Rise of the Planet of the Apes SPOILERS

Re: Just watched Rise Of The Planet of the Apes

Like DIStudios, I wasn't ultra-excited about this movie when I saw the trailers, but we got it from Netflix the other day and I absolutely loved it. Andy Serkis did a great job as Caesar and I actually kind of liked James Franco's character.

I have to echo a friend's sentiment with regard to the movie: The humans had it coming.
 
Re: Just watched Rise Of The Planet of the Apes

Jess is never happy about a Apes film that isn't the originals lol. I normally hate CGI unless it's for shots that you can't really do easily/safely in a practical way. I'd like to see practical makeup for the later movies if they do them. It's not like they'd need 10,000 people in makeup since they can do CGI for them as long as it isn't a closeup. I still wish Roddy McDowell was around to have done the voice of Caesar. I was kind of hoping for the speech from the end of Conquest.
 
As much as I prefer practical makeups over CG characters, the fact that these filmmakers wanted Caesar to look like a real chimpanzee made practical makeup virtually impossible because of the basic differences in human and chimpanzee anatomy, particularly cranial structure. That said, although I never once believed Caesar was a living, breathing chimpanzee, I thought the CGI was rather well done for the most part. As someone said on another forum, "It (CGI) still looks fake, it just looks fake in a way we're not used to yet." Like the Na'vi in Avatar, eventually your mind just accepts this is what these creatures look like (if the movie holds your interest, that is) and gets on with processing the events presented in the movie.

As for Rise, I liked it. I thought it was a plausible (given the premise) retelling of the story that was faithful to the intent of the original movies (of which I am a fan) without being completely derivative. Good performances throughout, though I think James Franco might have been miscast (I like Franco, but I didn't find his performance entirely believable). And Andy Serkis has become a master of the art of creating motion-capture characters; so much so that one website has begun a campaign of sorts to dub all motion-capture characters "Serkis-folk". I'm looking forward to seeing the sequel(s).
 
Caesar had pants on.

It was better than I thought it would be. The POTA series gets worse every time, usually. This one at least tried.
It was still kind of forced. Why do all the Apes get angry? Some would turn on the TV and watch Jersey Shore or something.
And just because they're angry, why are they great fighters?

The ending was very 12 Monkeys. [12 Apes?] When the assistant died they should have had his dog in there, dead as well.

But they tried keeping continuity with the original. Icarus 'Lost in Space?' newspaper for example. Never did see the remake though.

Caesar was written in the mold of the Mythic Hero. He had 'special' parents. He lost them and was thrown into a different world, which he overcame with his skills. He gained supporters and fought against the oppressors.
 
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Caesar was written in the mold of the Mythic Hero. He had 'special' parents. He lost them and was thrown into a different world, which he overcame with his skills. He gained supporters and fought against the oppressors.

You really don't see this formula used in movies anymore, then again everything is a reboot these days or formulaic with what makes cash. The ending sure was a big open question the more I think about it. But i guess with the issues humanity is going to have happen soon tracking down some apes is probably not going to be the top issue to deal with lol.
 
For ape luggage ?
Someone better stop all them underage kids visiting zoos then, either that or buy them apes some underpants.

It wouldn't shock me the MPAA has all sorts of silly rules and regulations. A Pg 13 movie can have near nudity and farts yet you can't drop the f bomb. Actually according to the Zuckers you can get 1 fbomb in a pg 13 movie if you ask nice :lol
 
The cgi was obvious in some scenes but overall I think it was some of the most convincing cg I've ever seen. But above all I found the story pulled me in and the character development was great.
 
The problem is I don't think CGI will ever be fully convincing when real humans are in the shots. Now had you done all the characters in realistic CGI i think it becomes easier to accept it. I know on a few films that have realistic CGI people and no real humans you forget that you're seeing animated characters.
 
The problem is I don't think CGI will ever be fully convincing when real humans are in the shots. Now had you done all the characters in realistic CGI i think it becomes easier to accept it. I know on a few films that have realistic CGI people and no real humans you forget that you're seeing animated characters.
I would extend this beyond humans to include anything we've seen in real life. It's easy for most of us to watch a movie like Jurassic Park and marvel at how "realistic" the various dinosaurs look because we've never actually seen a living breathing dinosaur. But we've all seen humans, animals, cars, airplanes, etc., and the slightest discrepancy in appearance or movement registers as false in our minds and destroys the illusion, even if we're not consciously aware of what those discrepancies are.

That said, your point is well taken. I walked out of Tron: Legacy thinking the CGI "young" version of Jeff Bridges wouldn't have looked so out-of-place if all of the in-computer characters were CGI.
 
Finally saw this and really enjoyed it. Of course, the inspirational end where the abused ape is freed is kinda a mixed bag due to the whole "apes wiping out humanity thing" in the later films. Fortunately there was that coda which showed the virus spreading. I hope we get a sequel to the prequel. Normally I'd be against that kind of nonsense, but I think this film was well handled.

Kudos for giving it a calm pace and a lot of (genuine) heart. It wasn't just two hours of mayhem. More movies should be scripted with this level of care. It's telling that my ten year old wasn't put off by the slow pace. At the end he gushed "that is DEFINITELY my new favorite movie." Now I know kids say that at the end of most movies, because they're excited, but this movie wasn't the usual hyper-edited flash and bang. My kid was identifying with CHARACTER. Not just Caesar either, but the father. IT CAN BE DONE, HOLLYWOOD. GOOD STORIES CAN BE TOLD.
 
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Although the movies was fine enough, the ending was so terribly STUPID! Franco: "Let's go home. Ceasar: Ceasar is home.

Apes wander off into a park like forrest just outside of the city and take up residence in the trees. We wait a few years for another movie to see what those rascals have been up to.

Real world---Apes take up residence in the trees. 15 minutes later a big bomb incenerates the park!
 
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