over time like adults, with a chunk of patience along with some understanding on both ends and an appreciation of that patience on my part we reached positive outcomes. Though he lives across the country, one of these clients I now consider one of my best friends as our relationship grew from the business experience we had gone through, the ups and downs, go figure!
Considering my unique position in between the prop work and entertainment aspects of the interwebs this was of course very easy to roll with and snow ball. The internet, as we know, thrives on controversy and hate, even if it takes some flat out lies or fake stories to get your jollies (see your FB news feed) ....or your clicks/hits/likes. Cue the Angry mob, some with legit complaints - YES (You will find I am a broken record on that note, it seems no matter how many times I admit my flaws or where I screw up, people just love pointing it out as if I am hiding it). With a pool of Truths (yes), half truths, and flat out fake posts and lies, we have ourselves a beast!
Oh Wait! Before I continue and forget! GUYS! It does not say "Jim Logan" on my birth certificate! AHHHH You have been had! OH OH and I have a mug shot!!!! AHHH! Thanks for sharing it along the likes of Iron Man himself! Wanna see? You can find it on a website that states "No claims to the accuracy of this information are made..." and a little bit of "people featured on this site may not of been convicted of the charges or crimes listed and are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Do not rely on this site to determine factual criminal records. " With out going into the story, "resisting arrest" it says... you are damn right, I felt wrongfully accused SO I FOUGHT back. Still not sure how this mug shot is related to prop making or cosplay, but damn it looks good on the cover of the story, no? Anyways, back to subject....The epic article about me.
After a short time it seemed that this was more about the attention and less the actual order. Again, I do not understand this method..... if there is in fact an issue, if not through me, go through paypal, your bank, or whatever the proper channel is. There is no "scam" I can really pull here, if you paid money for something and are not ever getting it, there IS a way to get your money back...makes me question what you reallllyyyy want here? As I told the girl directly, she would get more hits on her little blog than ever before...it shut down her server. The unknown blog thing was up to 100s of thousands of hits, I kept reading "go check it out", "go sign up", Follow me on twitter! Along with constant updates to #logangate ( I like it) to keep the public interested, involved, and of course clicking. You know you could have just showed some cleavage and "made it" like some of the other cosplay girls, but hey.....In other lines of work I have been preaching for the past few years that controversy, drama, hate, and negative things = ratings... attention...and ultimately money. So thanks for the boost and launching me to the next step of my business plans prematurely....and you are welcome.
"Unfortunately" many have jumped on the band wagon (this is supposed to be unfortunate for me right?) Again, there are people with legit complaints, but there are also people jumping into the crowd when they have no idea what is going on...or even what "cosplay" is. I even had one guy tell me that I was using an image of someone else's on this page. Claiming my cable picture was a scam... "you did not make a thing on that costume, that cosplayer makes all his own stuff!" - The picture was me in my costume! AHH! It gets good, from "I just don't like the guy" and "he seems like a ******" to "he groped me at Dragon Con" ...and convention I had never attended! AHH! along with SOME (NOT ALL, let me be clear) people flat out making up orders they never received. I know my work better than anyone, and my orders and I am reading things and I knowww I never agreed to do any work like that, let alone took money for it. Anything to get in on the act right? To feel like part of something? I have to say, this is not far off with some of the ideas I have had to manipulate the internet for attention/increase business, I do admire it...that is not sarcasm.
The most common thing people are asking, random people for the most part, is....why is this guy not in jail? Well, I ask you the same thing.... is it because I am a sly slippery snake of an international terroristic criminal genius!? or ......................? Oh right, the obvious, less entertaining and thought provoking answer.
If being behind on my work makes me a criminal I would be serving a few life sentences! Not sure if it makes me a "Felon" "**********" "Pedophile" "dog beater" "Rapist" "abuser of women" "****tard" "piece of ****" "scam artist" "retard" and the countless other random insults and attacks I have received over the past few days from random people. There is also the classic threats to physically cause harm to me and even my friends, girlfriend, and dog! All thanks to Marlene's article, hrm.
I have even had friends join in, people I thought were friends anyways. That title was easily disposed of in some counts for obvious reasons. The people close to me know the man, not the monster WE have all created here on the internet, the one you can't stop watching, reading, and talking about...hrm. The thing that has hurt me most thus far was when two guys I had worked with on the entertainment end of things at a convention jumped on this. I feel I went above and beyond for them and what I considered to be OUR project and I considered them my friends. As you will find with most events I work, I do the flyers, hire extra performers on my own dime, etc etc....if I am involved, it's mine too and I want to make it the best I can. This dates back years to the wrestling business, if you have known me that long...you will know that any wrestling show I was on did not have a bad flyer! Anyways, I was upset that (after seeing the insane attention this has gotten) they would jump on this to generate interest in their radio show, going as far as to telling flat out lies about me abusing my position behind the mic. I guess they forgot that I have the entire event on film, that there were other people there..it was one room, they paid me upon finishing the work, and that they approved of my performance both verbally and in a series of messages.....I have never abused the utter privilege and honor of standing above everyone else with a microphone and never would, it's the most humbling thing in the world to me. ...but we all know what my word is worth.... Ultimately, I was asked to appear on their radio show....well played, as they say.
People ask me why I don't defend myself....well, I don't have to. All I have to do is keep working, catch up, and do all my other snikty things. You think responding to every loser on a message board is going to fix their need for things like this? fix anything? Or give me more time to work?! It's all theirs.... if you spend your day talking about Jim Logan, well..what does that say about you? Like clockwork, every time there is a wave of **** like this, more work comes in. However people see my work, it seems they want to buy it. Only this time I am turning away the orders rather than taking a bunch more and ending up further behind, I will get to that later.
Apparently there are many defending me though? blasphemy! The "haters" are all flustered by this notion. HOW CAN ANYONE Defend me!? I don't think I need to respond to that, the very existence and actions of these people taking it upon themselves to speak out says enough. I did hear I had them all drinking some kind of kool aid though, must be since they are not saying things you want to hear.
All this stuff is not new, it has been going on for a few years....has not slowed me down yet, but this is the largest scale to date. It all started when I got into the entertainment end, wait...you can't be a "geek" person, make props, have awesome hair , and be THAT GUY! get back in the basement and stay away from the boobies!!! Okay, maybe that was a bit much. As it has been in the past, when someone DOES defend me, support me, or try any sort of reasoning it seems their comments/words are deleted. Wouldn't want to disrupt our momentum or cause! Yes, I do stalk these forums and such and have others working with me to make sure we document all of this before deleted.
Getting off topic, let me refresh! Make no mistake, I am VERY behind on my work, admittingly and...very publicly as it has been stated on this page many times. Oh man do I suck at secretary too! Sometimes I can't justify sitting at the comp and typing (yes I know here I am) when there is work to be done. Wrong or right, that is how I am and probably need people for the rest. I find that the only RIGHT answer to a customers inquiry or concerns is the moment they open their box, not me telling them "it's coming" or "soon" or some other customer service line. Yes, I know...that's not how it's supposed to work but that's how I am wired.
The same people that cry out for me to stop whatever it is I am doing and call for my lynching are the same people overlooking that ..small...little detail, that you are fighting for something that was done months ago...I repeat, I have cut off orders for cosplayers and collectors as of August 1st.
As announced I am shooting to be CAUGHT up and done with this "community" by the new year. ...and YES, if I have a professional project deadline for company or studio that will always get bumped ahead of cosplay orders.... and YES, any actual customer who felt it necessary to attack me online in some kind of twisted attempt to satisfy the issue, attack me PERSONALLY that is - I have put them at the end of the line and told them so. As I say, I am not wal-mart or Denny's..... if you are a ***** to me and cross certain lines, I am not bumping you ahead of the people who have been waiting patiently. I will stand my ground and keep my pride in tact, no matter how bad you try to make it for me...you are last.
I also want to ask an important question as I have seen this go on as I go through this repetition of falling behind and catching up. To the small percentage of customers who have cried out and attacked me on the internet saying it was a scam or they were ripped off, as in you paid and will never get your item. What happens when you get it? as some of you have. Do you put the same amount of energy in correcting your public statements as you have throwing out the ridiculous accusations? I doubt it, it stays there on the interwebs doesn't it? not that it would matter much...if it's there for 5 minutes, the damage is done. Just wondering really....I always say - behind or not all orders will be filled. I know that is not very interesting and requires some patience for all of us...and trust, but how can you trust a "CRRIMINALLLL" !?
The decision to stop making fan items is not new, it was made and announced months ago, but Since I have an entire new following as of late, let me remind the hoomans what had brought me to this decision....
One....
I am CRAZY behind, by about 100 orders. I want to make everything for everyone but sometimes forget about the whole time thing and factor in other aspects of my hectic life. In the past few years I have bit off WAY more than I can chew as far as work load, If that makes makes me a criminal... see above. Obviously if there are less orders coming in that is more time to do the existing orders....damn me to hell for being in such demand. Or maybe I just charmed and swindled people into buying the things that I make? hrm.
Two...
I want a lot of money like every one else, I have been struggling for years trying to make my passions into my work. It has it's ups and downs but you will never find me working for the "man". However, this prop stuff....I got a lot of practice, learned a lot, got my name out there (LOL), but making pieces based on copyright characters has it's limits....and risks. There is a glass ceiling, you can only make so much money before you are rubbing whoever owns these characters the wrong way. So it's time to move on, in the past year I have done some really cool for for music videos, studios, youtube stuff is becoming a big market now, even a film, and other various companies that don't put me in that gray area of copyright law. I hope my skills can take me even further, though my chips are not all in the prop making thing, I know my limits as far as my knowledge and skills.
Three...
THE DRAMA, the need to write this and all that is going on is case in point. If you fall behind, **** if you look like a doucher, you ARE be a criminal! a "scammer" is the word! I don't think I need to get into this but I have to say that I know this fine gentleman from overseas, does great work. I see he is falling behind as well, and people have jumped to the "Scammer" attacks on him, blows my mind. You ever think that you are not the only one we are making things for? My "reputation" for being a bad boy or whatever is part of my game and the drama is expected every time I go against the grain, even welcomed.....but this guy, my example here is not like me in that area and it disgusts me to see people saying such things about another artist whom I look up to and respect, who has been nothing but a gentleman to myself and his clients.
I see some claims that this 3 month old and repetitive announcement is a "lie"...............them business strategies. Remember that time Wal-Mart put a sign out front saying "CLOSED" and they were banking on some kind of secret business coming in still?! It seems everything I say or do must be underhanded in some sort of way. Which leads me to....
What do these people want? These people as is the straight haters, not customers for the most part. Do they want me to take the necessary steps to make this right and catch up on my work? do they want a solution? a positive out come? Apparently not. Do they want me in jail? maybe dead? yes, probably...but then your evenings would be boring, no? The way you go after my loved ones tells me cold and alone in the dessert would do too, you want my dog's email also?
Winding down here, I want to point out / debunk a few things before I split.
Things like the "BBB" - Do you know that I can report you...yes you, reading this now to the BBB. They will make a file on you and what not and it will show up in google. They might even put your home address like they did me. Oh, you want this thing taken down? You just have to pay our membership fee. Well then....
IamYourHeroes.com /Entertainment work - IamYourheroes does not sell props, it's to display the work I do in costume, as well as the others who work with me at times. I see people playing the "he is a drunk" he is always in the bar partying when he should be working, spending all the customers money! ahhh!!! Now, I know it's hard for the average mundane person to grasp but If I am drinking, odds are I am on the clock. It is just as much my job to drink, dance around like a fool, get gropped, make loud noises into a mic, work the crowd, and shoot shots into people's mouths with a water gun as it is for you to do...whatever it is you hate doing at 9am. Be mad that I am behind on my prop work - okay, but going after all of my other work? How about I call your job at the cable company and start telling them you make awful coffee, that you are a ****** and a criminal with the intent to get you fired? hrm.
Attacking people close to me - get real....whatever it is you want you are not going to get it by attacking those I care for or threatening them or their business' ...also if you think you are going to scare everyone and everything away from the big bad claw man, you are wrong. Like I said, the people close to me know the man...not the character that you love, or love to hate.
He thinks he is really Wolverine - ...................................................................................................................................................................... Okay, well... if all else fails lets try this? You now when I first started this costume stuff people all called me gay pointing out that I wore makeup to back it up. I guess that worked until all them girls were jumping on that adamantium, like your girlfriend and or wife at times? oh, yeah....ee...sorry.
All of my work is stolen, I don't make anything myself - I think my dot key is broken.... LOL.
Also, I want to suggest that...if you have your own Prop or costume making thing going (I use the term loosely) or any kind of work for that matter. Filling up your pages with memes or hate for me, anyone, or anything else really but your work is pretty pathetic....your work just doesn't do it for people? does it? they make pills for that. Again, whatever gets your clicks.
We see it every day in out news feeds, not just the subject of myself...but People put soo much energy into bringing someone or something down rather than lifting themselves up, it's just easier. In my case and even in general, most of these people have no business with what they are raging about or even know what's going on.... but, internet. Maybe you should put half that energy into doing something good, maybe use it at a gym, or to take care of your kids?
Blah Blah Blah.....Well, here is the link....
http://www.ilikecomicstoo.com/jim-logan-props/
Feel free to read it all....
Now if you follow this page and my instragram of course you can compare that to the constant work in progress and the hundreds of people here...in images, not type , wearing items that I have made for them....that they have received from me.
You can even leave a comment if you would like. Of course, as mentioned any positive or supportive comments for the damned will end up deleted and dismissed to keep the show on track.
Why would I share this? For one, I have nothing to hide....most of the people involved in this madness do a fine job of making themselves look stupid, especially those who are not clients or customers of mine, but pitchforks are cool! Two, There is no one to scare away...you are trying to keep the cosplay community from ordering when I have announced months ago that I am not taking such orders. Besides my reputation outside of the tiny cosplay community is actually very good, you know in real life..with out costumes.
This is not a "witch hunt" or whatever people are putting into my mouth, I am right here, I am behind on my work, and some people are not happy about it - and repeat. The notion that I have ever ran or hid is ridiculous, I am not hard to find...this is the internet, hell...MY FACE is on flyers for various events, interesting hiding tactic? The idea that I move or change names as some diabolical plan to run from something is absurd, my baggage comes with me, it makes me ..me. Remember, these crazy speculations about the super complex dastardly plans I have done or am going to do...these ideas, they are out of your twisted brain, not mine. Now, the super intelligent hater hoomans will deem this as victimizing myself and whining, because I should just shut up and let them have their monster..ah, my #1 fans. First to watch, First to click, First to discuss the Jim Logan.
I guess it was not short...anyways - Most importantly, I have always stuck by my work and my name....for better or worse, it's all on me and I would not have it any other way.
As always, thank you for snikting.
https://www.facebook.com/loganprops/posts/797277246998837
In case he decides to delete it, here is the body. And it is a DOOZY. I especially like how he opens with wanting to make it short. UMMMMM.......
Going to try and make this short because after all...I am working. Also, going to try to keep this in the realm of my prop work, though it's pretty obvious this big monster is running various layers.
The past few days have been very interesting. It seems a customer was not happy with the progress of their order, rather than work out the issue between the two people that can actually come to a resolution/solution She felt the need to blast it on the interweb. I never did understand this method....as if some random people on the internet are going to solve our problem for us? I don't get it. It's very interesting thing , I have had customers who waited longer than anyone. Though upset they had worked with me privately and sorted it out over time like adults, with a chunk of patience along with some understanding on both ends and an appreciation of that patience on my part we reached positive outcomes. Though he lives across the country, one of these clients I now consider one of my best friends as our relationship grew from the business experience we had gone through, the ups and downs, go figure!
Considering my unique position in between the prop work and entertainment aspects of the interwebs this was of course very easy to roll with and snow ball. The internet, as we know, thrives on controversy and hate, even if it takes some flat out lies or fake stories to get your jollies (see your FB news feed) ....or your clicks/hits/likes. Cue the Angry mob, some with legit complaints - YES (You will find I am a broken record on that note, it seems no matter how many times I admit my flaws or where I screw up, people just love pointing it out as if I am hiding it). With a pool of Truths (yes), half truths, and flat out fake posts and lies, we have ourselves a beast!
Oh Wait! Before I continue and forget! GUYS! It does not say "Jim Logan" on my birth certificate! AHHHH You have been had! OH OH and I have a mug shot!!!! AHHH! Thanks for sharing it along the likes of Iron Man himself! Wanna see? You can find it on a website that states "No claims to the accuracy of this information are made..." and a little bit of "people featured on this site may not of been convicted of the charges or crimes listed and are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Do not rely on this site to determine factual criminal records. " With out going into the story, "resisting arrest" it says... you are damn right, I felt wrongfully accused SO I FOUGHT back. Still not sure how this mug shot is related to prop making or cosplay, but damn it looks good on the cover of the story, no? Anyways, back to subject....The epic article about me.
After a short time it seemed that this was more about the attention and less the actual order. Again, I do not understand this method..... if there is in fact an issue, if not through me, go through paypal, your bank, or whatever the proper channel is. There is no "scam" I can really pull here, if you paid money for something and are not ever getting it, there IS a way to get your money back...makes me question what you reallllyyyy want here? As I told the girl directly, she would get more hits on her little blog than ever before...it shut down her server. The unknown blog thing was up to 100s of thousands of hits, I kept reading "go check it out", "go sign up", Follow me on twitter! Along with constant updates to #logangate ( I like it) to keep the public interested, involved, and of course clicking. You know you could have just showed some cleavage and "made it" like some of the other cosplay girls, but hey.....In other lines of work I have been preaching for the past few years that controversy, drama, hate, and negative things = ratings... attention...and ultimately money. So thanks for the boost and launching me to the next step of my business plans prematurely....and you are welcome.
"Unfortunately" many have jumped on the band wagon (this is supposed to be unfortunate for me right?) Again, there are people with legit complaints, but there are also people jumping into the crowd when they have no idea what is going on...or even what "cosplay" is. I even had one guy tell me that I was using an image of someone else's on this page. Claiming my cable picture was a scam... "you did not make a thing on that costume, that cosplayer makes all his own stuff!" - The picture was me in my costume! AHH! It gets good, from "I just don't like the guy" and "he seems like a ******" to "he groped me at Dragon Con" ...and convention I had never attended! AHH! along with SOME (NOT ALL, let me be clear) people flat out making up orders they never received. I know my work better than anyone, and my orders and I am reading things and I knowww I never agreed to do any work like that, let alone took money for it. Anything to get in on the act right? To feel like part of something? I have to say, this is not far off with some of the ideas I have had to manipulate the internet for attention/increase business, I do admire it...that is not sarcasm.
The most common thing people are asking, random people for the most part, is....why is this guy not in jail? Well, I ask you the same thing.... is it because I am a sly slippery snake of an international terroristic criminal genius!? or ......................? Oh right, the obvious, less entertaining and thought provoking answer.
If being behind on my work makes me a criminal I would be serving a few life sentences! Not sure if it makes me a "Felon" "**********" "Pedophile" "dog beater" "Rapist" "abuser of women" "****tard" "piece of ****" "scam artist" "retard" and the countless other random insults and attacks I have received over the past few days from random people. There is also the classic threats to physically cause harm to me and even my friends, girlfriend, and dog! All thanks to Marlene's article, hrm.
I have even had friends join in, people I thought were friends anyways. That title was easily disposed of in some counts for obvious reasons. The people close to me know the man, not the monster WE have all created here on the internet, the one you can't stop watching, reading, and talking about...hrm. The thing that has hurt me most thus far was when two guys I had worked with on the entertainment end of things at a convention jumped on this. I feel I went above and beyond for them and what I considered to be OUR project and I considered them my friends. As you will find with most events I work, I do the flyers, hire extra performers on my own dime, etc etc....if I am involved, it's mine too and I want to make it the best I can. This dates back years to the wrestling business, if you have known me that long...you will know that any wrestling show I was on did not have a bad flyer! Anyways, I was upset that (after seeing the insane attention this has gotten) they would jump on this to generate interest in their radio show, going as far as to telling flat out lies about me abusing my position behind the mic. I guess they forgot that I have the entire event on film, that there were other people there..it was one room, they paid me upon finishing the work, and that they approved of my performance both verbally and in a series of messages.....I have never abused the utter privilege and honor of standing above everyone else with a microphone and never would, it's the most humbling thing in the world to me. ...but we all know what my word is worth.... Ultimately, I was asked to appear on their radio show....well played, as they say.
People ask me why I don't defend myself....well, I don't have to. All I have to do is keep working, catch up, and do all my other snikty things. You think responding to every loser on a message board is going to fix their need for things like this? fix anything? Or give me more time to work?! It's all theirs.... if you spend your day talking about Jim Logan, well..what does that say about you? Like clockwork, every time there is a wave of **** like this, more work comes in. However people see my work, it seems they want to buy it. Only this time I am turning away the orders rather than taking a bunch more and ending up further behind, I will get to that later.
Apparently there are many defending me though? blasphemy! The "haters" are all flustered by this notion. HOW CAN ANYONE Defend me!? I don't think I need to respond to that, the very existence and actions of these people taking it upon themselves to speak out says enough. I did hear I had them all drinking some kind of kool aid though, must be since they are not saying things you want to hear.
All this stuff is not new, it has been going on for a few years....has not slowed me down yet, but this is the largest scale to date. It all started when I got into the entertainment end, wait...you can't be a "geek" person, make props, have awesome hair , and be THAT GUY! get back in the basement and stay away from the boobies!!! Okay, maybe that was a bit much. As it has been in the past, when someone DOES defend me, support me, or try any sort of reasoning it seems their comments/words are deleted. Wouldn't want to disrupt our momentum or cause! Yes, I do stalk these forums and such and have others working with me to make sure we document all of this before deleted.
Getting off topic, let me refresh! Make no mistake, I am VERY behind on my work, admittingly and...very publicly as it has been stated on this page many times. Oh man do I suck at secretary too! Sometimes I can't justify sitting at the comp and typing (yes I know here I am) when there is work to be done. Wrong or right, that is how I am and probably need people for the rest. I find that the only RIGHT answer to a customers inquiry or concerns is the moment they open their box, not me telling them "it's coming" or "soon" or some other customer service line. Yes, I know...that's not how it's supposed to work but that's how I am wired.
The same people that cry out for me to stop whatever it is I am doing and call for my lynching are the same people overlooking that ..small...little detail, that you are fighting for something that was done months ago...I repeat, I have cut off orders for cosplayers and collectors as of August 1st.
As announced I am shooting to be CAUGHT up and done with this "community" by the new year. ...and YES, if I have a professional project deadline for company or studio that will always get bumped ahead of cosplay orders.... and YES, any actual customer who felt it necessary to attack me online in some kind of twisted attempt to satisfy the issue, attack me PERSONALLY that is - I have put them at the end of the line and told them so. As I say, I am not wal-mart or Denny's..... if you are a ***** to me and cross certain lines, I am not bumping you ahead of the people who have been waiting patiently. I will stand my ground and keep my pride in tact, no matter how bad you try to make it for me...you are last.
I also want to ask an important question as I have seen this go on as I go through this repetition of falling behind and catching up. To the small percentage of customers who have cried out and attacked me on the internet saying it was a scam or they were ripped off, as in you paid and will never get your item. What happens when you get it? as some of you have. Do you put the same amount of energy in correcting your public statements as you have throwing out the ridiculous accusations? I doubt it, it stays there on the interwebs doesn't it? not that it would matter much...if it's there for 5 minutes, the damage is done. Just wondering really....I always say - behind or not all orders will be filled. I know that is not very interesting and requires some patience for all of us...and trust, but how can you trust a "CRRIMINALLLL" !?
The decision to stop making fan items is not new, it was made and announced months ago, but Since I have an entire new following as of late, let me remind the hoomans what had brought me to this decision....
One....
I am CRAZY behind, by about 100 orders. I want to make everything for everyone but sometimes forget about the whole time thing and factor in other aspects of my hectic life. In the past few years I have bit off WAY more than I can chew as far as work load, If that makes makes me a criminal... see above. Obviously if there are less orders coming in that is more time to do the existing orders....damn me to hell for being in such demand. Or maybe I just charmed and swindled people into buying the things that I make? hrm.
Two...
I want a lot of money like every one else, I have been struggling for years trying to make my passions into my work. It has it's ups and downs but you will never find me working for the "man". However, this prop stuff....I got a lot of practice, learned a lot, got my name out there (LOL), but making pieces based on copyright characters has it's limits....and risks. There is a glass ceiling, you can only make so much money before you are rubbing whoever owns these characters the wrong way. So it's time to move on, in the past year I have done some really cool for for music videos, studios, youtube stuff is becoming a big market now, even a film, and other various companies that don't put me in that gray area of copyright law. I hope my skills can take me even further, though my chips are not all in the prop making thing, I know my limits as far as my knowledge and skills.
Three...
THE DRAMA, the need to write this and all that is going on is case in point. If you fall behind, **** if you look like a doucher, you ARE be a criminal! a "scammer" is the word! I don't think I need to get into this but I have to say that I know this fine gentleman from overseas, does great work. I see he is falling behind as well, and people have jumped to the "Scammer" attacks on him, blows my mind. You ever think that you are not the only one we are making things for? My "reputation" for being a bad boy or whatever is part of my game and the drama is expected every time I go against the grain, even welcomed.....but this guy, my example here is not like me in that area and it disgusts me to see people saying such things about another artist whom I look up to and respect, who has been nothing but a gentleman to myself and his clients.
I see some claims that this 3 month old and repetitive announcement is a "lie"...............them business strategies. Remember that time Wal-Mart put a sign out front saying "CLOSED" and they were banking on some kind of secret business coming in still?! It seems everything I say or do must be underhanded in some sort of way. Which leads me to....
What do these people want? These people as is the straight haters, not customers for the most part. Do they want me to take the necessary steps to make this right and catch up on my work? do they want a solution? a positive out come? Apparently not. Do they want me in jail? maybe dead? yes, probably...but then your evenings would be boring, no? The way you go after my loved ones tells me cold and alone in the dessert would do too, you want my dog's email also?
Winding down here, I want to point out / debunk a few things before I split.
Things like the "BBB" - Do you know that I can report you...yes you, reading this now to the BBB. They will make a file on you and what not and it will show up in google. They might even put your home address like they did me. Oh, you want this thing taken down? You just have to pay our membership fee. Well then....
IamYourHeroes.com /Entertainment work - IamYourheroes does not sell props, it's to display the work I do in costume, as well as the others who work with me at times. I see people playing the "he is a drunk" he is always in the bar partying when he should be working, spending all the customers money! ahhh!!! Now, I know it's hard for the average mundane person to grasp but If I am drinking, odds are I am on the clock. It is just as much my job to drink, dance around like a fool, get gropped, make loud noises into a mic, work the crowd, and shoot shots into people's mouths with a water gun as it is for you to do...whatever it is you hate doing at 9am. Be mad that I am behind on my prop work - okay, but going after all of my other work? How about I call your job at the cable company and start telling them you make awful coffee, that you are a ****** and a criminal with the intent to get you fired? hrm.
Attacking people close to me - get real....whatever it is you want you are not going to get it by attacking those I care for or threatening them or their business' ...also if you think you are going to scare everyone and everything away from the big bad claw man, you are wrong. Like I said, the people close to me know the man...not the character that you love, or love to hate.
He thinks he is really Wolverine - ...................................................................................................................................................................... Okay, well... if all else fails lets try this? You now when I first started this costume stuff people all called me gay pointing out that I wore makeup to back it up. I guess that worked until all them girls were jumping on that adamantium, like your girlfriend and or wife at times? oh, yeah....ee...sorry.
All of my work is stolen, I don't make anything myself - I think my dot key is broken.... LOL.
Also, I want to suggest that...if you have your own Prop or costume making thing going (I use the term loosely) or any kind of work for that matter. Filling up your pages with memes or hate for me, anyone, or anything else really but your work is pretty pathetic....your work just doesn't do it for people? does it? they make pills for that. Again, whatever gets your clicks.
We see it every day in out news feeds, not just the subject of myself...but People put soo much energy into bringing someone or something down rather than lifting themselves up, it's just easier. In my case and even in general, most of these people have no business with what they are raging about or even know what's going on.... but, internet. Maybe you should put half that energy into doing something good, maybe use it at a gym, or to take care of your kids?
Blah Blah Blah.....Well, here is the link....
http://www.ilikecomicstoo.com/jim-logan-props/
Feel free to read it all....
Now if you follow this page and my instragram of course you can compare that to the constant work in progress and the hundreds of people here...in images, not type , wearing items that I have made for them....that they have received from me.
You can even leave a comment if you would like. Of course, as mentioned any positive or supportive comments for the damned will end up deleted and dismissed to keep the show on track.
Why would I share this? For one, I have nothing to hide....most of the people involved in this madness do a fine job of making themselves look stupid, especially those who are not clients or customers of mine, but pitchforks are cool! Two, There is no one to scare away...you are trying to keep the cosplay community from ordering when I have announced months ago that I am not taking such orders. Besides my reputation outside of the tiny cosplay community is actually very good, you know in real life..with out costumes.
This is not a "witch hunt" or whatever people are putting into my mouth, I am right here, I am behind on my work, and some people are not happy about it - and repeat. The notion that I have ever ran or hid is ridiculous, I am not hard to find...this is the internet, hell...MY FACE is on flyers for various events, interesting hiding tactic? The idea that I move or change names as some diabolical plan to run from something is absurd, my baggage comes with me, it makes me ..me. Remember, these crazy speculations about the super complex dastardly plans I have done or am going to do...these ideas, they are out of your twisted brain, not mine. Now, the super intelligent hater hoomans will deem this as victimizing myself and whining, because I should just shut up and let them have their monster..ah, my #1 fans. First to watch, First to click, First to discuss the Jim Logan.
I guess it was not short...anyways - Most importantly, I have always stuck by my work and my name....for better or worse, it's all on me and I would not have it any other way.
As always, thank you for snikting.
ilikecomicstoo
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Seriously, I'm not even gonna read it. I'm sure it's a desperate attempt at damage control, and it's an attempt that failed before it even began.
