Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!

[SATELLITE74]

that's pretty much what I thought after spending a few months wearing it.
At the beginning I immediately tried some small modifications (first of all, the fur which was bright yellow, and other small tailoring interventions, additional magnets, etc), then I made the first post, I was very happy with the result that I had obtained from the reasoning made up to that point, and the thermal performance, although perhaps the fabric that I chose (I don't think it's available anymore, today, laminated twill), although in fact quite light but already coated and washable, was in fact too dark, and a little too shiny.
...hence my attempt to modify it, ending up ruining it even a little in part, to this day I still wear it, however I admit that my SR (on which I could not avoid many modifications) suits me better also for the fact that it remains more postured and full-bodied, it is really an already excellently coated cotton, which I must say has no equal, I added extra classic waxing (Otter), but overall it is really definitive, even if it is not in duck weave...it'd be nice to see pics of yours, in duck canvas I guess.

I noticed that the SR coat, on their is is listed as currently unavailable ("coming soon"), maybe they are revising the model, although I really don't think it will become a duck.

Size wise, it's always a mess from a distance, I've been saying it all my life, and there's little to be done, it's like that... in fact even my SR, which fits me perfectly and I really feel like I'm replicating Gosling in terms of fit at certain times, I've been lucky but is still a bit tight under the armpits and I hope it gives a bit, and it's size L, which normally fits me comfortably and they recommended M to have it tight (I wouldn't have even fit in it, for me 178cm x 75kg with a chest of 104-105cm around, actually maybe XL it was better, they fit really tight)

the Jameel one has a looser fit, I definitely prefer it when I want more comfort, but if bought for the style, and after my alterations, I really can't take my SR off... this new Jameel collar is certainly interesting, but the issue for those who buy it and don't know how to make alterations (provided they have plenty of room to make them) I think it will never be solved, until there is a technology like avatar that tries on the measurements in real time over the air with the tailor

Yes, remote tailoring is not is not ideal. I shall try a few changes when I find a tailor willing to do it. The SR looks a better option for the fabric, but the fur looks wrong to me, the BEP has a good pile to it I think, and I wont change it. My coat fabric is the only type offered now, not coated.
I don't have any worn shots but here's a couple I just took to show colours and fabric type.

 

[sonic63098]

I've watching this thread with interest, and ordered a custom sized BEP. It arrived quite quickly and I thought I'd share my opinions of it.
The attention to detail and quality of the stitching is good, the material is lightweight, but the coat is still quite warm.
The fur/shearling is soft and comfortable on the skin, but it does flatten quickly at the wear points.
Pockets are all of a good size, and the fastening method works fine.
There are multiple magnets in the long part of the collar and they do a good job of holding the folds together.
The only real problem that I have is it is cut slightly large, and a couple of my supplied measurements were not really adhered to,
so the sleeves are a bit too long and the waist a little larger than I wanted. The sleeves are "impossible" to shorten with out losing the cupped
cuff detail my tailor tells me, but it's annoying to keep pulling the sleeves up, so I'll probably just get it done.
Overall however it's a comfortable coat, it does look good and I'm mostly pleased with it.
Hope this helps any potential purchasers. If there's anything particular anyone wants to know, give me a shout.

How's the collar fit around your face? Is it comfortable or tight? A picture or two would do us well just to get a visual idea

 

[MachinaExUmbra]

I ended up getting two BEP coats. One I got second-hand because I was on a time crunch for an event, and the other I ordered directly from BEP. The first one was a large and was a very snug fit for someone who wears a 44 - 46 inch suit jacket. The second was an extra large and fit correctly but there were some fitment oddities.

The sleeves were a bit long, but I'd much rather that than too short. The shoulders seemed extra wide. I think this is more of a combination of the very heavy canvass used and the complex moto style pattern on the shoulders more than it was a sizing issue. The collar also barely covered my face correctly. It was a struggle to get it closed and never quite sat correctly even when buckled down, and when buckled down my nose paid a price. I wrote this off as me having a big head and not putting in a fully custom order.

The material is what causes the most noticeable issues. Being as thick as it is, it doesn't drape very well around the shoulders, so it gives an American football player look. After I applied wax it became so rigid it can nearly stand on its own. After much breaking in after the waxing process it became a little more pliable, but then achieved a look that nearly matched the salt damaged version of the coat. (Unintended screen accurate weathering?)

All that being said, the craftsmanship on the coat is amazing. If I were tell someone I bought it from a high-end retail store nobody would second guess me. Every seam is well finished and the materials used are great quality. The magnet closure system with the hook and eye at the waist worked perfectly. The only magnets that didn't really work were the collar magnets. (That again is probably just my extra large head getting in the way)

My large coat is unwaxed and my extra large is waxed, if I were to do it again I would not wax the coat. It was a difficult process (that I did poorly) and only added to the rigidity of an already rigid coat.

I'm extremely interested in what will come from everyone having access to all of the auction photos, and material examinations that were done.
I always suspected it was made of a much lighter material than everyone thought, based on how it would blow around even in scenes where Gosling was just walking quickly like on the LAPD set.

 

[CountLau]

Yes, remote tailoring is not is not ideal. I shall try a few changes when I find a tailor willing to do it. The SR looks a better option for the fabric, but the fur looks wrong to me, the BEP has a good pile to it I think, and I wont change it. My coat fabric is the only type offered now, not coated.
I don't have any worn shots but here's a couple I just took to show colours and fabric type.
View attachment 1915118View attachment 1915119

well...the improvements are visible, as far as he can even with the materials.

Uncoated duck, exactly what they recommended to me, and instead I insisted on having the laminated twill which however, except for the color that I soon got bored of because of the too dark and achromatic reflections, had its advantages.

...Adam said touching on it in his video, that in fact the coat of the film is lightweight, so it would be nice to have extra fabric when ordering a coat from Jameel (as in fact I also asked for, unfortunately without having it, but I had asked for it more for possible other reasons than to try to modify it, as the path to modify a PU mixed cotton, it was already known that it was certainly unlikely and bumpy, it even went well for me all in all), with that extra fabric, the most daring and stubborn (like me) would do all the tests of the case with acrylic waxes to properly coat it (even just a pure textile medium like liquitex, which I had also tried on the bep but I took a little and mixed it with the wrong acrylic paint, moreover not on pure cotton so certainly not effective) until they managed to have it on that duck the same result as an SR, washable like the SR, and this would also end up increasing its solidity and heft, without having to resort to the classic waxing type Otter/Barbour, which is better to never wash anyway, although I like the result in the end.

Here the work on the cuffs is definitely visible (very nice), the fur here seems less yellow than I had it (and I could agree with what you say and I was saying about the real sheepskin of the SR, but I have re-evaluated it, it keeps you warmer, in the end I like the style it gives even without being SA and it will never have that problem that it flattens on the parts in constant contact, as absolutely all synthetics do, sooner or later), I can't say if the lining is better or not from this photo, you'll find out in a short time I think, the fit seems very nice, certainly less loose, to my eye it seems that Jameel has worked hard.

It'd be nice to see more details of the collar even closed, since it was the most debated point, so it is not clear how much better it is without risking opening so not tight and more funneled.
It looks nice, anyway.
It think I can just say that, maybe kinda repetition from me, but in the movie we've seen "things that people wouldn't believe" (literally), like Deckard wearing just a shirt and acting nonchalantly in the last part of the movie where he just came out wet after swam in the ocean in winter (as well as K), everything under a snowy morning...it is pretty obvious that we could never get too much into the character: probably, the movie coat actually is quite lightweight, even if the effect is pretty upholstered and coated...it is a movie prop though.
I simply wanna say that, after having got 3 coats (even if the first was self-made), I believe the SR (and maybe it's the same for a WSL, standing at the reviews) has gone beyond this (even if mine, has been extra waxed by me to even increase that result and ensure long-term solidity even more), putting materials and heft enough to be a real winter coat. The BEP has I had, it was quite warm, but when the real freezing cold arrived, and the lining was clearly showing not to be that effective and strong, I quickly worried to also improve it (together with color and everything I did on it), but to be similar to the movie coat in terms of weight, probably Jameel nailed it. Find the fur...dunno, maybe the one I posted recently, coould be better, but actualy not be able to say it...maybe I will get some in the future and figure out.
However, it's a matter to look for something more (for normal, real life people who have to struggle with winter climate for real), or being closer to the movie without saying that this coat here looks kinda cosplay, but maybe still closer to a prop (as it probably should be, if you wanna get closer to the movie effect) than a proper heavy coat.

 

[CountLau]

I ended up getting two BEP coats. One I got second-hand because I was on a time crunch for an event, and the other I ordered directly from BEP. The first one was a large and was a very snug fit for someone who wears a 44 - 46 inch suit jacket. The second was an extra large and fit correctly but there were some fitment oddities.

The sleeves were a bit long, but I'd much rather that than too short. The shoulders seemed extra wide. I think this is more of a combination of the very heavy canvass used and the complex moto style pattern on the shoulders more than it was a sizing issue. The collar also barely covered my face correctly. It was a struggle to get it closed and never quite sat correctly even when buckled down, and when buckled down my nose paid a price. I wrote this off as me having a big head and not putting in a fully custom order.

The material is what causes the most noticeable issues. Being as thick as it is, it doesn't drape very well around the shoulders, so it gives an American football player look. After I applied wax it became so rigid it can nearly stand on its own. After much breaking in after the waxing process it became a little more pliable, but then achieved a look that nearly matched the salt damaged version of the coat. (Unintended screen accurate weathering?)

All that being said, the craftsmanship on the coat is amazing. If I were tell someone I bought it from a high-end retail store nobody would second guess me. Every seam is well finished and the materials used are great quality. The magnet closure system with the hook and eye at the waist worked perfectly. The only magnets that didn't really work were the collar magnets. (That again is probably just my extra large head getting in the way)

My large coat is unwaxed and my extra large is waxed, if I were to do it again I would not wax the coat. It was a difficult process (that I did poorly) and only added to the rigidity of an already rigid coat.

I'm extremely interested in what will come from everyone having access to all of the auction photos, and material examinations that were done.
I always suspected it was made of a much lighter material than everyone thought, based on how it would blow around even in scenes where Gosling was just walking quickly like on the LAPD set.

exactly, that's what I consider the point about movie coat weight (and actual practicality for real life).
I mean, my SR as it came out now, I so happy with the result also because of its practicality to withstand weather and elements, I'd say the same of a great Belstaff waxed cotton heavy jacket.

It still would be nice to have those details from the one who got the coat from the auction, and I highlited the importance of having estimation of the weight (oz) of that duck canvas used...this would be crucial for the ones like Jameel and Indy who seem to be willing to improve their coat closer to the movie for the customers who ask it, possibly re-evaluting their cloth after being sure of this parameter.

Canvas are made in various type and weight of course, and once I coated with my greenland-Otter wax mixed method a duck canvas vest I use to hike in harsh paths in the mid or summer season, it stiffned it pretty much, on other clothes it didn't go the same way, so dunno if you did it properly or not, but it also depends on the cloth you'are treating, maybe a certain type of wax on the duck Jameel provides, might add too much stiffness...the only way should be having all the waxes and all the clothes, and do several tries...not sensible, of course, unless this is your job

 

[Malibu139]

I noticed that the SR coat, on their is is listed as currently unavailable ("coming soon"), maybe they are revising the model, although I really don't think it will become a duck.

Its not just the Blade Runner coat. Currently it looks like most of the coats on the SR site are showing "coming soon". Thats odd.

 

[CountLau]

Its not just the Blade Runner coat. Currently it looks like most of the coats on the SR site are showing "coming soon". Thats odd.

I bought from SR because I wanted their BD2k49 coat, and I definitely don't need another one, but already months ago I just tried to place an order for a BD2k49 coat again, since someone told it wasn't possible...and it wasn't possible, the situation on the site was already stucking...

 

[SATELLITE74]

How's the collar fit around your face? Is it comfortable or tight? A picture or two would do us well just to get a visual idea

It's quite tight to my nose, but not uncomfortable as the fur is soft. The look of this was secondary to me as I don't plan on ever having it up though.

 

[SATELLITE74]

I ended up getting two BEP coats. One I got second-hand because I was on a time crunch for an event, and the other I ordered directly from BEP. The first one was a large and was a very snug fit for someone who wears a 44 - 46 inch suit jacket. The second was an extra large and fit correctly but there were some fitment oddities.

The sleeves were a bit long, but I'd much rather that than too short. The shoulders seemed extra wide. I think this is more of a combination of the very heavy canvass used and the complex moto style pattern on the shoulders more than it was a sizing issue. The collar also barely covered my face correctly. It was a struggle to get it closed and never quite sat correctly even when buckled down, and when buckled down my nose paid a price. I wrote this off as me having a big head and not putting in a fully custom order.

The material is what causes the most noticeable issues. Being as thick as it is, it doesn't drape very well around the shoulders, so it gives an American football player look. After I applied wax it became so rigid it can nearly stand on its own. After much breaking in after the waxing process it became a little more pliable, but then achieved a look that nearly matched the salt damaged version of the coat. (Unintended screen accurate weathering?)

All that being said, the craftsmanship on the coat is amazing. If I were tell someone I bought it from a high-end retail store nobody would second guess me. Every seam is well finished and the materials used are great quality. The magnet closure system with the hook and eye at the waist worked perfectly. The only magnets that didn't really work were the collar magnets. (That again is probably just my extra large head getting in the way)

My large coat is unwaxed and my extra large is waxed, if I were to do it again I would not wax the coat. It was a difficult process (that I did poorly) and only added to the rigidity of an already rigid coat.

I'm extremely interested in what will come from everyone having access to all of the auction photos, and material examinations that were done.
I always suspected it was made of a much lighter material than everyone thought, based on how it would blow around even in scenes where Gosling was just walking quickly like on the LAPD set.

Yes, everything you say about the fit and finish is correct!

 

[SATELLITE74]

well...the improvements are visible, as far as he can even with the materials.

Uncoated duck, exactly what they recommended to me, and instead I insisted on having the laminated twill which however, except for the color that I soon got bored of because of the too dark and achromatic reflections, had its advantages.

...Adam said touching on it in his video, that in fact the coat of the film is lightweight, so it would be nice to have extra fabric when ordering a coat from Jameel (as in fact I also asked for, unfortunately without having it, but I had asked for it more for possible other reasons than to try to modify it, as the path to modify a PU mixed cotton, it was already known that it was certainly unlikely and bumpy, it even went well for me all in all), with that extra fabric, the most daring and stubborn (like me) would do all the tests of the case with acrylic waxes to properly coat it (even just a pure textile medium like liquitex, which I had also tried on the bep but I took a little and mixed it with the wrong acrylic paint, moreover not on pure cotton so certainly not effective) until they managed to have it on that duck the same result as an SR, washable like the SR, and this would also end up increasing its solidity and heft, without having to resort to the classic waxing type Otter/Barbour, which is better to never wash anyway, although I like the result in the end.

Here the work on the cuffs is definitely visible (very nice), the fur here seems less yellow than I had it (and I could agree with what you say and I was saying about the real sheepskin of the SR, but I have re-evaluated it, it keeps you warmer, in the end I like the style it gives even without being SA and it will never have that problem that it flattens on the parts in constant contact, as absolutely all synthetics do, sooner or later), I can't say if the lining is better or not from this photo, you'll find out in a short time I think, the fit seems very nice, certainly less loose, to my eye it seems that Jameel has worked hard.

It'd be nice to see more details of the collar even closed, since it was the most debated point, so it is not clear how much better it is without risking opening so not tight and more funneled.
It looks nice, anyway.
It think I can just say that, maybe kinda repetition from me, but in the movie we've seen "things that people wouldn't believe" (literally), like Deckard wearing just a shirt and acting nonchalantly in the last part of the movie where he just came out wet after swam in the ocean in winter (as well as K), everything under a snowy morning...it is pretty obvious that we could never get too much into the character: probably, the movie coat actually is quite lightweight, even if the effect is pretty upholstered and coated...it is a movie prop though.
I simply wanna say that, after having got 3 coats (even if the first was self-made), I believe the SR (and maybe it's the same for a WSL, standing at the reviews) has gone beyond this (even if mine, has been extra waxed by me to even increase that result and ensure long-term solidity even more), putting materials and heft enough to be a real winter coat. The BEP has I had, it was quite warm, but when the real freezing cold arrived, and the lining was clearly showing not to be that effective and strong, I quickly worried to also improve it (together with color and everything I did on it), but to be similar to the movie coat in terms of weight, probably Jameel nailed it. Find the fur...dunno, maybe the one I posted recently, coould be better, but actualy not be able to say it...maybe I will get some in the future and figure out.
However, it's a matter to look for something more (for normal, real life people who have to struggle with winter climate for real), or being closer to the movie without saying that this coat here looks kinda cosplay, but maybe still closer to a prop (as it probably should be, if you wanna get closer to the movie effect) than a proper heavy coat.

I've dropped a couple of shots of the closed collar on another post, you can see it is still not quite right in look and it is quite tight, but I am not too worried about SA here. The lining looks ok now but I suspect it will wear down in time, Winters here in the U.K. are not too cold so I think in that respect it will be fine and also wearable in Spring and Autumn.
I have used Liquitex in the past on fabric and it would not work for this application as it makes the material stiff, even when applied thinned down with water. PU coated fabric is the right choice I think.

 

[CountLau]

I've dropped a couple of shots of the closed collar on another post, you can see it is still not quite right in look and it is quite tight, but I am not too worried about SA here. The lining looks ok now but I suspect it will wear down in time, Winters here in the U.K. are not too cold so I think in that respect it will be fine and also wearable in Spring and Autumn.
I have used Liquitex in the past on fabric and it would not work for this application as it makes the material stiff, even when applied thinned down with water. PU coated fabric is the right choice I think.

When I used the liquitex medium alone (textile), I waited couple days after put a very thin layer, then ironed, it was on a light duck cotton canvas I used to make a bag, and it wasnt that stiff...maybe it depends on which canvas you should work, on the contrary I tried polyurethane fabric painting, and it was very dense adding too much weight, it was unpleasant even without stiffness, Adam S. A was arguing with that guu from propstore, the coat has possibly been airbrushed, I think if it's right, the coating could be a type of acrylic...the PU coating I had from Jameel, it was a native manufacturer coating (PU laminated cotton-spandex, I'd say), nice, but now that we've argued more and also after the auction and Adam's vids, more points have been sorted out clearer, I wont said that laminated from Jameel was the way to go for a proper k coat replica, and not even a proper winter coat...I don't regret that much the purchase since I managed to tweak it and it has a particular and exceptional smooth comfy-elastic fit also suitable for dynamic activities (not training, of course), but if I had no coat and have to choose at today, I will go for SR (XL size, not my L even if it looks gorgeous on me, but it's a bit too tight and it's on the way to give a bit finally, by using and abusing it...), tweak it exactly to have it the same as I have it now.
WSL, Magnoli, Jameel, could be a great choice anyway, but their coat can be just treated safely with classic wax (I'd say Otter dressing and bars as the best) to properly coat them, when SR can have extra wax to add weight and sturdiness, but it's not actually needed, and even if twill, I guess it's the best cloth overall for the ones who wants be sure to rely on a every day solid, real winter coat.
About the upper lenght, Jameel's updated coat seem to still have a bit of need for even some more extra length, the tightness for me is a nightmare, I could see better that collar, wider and relaxed, it still isn't from what I saw here, ok wrapped around a bit, but the face doesn't have to be shrunk, at all...

 

[Mechanismo]

Nearly there!

Hi guys, while this is still a work in progress and more photos of the finished coat will follow shortly, I wanted to share things as they stand.

Background: about two years ago a bought a BEP/ELS laminated coat but, unfortunately, the coat I got was a misfire on many fronts. Just to sum it up very quickly, it was oversized, the coat lining was extremely flimsy, and the shearling was unsuitable.

I took the coat to a local tailor a year and a half ago and he's only just started working on it. He's a total disaster, but a lovely guy. Worth the wait.

For the coat update, I provided him with the following:

-new, better quality, more robust lining for both the body of the coat and the sleeves. Complete replacement.

-new shearling sourced from a Uniqlo teddy/sherpa woman's coat

The tailor has slimmed down the coat's overall fit to make the coat more tailored and structured, including the sleeves . He also added more padding to the shoulder panels.

-the collar: BEP/ELS made it to (largely) to my specs but forgot to add the buckram and the collar stand. My tailor is adding the buckram (I can live without the collar stand) .

Like I said, more photos to follow soon of the finished coat, but for the moment, I'm really pleased with the transformation.

Just a quick note on the shearling: while not as screen accurate as the Golden Rabbit/camel-color shearling I sourced for my go-to custom WSL coat, the Uniqlo shearling I found for this coat is, I think, a fantastic happy medium: it's far better quality, looks solid and it's a significant improvement over the standard shearling on all the other coats (BEP, SR, WSL et al).

Original coat:

Altered coat so far:
This first gives a decent idea of the new shearling and quilting.

This collar is according to my specs (so, not the standard BEP/ELS collar)

 

[CountLau]

Nearly there!

Hi guys, while this is still a work in progress and more photos of the finished coat will follow shortly, I wanted to share things as they stand.

Background: about two years ago a bought a BEP/ELS laminated coat but, unfortunately, the coat I got was a misfire on many fronts. Just to sum it up very quickly, it was oversized, the coat lining was extremely flimsy, and the shearling was unsuitable.

I took the coat to a local tailor a year and a half ago and he's only just started working on it. He's a total disaster, but a lovely guy. Worth the wait.

For the coat update, I provided him with the following:

-new, better quality, more robust lining for both the body of the coat and the sleeves. Complete replacement.

-new shearling sourced from a Uniqlo teddy/sherpa woman's coat

The tailor has slimmed down the coat's overall fit to make the coat more tailored and structured, including the sleeves . He also added more padding to the shoulder panels.

-the collar: BEP/ELS made it to (largely) to my specs but forgot to add the buckram and the collar stand. My tailor is adding the buckram (I can live without the collar stand) .

Like I said, more photos to follow soon of the finished coat, but for the moment, I'm really pleased with the transformation.

Just a quick note on the shearling: while not as screen accurate as the Golden Rabbit/camel-color shearling I sourced for my go-to custom WSL coat, the Uniqlo shearling I found for this coat is, I think, a fantastic happy medium: it's far better quality, looks solid and it's a significant improvement over the standard shearling on all the other coats (BEP, SR, WSL et al).

Original coat:

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Altered coat so far:
This first gives a decent idea of the new shearling and quilting.
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This collar is according to my specs (so, not the standard BEP/ELS collar)
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Looks great.
If it's not too late, you could tell the tailor to stylize the cuffs as the movie one, increasing the cut in the inner cuffs as we recently discussed and rightly pointed out by Bacta, I already made a bit of work the sleeves to make'em tighter, but I still have to go for that cuff last tweak, I have room I think I'll do that, unless the few guys who contacted me to possibly buy it, they would ever coinvince me to part ways with it and just keeping my SR for myself, but for less than 300€ no way to sell my BEP...I spend more than double to have it and all the materials to tweak it, and huge amount of time and energies...
In the end it will be a pain to sell it, but at today I'm still thinking about it since I prefer not having two similar outerwear, but the main difference with yours is also that I ruined a bit too much mine with too many processes, and it was impossible to ask for another larger collar for mine, since the cloth wouldn't match anymore after my tweaks on the fabric, and it's also shorter than the length I want... it's nice anyway and very comfy, it will be a hard choice...
Hope you'll get a great final result, I still believe that, even if twill, that cloth wasn't that bad at all, considering the movie coating to replicate, how unlikely is for all the "dry" clothes out there, even if it's possibile to wax with Barbour or Otter, but in the end, that laminated, perhaps sllightly tweaked (not much as I did, for sure) and SR, both twill, but are the closest manufacturer-made coating to be similar to the movie effect
...Jameel let the choice for the cloth to woek with for longtime, now I guess he preferred to stock just the uncoated duck canvas, but I started believing that SR select a high quality twill, because maybe in general, twill might be a fancier quality material than canvas, more versatile and durable, if in the same weight for square yard... maybe the ones who to cosplay k coat as closer as possible, they will disagree since it's duck canvas, but in this days I'm back working on duck canvas to make a vest for me for the mid and summer season when hiking into forest and harsh environments, using a heavy duck I found, it's very robust and it seems more resistent to scratches and elements, but I'm finding harder times to work with it shaping some details, and maybe it might generally be less long lasting than a good twill...just a thought

 

[Cameron1138]

Anyone who owns the Soul Revolver coat and has replaced the shearling, how difficult of a job is it? I just ordered one on eBay (was planning to make my own from scratch but finding fabric has been difficult and I found one listed for a good price) and the fur color/texture is the only inaccuracy that might bother me enough to want to go to the trouble of fixing it, but I'm worried about messing it up and ruining an expensive item. I expect getting tailor to do it won't be at all cheap either.

 

[CountLau]

Anyone who owns the Soul Revolver coat and has replaced the shearling, how difficult of a job is it? I just ordered one on eBay (was planning to make my own from scratch but finding fabric has been difficult and I found one listed for a good price) and the fur color/texture is the only inaccuracy that might bother me enough to want to go to the trouble of fixing it, but I'm worried about messing it up and ruining an expensive item. I expect getting tailor to do it won't be at all cheap either.

If you do not open the coat at the side using then the machine on the entire length of the edges (making the right effect with non-visible stitching from outside, like the fur is on relief, just sitched onto the fabric), I find it hard but doable, it's not that simple, I managed to do it by finishing it handly at harder points, and eventually...started believing the original real shearling was better and the only actual durable solution, and so then putting it back (and yes, it was extremely hard since the real thick leather of that fur, it needs more efforts to be sewed).

If you're not sure, maybe better rely on someone else but only if you can totally trust him: my SR didn't have so much room for mistakes by anyone, since the fabric inner frame where you have to sew the fur, it's not that wide (I immediately did an additional inner seamline on the free edge not to let it fray, even if tthe acrylic coating should help to avoid that).

Incidentally, I did some researches about where to find a similar quality real shearling here in my town Turin, which is a pretty cutting-edge city, even if we are in Italy, I was just curious...well, the price of such a similar real shearling, it was about a third of the coat, so this is a fact, and even if looking for SA is something everyone here might be interested, the value of that fur is so relevant, and that whether you consider it odd or carpet-like in the end, or not (lucky me, that I didn't transformed it in something else when it was removed, like I was close to do)

 

[Cameron1138]

If you do not open the coat at the side using then the machine on the entire length of the edges (making the right effect with non-visible stitching from outside, like the fur is on relief, just sitched onto the fabric), I find it hard but doable, it's not that simple, I managed to do it by finishing it handly at harder points, and eventually...started believing the original real shearling was better and the only actual durable solution, and so then putting it back (and yes, it was extremely hard since the real thick leather of that fur, it needs more efforts to be sewed).

If you're not sure, maybe better rely on someone else but only if you can totally trust him: my SR didn't have so much room for mistakes by anyone, since the fabric inner frame where you have to sew the fur, it's not that wide (I immediately did an additional inner seamline on the free edge not to let it fray, even if tthe acrylic coating should help to avoid that).

Incidentally, I did some researches about where to find a similar quality real shearling here in my town Turin, which is a pretty cutting-edge city, even if we are in Italy, I was just curious...well, the price of such a similar real shearling, it was about a third of the coat, so this is a fact, and even if looking for SA is something everyone here might be interested, the value of that fur is so relevant, and that whether you consider it odd or carpet-like in the end, or not (lucky me, that I didn't transformed it in something else when it was removed, like I was close to do)

What do you mean by not opening the coat at the side and using a machine? It seems like if you don't open the coat hand stitching would be the only way?

I'm also worried about losing the warmth of the real shearling, I've thought about looking for a similar shearling hide on Taobao (you can get very cheap leather hides there so I figure maybe I could find a more affordable shearling there too) because I know faux shearling won't be nearly as insulating and I want to balance accuracy with practicality as much as possible. I'm hoping I'll just be content with the fur it comes with once I have it in hand though.

 

[CountLau]

What do you mean by not opening the coat at the side and using a machine? It seems like if you don't open the coat hand stitching would be the only way?

I'm also worried about losing the warmth of the real shearling, I've thought about looking for a similar shearling hide on Taobao (you can get very cheap leather hides there so I figure maybe I could find a more affordable shearling there too) because I know faux shearling won't be nearly as insulating and I want to balance accuracy with practicality as much as possible. I'm hoping I'll just be content with the fur it comes with once I have it in hand though.

I mean, I don't know a proper way to put fabric and shearling in the right position in order to achieve that kind of visible result (not visible stitching on the shearling from outside, like it should be) without opening a side (so, the lining) and and then insert the two joined flaps into the machine in reverse, as it should be.

I'm not the definitive expert in tailoring, but I guess the alternatives is sewing all the edges by hand from outside without any need to open the side, patiently caring about not to have a visible seamline (and you also have to be able to do it),
otherwise, do a job like we've seen here in many cases, for example in some pics posted by WSL, were they sewed the shearling "squared" into the fabric frame, with visible stitching, and I will definitely say that's not how we want the coat to look.

Look at that, it's not the effect you need, right?

and this is my SR real shearling as I stitched back, absolutely no way to see the stitching line without pulling very hard if you actually want to at all cost

yes, I confirm the thermic pay-off of the real shearling compared to the fuax one, is day in night, the real wins hands down on all front, I need the coat for winter, Turin is a frozen city in some months of the year we're close to 3000/4000 and more mt tall moutains with icy winds pulled down from the valleys directly to our asses in the city which is at the feet of them, the warmer it is the better it is, climate change was a bit warmer but this winter was prety icy again, that's why I started wearing my BEP the most and then turning to wear SR the most after having the original fur put back onto it.

 

[Mechanismo]

Anyone who owns the Soul Revolver coat and has replaced the shearling, how difficult of a job is it? I just ordered one on eBay (was planning to make my own from scratch but finding fabric has been difficult and I found one listed for a good price) and the fur color/texture is the only inaccuracy that might bother me enough to want to go to the trouble of fixing it, but I'm worried about messing it up and ruining an expensive item. I expect getting tailor to do it won't be at all cheap either.

At least two or three members, among them Shahrooz and johncarbon1991 did the shearling swap on SRs successfully. There are posts with photos etc if you search through the forum.

 

[Mechanismo]

I mean, I don't know a proper way to put fabric and shearling in the right position in order to achieve that kind of visible result (not visible stitching on the shearling from outside, like it should be) without opening a side (so, the lining) and and then insert the two joined flaps into the machine in reverse, as it should be.

I'm not the definitive expert in tailoring, but I guess the alternatives is sewing all the edges by hand from outside without any need to open the side, patiently caring about not to have a visible seamline (and you also have to be able to do it),
otherwise, do a job like we've seen here in many cases, for example in some pics posted by WSL, were they sewed the shearling "squared" into the fabric frame, with visible stitching, and I will definitely say that's not how we want the coat to look.

Look at that, it's not the effect you need, right?


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and this is my SR real shearling as I stitched back, absolutely no way to see the stitching line without pulling very hard if you actually want to at all cost
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yes, I confirm the thermic pay-off of the real shearling compared to the fuax one, is day in night, the real wins hands down on all front, I need the coat for winter, Turin is a frozen city in some months of the year we're close to 3000/4000 and more mt tall moutains with icy winds pulled down from the valleys directly to our asses in the city which is at the feet of them, the warmer it is the better it is, climate change was a bit warmer but this winter was prety icy again, that's why I started wearing my BEP the most and then turning to wear SR the most after having the original fur put back onto it.

Yes, good points. But I think any skilled tailor understands this type of construction and can certainly handle it. I've had it done three times now on my WSL and BEP alterations.

 

[CountLau]

Yes, good points. But I think any skilled tailor understands this type of construction and can certainly handle it. I've had it done three times now on my WSL and BEP alterations.

I exposed my methods thinking about Cameron to try in his own, so that if he'll do it right, he can have a result like mine which I believe is pretty decent, of course a pro tailor can do that stuff, but he needs to be also paid, and as many of us could agree, not everybody would be able to understand what we have in our mind for our garments, by remote tailoring that's a risk for sure, but it can happen also explaning you goal to a tailor in person, which can be skilled, but always with a limited understanding and never sure the final result will match your expectation until you get it back and at least figure out once he's worthing your trust...that's my experience.
I believe and agree with you about your local guy, he eventually takes ages but it seems you can trust him, but I think that's not a guarantee for every tailor we can get in contact with...

However, if any skilled tailor would like to chime in and expose proper methods for that, it'd be useful for everybody