Scammer , recaster warning : latest alias Loganprops, recent alias Snikt Shop

Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

Moviefreak said:
Not to mention the part where he tells them to contact him at his email address about current orders and for new orders.
Not only did he say he will continue in the future no matter what the outcome, but that he is basically ignoring their C&D right now.
But hey... He sent them a letter!! He said he is hoping that "will smooth things over" :lol

I hope he realized there is a BIG difference in what he does as opposed to the whole costume community.
These companies tolerate costumers creating costumes and maybe offering a few up for sale...
But he MADE A BUSINESS, and an Internet presence SELLING MARVEL IP VIOLATIONS.
Sell one or two Wolverine claws a year, that's one thing, but pump them out on an assembly line....
You created a business.
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I agree he's made a business out of selling copyrighted things, but then so are so many others on etsy, eBay and Facebook. Its so easy to find many many people offering fan made props. I'm not defending him or whats he does by apparently scamming people but what's now to stop the lawyers coming down on other people who have made a businesses out of it, that are actually being honest and giving fans a replica that they would otherwise never get hold of.

And that would be really sad.
 
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As RacerMachX pointed out, the cosplay community is not in danger - companies have been stopping copyright violators from the start. They often look the other way unless a person or company is costing them significant amounts of money. David Winant / Jim Logan dug his own grave - he finally ticked off a person who decided to fight back hard.
 
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CVWcreations said:
I agree he's made a business out of selling copyrighted things, but then so are so many others on etsy, eBay and Facebook. Its so easy to find many many people offering fan made props. I'm not defending him or whats he does by apparently scamming people but what's now to stop the lawyers coming down on other people who have made a businesses out of it, that are actually being honest and giving fans a replica that they would otherwise never get hold of.

And that would be really sad.
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They might, but that is the gamble you play when you set up a shop to sell copyrighted material.
I suspect many IP holders are cool with...or should I say tolerant of.... People selling small runs on places like the RPF. Some runs have gotten very large and got shut down, but for the most part they let it slide. But if you open an online store or website, you are showing the IP holder that you are making this into a business. I suspect that is where they feel apt to step in. They love the costumers because it is advertising and their fan base, and they seem to be okay sharing the talent a bit to maybe recoup your investment in the materials and such, but when you start showing that your taking $10 claws, recasting them, using $10 in resin and selling numerous on your website for a $100+ PROFIT margin a pop.... You can bet they take notice.
 
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The studios will stop the lawyers, or more likely tell them not to start. Marvel is not going to shut down every backwoods replica seller over this; history has shown what the backlash is to a company and brand by alienating your fan base.

Maybe Logan could use his mad skills to build a time machine now. I'm thinking an apology a few months ago to the prop maker(s) he was recasting from probably now sounds like a better choice over blowing this all off and getting his doors chained.
 
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So the basic general rule is that Facebook pages that make stuff from scratch and sell them are OK ( as long as its not a run of hundreds) but taking something and recasting ( like the officially released claws) is a no no.

I did once read the copyright holders don't like it if you sell something they have a official version of, for example if marvel have made a official high end captain america helmet, they don't like people making there own and selling them. As this takes away from there profits. Though I'm not sure how true that is.
 
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CVWcreations said:
So the basic general rule is that Facebook pages that make stuff from scratch and sell them are OK ( as long as its not a run of hundreds) but taking something and recasting ( like the officially released claws) is a no no.

I did once read the copyright holders don't like it if you sell something they have a official version of, for example if marvel have made a official high end captain america helmet, they don't like people making there own and selling them. As this takes away from there profits. Though I'm not sure how true that is.
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You would probably be ok. Here is where Snikt went wrong:
1. Recasting (but that is besides the point now)
2. Opened a FB page, Etsy shop, Envy shop AND a website.
3. Endlessly promoted the site for business.
4. Went to every con and promoted his site and business.
5. Spoke on panels at cons ABOUT his business and products
6. Pissed off customers who might have aided in bringing attention to him.

So much for keeping a low profile. When he pushed the business and openely bragged about the products, big studios were bound to take a closer look.
If you create stuff and keep it on the down low, they are more willing to let you go. Plus, all the negative reaction to his stealing money, when these studios do check into him and read about his dealings online, they are probably mortified. Even though they have NOTHING to do with his sales or products, I'm sure they don't want anything to do with him. They don't want online searches with key words such as "wolverine ", linked to words like "thief" or "stolen"
To be automatically put together. They don't want you to search Wolverine and the first page of search results are about this guy.
 
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He won't stop. May hurt his piggy bank a bit but he won't stop. I wonder if the people only on his fb page knows about this.
 
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I doubt they care. They probably think he is getting picked on again. I hope he can't send them their items and they all get a taste of what we've been telling them all along.

He will probably swing it like 'Sorry, I can't make anymore props right now, but no refunds because I've already purchased all the materials.'

And then continue to fund his own costumes for awhile. After the heat has cooled down he will reopen shop and deny he owes anyone anything.
 
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The sad thing is that it's hard to tell if the C&D is real. What gets me is he wants to get his own lawyer involved which sounds like he wants to try and fight it which will end badly for everyone.
 
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He is crazy, stupid, and selfish. He openly stated he is going to try to take down as many prop makers as possible with him.

He should get a real job and just continue doing his own stuff. Like stated above, you can't make a business ripping off licensed products and not expect to get shut down.
 
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I'm pretty much brand new to this site. I've been a silent admirer for so long and finally decided to make an account. Over the past few years I've started to step into the land of scratch built replicas and I found that thing I remember as a kid making HORRIBLE model kits...It's fun! Now that I'm older and have some slight skill behind what I'm doing it's even more fun. And to hear people say how much they like what I do is an amazing feeling. It really is just freakin' FUN. I assume we're all the same here in that there is such a thrill in making something from scratch. Something that looks amazing (probably has a flaw or two, but that's art). I say all this because it really hurts that little kid in me that is awed by the prorps and costumes at all the cons. People have so much pride in what they make/buy to present these amazing costumes. It hurts that people like this are out there stealing someone's art.

Why would someone try to hurt this community. And why would someone try to take advantage of members of it? I'm just in aw of this guy's attitude and thievery. Unless he's truly clueless about what he's doing and sees no wrong in it.

Just had to throw in my 2cents.
 
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19yellow72 said:
Why would someone try to hurt this community. And why would someone try to take advantage of members of it? I'm just in aw of this guy's attitude and thievery. Unless he's truly clueless about what he's doing and sees no wrong in it.
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He's a liar with a 'poor me' complex.
 
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To be entirely fair on both ends of it all, some of the biggest accusers at times were in fact people who were/are also recasting, and also deny any inquiry into it. I'm not saying this excuses things, but I've watched things for a while, and Dave's biggest "enemies" are typically "rival" Recasters trying to get under the radar.
 
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LostSkywalker said:
To be entirely fair on both ends of it all, some of the biggest accusers at times were in fact people who were/are also recasting, and also deny any inquiry into it. I'm not saying this excuses things, but I've watched things for a while, and Dave's biggest "enemies" are typically "rival" Recasters trying to get under the radar.
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That may be true. They don't have 26 page threads about their work and ethics, though, and I've seen none started.

19yellow72 said:
....Unless he's truly clueless about what he's doing and sees no wrong in it.
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I think yes and no. Snikt isn't clueless, he recast pieces despite knowing how that practice was looked upon. He admitted to recasting pieces on his own page, and continued to do so even after people spoke with him to stop taking their work. He has also lied about it, and then turned around and followed that by saying that nothing is wrong with recasting if he was anyways. It just stinks of laziness and greed to me.

Welcome to the forum, by the way lol! That proton pack is amazing work, I was really impressed before I even saw that it was powered :eek
 
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LostSkywalker said:
To be entirely fair on both ends of it all, some of the biggest accusers at times were in fact people who were/are also recasting, and also deny any inquiry into it. I'm not saying this excuses things, but I've watched things for a while, and Dave's biggest "enemies" are typically "rival" Recasters trying to get under the radar.
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I'm no recaster.
I don't give Winant crap about his construction skills, his appearance, or his personal history.
All I want is my money returned to me.
I've even told him that I'd write on this thread that things were now right between us were he to give me my refund.

And I've been watching this thread since it was still a single page.
 
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I think his biggest enemies turn out to be people who paid for props and got ripped off.
 
Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

LostSkywalker said:
To be entirely fair on both ends of it all, some of the biggest accusers at times were in fact people who were/are also recasting, and also deny any inquiry into it. I'm not saying this excuses things, but I've watched things for a while, and Dave's biggest "enemies" are typically "rival" Recasters trying to get under the radar.
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To be Fair!!??

Whats un-fair is that he is recasting my work.
Whats un-fair is that he is recasting other works.
Whats un-fair is that he is scamming people out of their money ( which only came to the fore front after this thread)

Whats un-fair is the you can not follow what the mods said and post comments other than about Sniktshop.

If you want to post about someone other than Sniktshop,
start your own thread.

Otherwise kindly stay out.
 
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In doing a quick search for 'fair use' I found this portion rather insightful;
Effect upon work's value:
"The fourth factor measures the effect that the allegedly infringing use has had on the copyright owner's ability to exploit his or her original work. The court not only investigates whether the defendant's specific use of the work has significantly harmed the copyright owner's market, but also whether such uses in general, if widespread, would harm the potential market of the original."

Basically, since 'Jim Logan' is making copies of officially licensed and marketed items (claws) and reselling them, it harms Marvel's ability to make a profit on their item (claws). Not to mention that the copied item is sold at a much higher price point and directly derivative of the original. Add to that that it appeared that the 'production run' was not limited to quantity or time and that he had set up multiple 'business accounts' online, you can start to see why the lawyers sent the C&D.
 
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the latest post on his jim logan profile says he's still completing orders....man, he doesn't understand c&d. marvel's going to take him down hard.
 
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jrenemtz321 said:
the latest post on his jim logan profile says he's still completing orders....man, he doesn't understand c&d. marvel's going to take him down hard.
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He probably thinks that since it is his personal page, they won't read it...
But the same pissed off people that reported him can easily direct the powers that be to that page.
 
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