RS Prop Masters 10th Anniversary Stunt Helmet

[cking]

I'd also like to know what white paint they will be using too. My RS PM Scout Trooper helmet is more yellowed than my 37 year old Kenner Biker Scout figure, and there is no shine to it either. I would hope that these 10th anniversary helmets are going to have a really nice bright white glossy finish to them instead of trying to make them already look 40 years old. I'd like to let it age / discolour naturally rather than try to make it already look old.

 

[ggriffaw]

Doesn't the installation of the ears and most other details vary significantly on the original helmets?

 

[Clutch]

It sounds like he wanted it to match a specific helmet which they couldn't pull off.

 

[MClass]

Doesn't the installation of the ears and most other details vary significantly on the original helmets?

Yes they do.

 

[cking]

You're missing the point. When they started out with their helmets, Rob and Si showed photos of their original stripped helmet and they showed mix and matched versions of their first pulls. They put new ears onto the old helmet and new face with old back etc. The ear position of the original helmet is what I wanted on mine and their current versions are angled completely differently and located further back than on their original. I just wanted the position and angle to match the original (which was consistent with the angle and position of many other helmets).

Yes they do.

 

[cking]

Erm...the specific helmet I wanted them to match was the original helmet that they own and molded so it really shouldn't have been that difficult to match the original that was molded. It's not like I was asking them to do something massively different to what was seen on their original.
Here's their photo where they show the original and a casting. Look at how different the ear is angled and positioned on the ABS stunt that they show on the website. See the very large gap between the back edge of the tear and the front of the ear compared to their original?

It sounds like he wanted it to match a specific helmet which they couldn't pull of.

 

[PrinceZip]

Erm...the specific helmet I wanted them to match was the original helmet that they own and molded so it really shouldn't have been that difficult to match the original that was molded. It's not like I was asking them to do something massively different to what was seen on their original.
Here's their photo where they show the original and a casting. Look at how different the ear is angled and positioned on the ABS stunt that they show on the website.

You might want to email them about this issue.

It seems like they don't check theRPF regularly.

 

[MClass]

You're missing the point.

Lol.

Sounds like you need to buy a kit and do it yourself then.

 

[cking]

Of course I emailed them about it and sent lots of photos illustrating where their ABS helmet shown on the website differed from their own original helmet.

You might want to email them about this issue.

It seems like they don't check theRPF regularly.

 

[cking]

What's so funny?
They already confirmed that they won't be offering them as kits. I don't think it's unreasonable to request that they pay attention to the trimming and assembly of the helmet so that it matches up with the original helmet that they own and molded. Do you? Take a look at the photo I posted. The helmet on their website is trimmed incorrectly and the ears are positioned badly compared to their original and many of the other screen used helmets that have been photographed extensively. These guys have made great things available to the fans to which I'm grateful, but they should try and improve the consistency of the trimming, assembly and paintjob because I've seen a very big inconsistency between one helmet and another.
Other members have stated that they were so disappointed with the badly painted tube stripes that they ended up selling their helmet. These issues should not arise after 10 years of selling them. There should be a very slick and refined technique by now so that each helmet is painted and assembled very similarly. For the record, if I tried to trim assemble and paint one, it would look terrible. I'm not asking the impossible to expect that a company who has been doing these for a decade can get it done without any issues.

Lol.

Sounds like you need to buy a kit and do it yourself then.

 

[Clutch]

Were you paying extra? I doubt they would take the extra time to ensure it matched a photo if they weren't being compensated for it.

 

[cking]

I asked them to match their own original helmet. i would expect each and every helmet to be assembled with care so that it is an accurate representation of what the original looked like. Look at the photo I posted which shows their first casting which was very accurate compared to what they've got on the website now which has the ears at completely the wrong angle and too far back.

Were you paying extra? I doubt they would take the extra time to ensure it matched a photo if they weren't being compensated for it.

 

[Clutch]

I asked them to match their own original helmet. i would expect each and every helmet to be assembled with care so that it is an accurate representation of what the original looked like.

Then I can kind of see why they weren't that concerned. Probably assembly-lining it. Have you seen their latest video where he attaches just one ear?

 

[cking]

Yes, I've seen the video and Rob assembles that one really well. I just want that attention given to my helmet - especially if it's going to cost over £500. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't want a helmet that has the ear placement / angle problem seen on their website photo.

Then I can kind of see why they weren't that concerned. Probably assembly-lining it. Have you seen their latest video where he attaches just one ear?

 

[Clutch]

Yes, I've seen the video and Rob assembles that one really well. I just want that attention given to my helmet - especially if it's going to cost over £500. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't want a helmet that has the ear placement / angle problem seen on their website photo.

I totally agree and see your point. It's just that I don't think they care. It's a crap-shoot.

 

[PrinceZip]

Considering the varying degrees of finishes in their Hero run, I think you'll just have to be lucky to get a good helmet.

 

[cking]

Well they should care. They've got reference photos all over the walls in the workshop. They need to look at them and make sure that the helmets they're making for customers are as good as they can make them. It should be a well oiled technique now after 10 years of doing it.

I totally agree and see your point. It's just that I don't think they care. It's a crap-shoot.

 

[darthbooth1978]

I have both... 2 HPDE and one ABS... if you didn't know the green was painted it feels about the same... I can't FEEL any difference that my mind already puts in there. But the paint will chip right off just like the originals

Thanks for your information. Do you display your HDPE Helmets under any specific conditions? I would just be displaying under normal conditions but would worry now about maybe sunlight conditions cracking the paint etc....

 

[darthbooth1978]

Well they should care. They've got reference photos all over the walls in the workshop. They need to look at them and make sure that the helmets they're making for customers are as good as they can make them. It should be a well oiled technique now after 10 years of doing it.

For £500 I would want them to care.

 

[ggriffaw]

ANH Screencaps
The below ANH sceencaps show quite a bit of variability in the distance from the tear to the ear. Most of them show a larger distance and the grey part of the ear is at an angle compared to the horizontal line of the crown. The vertical part of the ear is certainly at an angle.

Looks to me like there should be about 1.25 inch between the tear and ear. Some have a bigger gap, others have a smaller gap, so I guess it comes down to preference.

The grey part of the ear should be slanted. That appears to be pretty consistent.

RS Stunt TKs
Below are my RS stunt TKs. As you can see they vary in the angles and distances. The sandtrooper has much more vertical ears than the other two. I am going by the angle of the grey part of the ear compared to the horizontal lines on the top of the helmet. I guess it depends on who built each helmet. The Dowdall is the oldest. I ordered the ESB stunt and Sandtrooper in 2019.

ANH Stunt (Jim Dowdall Signature) -1 inch between tear and ear

ESB Stunt - 1.25 inch between tear and ear

Sandtrooper (Colin Michael Kitchens edition) - 1.5 inch between tear and ear