I love the easter eggs in the Quiet Eye video. This one is my favorite though:
♪ One of these things is not like the other ♪
OOh, and there's Sigourney Weaver in the green hat
Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details
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OOh, and there's Sigourney Weaver in the green hat
I have to say I am getting a little twitchy about this now we are getting so close to the release date. I watched Alien last night. It still thrills me in all the ways it's supposed to. And,unfortunately seeing it again did nothing to settle my nerves about Prometheus. I know we are talking thirty odd years of cinema effects development. I know that this is a high profile mega marketed release and that its a "higher concept movie" than Alien. But it really feels like a very,very, different beast.The word I'm look for here is generic.
Just compare the clip of the Prometheus landing and the Nostromo. Despite all the pretty shots in Prometheus, this feels trival to me, like they have all just decided to go for a stroll in the park. There is no tension at all. No foreboding. No peril. Its just far too slick.Even the dialogue. The music doesn't help either. Sounds like every recent big budget soundtrack I've heard in the last decade.
Then watch the Nostromo landing sequence. I know whats coming because I've seen the film so many times but it STILL grips me. Majestic, powerful, and a soundtrack that is definitely dangerous and threatening, as if the what the crew does matters to their survival and the ship they pilot has proper mass as it lands in a hostile atmosphere on a mysterious planet.
Not " Touchdown,the Prometheus has landed. Now everybody put your wellies on and no playing with any naughty bug eyed monsters."
Prometheus just doesn't feel "rough" or "dangerous" enough to me. The first trailer did. But its been so heavily over marketed these last couple of months and extensively promoted. I've never seen so much prerelease material for a film.To go from whacking bans on even the blurriest photograph or test trailer getting released on the net to this deluge of material that amounts to a condensed five minutes of the plot points in summary is not filling me with confidence. I'm just hoping that Ridley IS holding alot back.
God knows how much I want this film to work. But ,like the Spanish Banks I've just heavily down graded my expectations of it.
Oh And I hate that new poster!! "From the makers of Transformers and Big Explodie Things!!!"
Just compare the clip of the Prometheus landing and the Nostromo. Despite all the pretty shots in Prometheus, this feels trival to me, like they have all just decided to go for a stroll in the park. There is no tension at all. No foreboding. No peril. Its just far too slick.Even the dialogue. The music doesn't help either. Sounds like every recent big budget soundtrack I've heard in the last decade.
Then watch the Nostromo landing sequence. I know whats coming because I've seen the film so many times but it STILL grips me. Majestic, powerful, and a soundtrack that is definitely dangerous and threatening, as if the what the crew does matters to their survival and the ship they pilot has proper mass as it lands in a hostile atmosphere on a mysterious planet.
Not " Touchdown,the Prometheus has landed. Now everybody put your wellies on and no playing with any naughty bug eyed monsters."
Prometheus just doesn't feel "rough" or "dangerous" enough to me. The first trailer did. But its been so heavily over marketed these last couple of months and extensively promoted. I've never seen so much prerelease material for a film.To go from whacking bans on even the blurriest photograph or test trailer getting released on the net to this deluge of material that amounts to a condensed five minutes of the plot points in summary is not filling me with confidence. I'm just hoping that Ridley IS holding alot back.
God knows how much I want this film to work. But ,like the Spanish Banks I've just heavily down graded my expectations of it.
Oh And I hate that new poster!! "From the makers of Transformers and Big Explodie Things!!!"
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Havent noticed this spoiler posted yet:
Explosive New Poster for Prometheus Hits The Web | Shockya.com
This has a plot Synopsis, how accurate it is?????
so dont read if you dont want to know
Explosive New Poster for Prometheus Hits The Web | Shockya.com
This has a plot Synopsis, how accurate it is?????
so dont read if you dont want to know
Havent noticed this spoiler posted yet:
Explosive New Poster for Prometheus Hits The Web | Shockya.com
This has a plot Synopsis, how accurate it is?????
so dont read if you dont want to know
That is a really old plot synopsis. Not to sure how accurate that is anymore. I don't know for example if the humans are actually welcomed at any point, nor that they get mad because we steal their bio code. I kind of get the feeling maybe that what they encounter there is not necessarilly the creators, but maybe the guardians for the creators, or possibly even beings who stole from the original creators and things went wrong for them and we happen upon a place that was not meant to be found. Kind of like in Alien how that signal was a warning, maybe they misinterpreted the cave stuff and it is a warning as well
ghostryder
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Carson Dyle
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I'm always careful about making judgements based on trailer footage taken out of context.
Without going into detail, the tone of the story at the time of the ship's landing has yet to become one of tension, foreboding, or peril. It's more hopeful and upbeat; not at all ominous or sinister. There's almost a cocky sort of excitement and confidence about the way in which the Prometheus crew Boldly Goes about the business of conquering their new frontier.
Unlike Alien, which establishes a sense of dread from the first frame, Prometheus starts off on a hopeful note. Suffice to say, that note isn't sustained for very long.
I see it as a bunch of scientist on a state of the art vessel believing they are finding the most important discovery of all time vs a bunch of "truckers" in some hard working hauler who have been unexepectdly shoved into a situation they are not prepared for. The difference between a high performance sports car on a road it was designed for vs driving a junker where it was not designed for
Plus, judging the weight of a scene out of context on youtube is like judging the texture of Starry Night from this.
blipper
Sr Member
I imagine that scene of the Prometheus landing is heavily truncated from it's theatrical form though, to be fair
Arguably though, Alien would never be greenlit today in it's existing form: a conspicuously ordinary looking crew with no glamourous specialist skills to speak of, unsexy technology and a ship that would make current studio concept-artists cry for the lack of sleek panels and over-design.
Prometheus does strike me as by and large what Alien might look like if originally made today. The story also is quite typical of current blockbusters: heroic archetypes engaged in an event which will decide the fate of the world. I think a lot of the appeal from Alien aside from the obvious visual side is the apparent banal normality and understatement on show.
I guess though Scott would be the first to say there's no point in re-inventing the wheel with this one, so, twitchy fingers crossed he's produced a third great sci-fi film that'll create an impression for decades to come.
Carson, you are quite right! I've just listened to the full soundtrack (all 25 pieces) and the landing is definitely atypical of the rest of the film.
I do have to say it isn't as effective or memorable as Alien. Whilst it is not as non-descript as most of todays blockbusters it still lacks the overall theme that makes the original so outstanding and haunting, though there is a briefly reworked piece from Alien in there. Some tracks are really good, savagely disjointed, powerful and otherworldly, and theres a strong brass section in there that harks back to the first film. You can imagine ,as you say, that it all goes to hell for them quite quickly!
Word of warning ! If You go looking for it You will find it but the track titles will substantially spoil it for you as they really will give you a sense of the plot order, particularly considering the amount of trailers/clips and information thats been prereleased.However, with twelve days to go I don't think that matters much any more.I didn't post them but I was told where to go to hear them. Thanks very much.
I'll hang on to the B- rating for the moment. But I will be happy to upgrade it June 1st.
I do have to say it isn't as effective or memorable as Alien. Whilst it is not as non-descript as most of todays blockbusters it still lacks the overall theme that makes the original so outstanding and haunting, though there is a briefly reworked piece from Alien in there. Some tracks are really good, savagely disjointed, powerful and otherworldly, and theres a strong brass section in there that harks back to the first film. You can imagine ,as you say, that it all goes to hell for them quite quickly!
Word of warning ! If You go looking for it You will find it but the track titles will substantially spoil it for you as they really will give you a sense of the plot order, particularly considering the amount of trailers/clips and information thats been prereleased.However, with twelve days to go I don't think that matters much any more.I didn't post them but I was told where to go to hear them. Thanks very much.
I'll hang on to the B- rating for the moment. But I will be happy to upgrade it June 1st.
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
"From the director of Alien..."
Great, I'm in...
"...and Gladiator..."
Oh... uh...wait...
Great, I'm in...
"...and Gladiator..."
Oh... uh...wait...
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
Plus, judging the weight of a scene out of context on youtube is like judging the texture of Starry Night from this.
I trust this is meant also for those who've been saying the weight of the scene is just right...
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
I didn't notice too much excitement or cockiness either. There's very little sense of anticipation one way or the other. To me it looked like they go to an alien world to encounter the dawn of humanity or whatever every day of the week.
AxiomUltra
Active Member
I bought the soundtrack. After previewing the songs I was hooked. For me it paints a completely different picture of what the film has been portrayed as and will definitely be a much different story than Alien. I imagine this is what turns a lot of folks off about it, since it seems like that is what is really wanted.
I don't feel like the soundtrack in unoriginal, or forgettable at all. I've had several of the themes stuck in my head at work, particularly the Weyland and Space Jockey themes! You can get an idea from the tracks how much of the film will truly be horror, action, etc. It's nice that more and more directors are blurring the lines with film types so you get a bit of everything and the story becomes the most important part.
Hell, I was able to convince my girlfriend that the movie wasn't totally just a horror flick with the soundtrack alone :lol
Now I just need to keep her from seeing the screenshots!
I don't feel like the soundtrack in unoriginal, or forgettable at all. I've had several of the themes stuck in my head at work, particularly the Weyland and Space Jockey themes! You can get an idea from the tracks how much of the film will truly be horror, action, etc. It's nice that more and more directors are blurring the lines with film types so you get a bit of everything and the story becomes the most important part.
Hell, I was able to convince my girlfriend that the movie wasn't totally just a horror flick with the soundtrack alone :lol
Now I just need to keep her from seeing the screenshots!
That reminds me of when I was little and convinced my mom to take me to see Robocop. I told her the "R" rating was for bad language....I think it was more fun watching her react to the movie than it was watching the movie itself
Yeah, Prometheus was looking pretty "tame" until this last few trailers, with the whole "helmet" thing....yeah....I hope people use their empty popcorn buckets to get sick in! I want to hear people scream in the theater!
Yeah, Prometheus was looking pretty "tame" until this last few trailers, with the whole "helmet" thing....yeah....I hope people use their empty popcorn buckets to get sick in! I want to hear people scream in the theater!
Jathoris
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Jathoris
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For any of you who have played around on the Weyland Training Center...anyone know how to solve the advanced full rubiks cube? I did it... So I'd thought, in fact tried a couple ways. The only instructions you're given are to put them in order 1, 2, 3 etc from top left to bottom right. Well.. it's a cube. Unlike traditional rubiks cube which each individual piece has more than one color on each face, this game only has 4 sided cubes (game piece-not 6 btw) with only a single number on it.. so one face of the completed cube is going to read 1-9.. well there's 26 pieces.. if you turn it (flipping it doesn't help because there's no numbers on this side, so you have to turn it) normally you'd have a new side of the cube to figure out, well three of the pieces e.g. #'s 3, 6, &9 are still showing.. basically they double up because each piece only has ONE number.. so I put it in order.. no cigar. re-arrange it to fit per it's rules without moving the 3 that have to remain in order on the other face.. still no cigar. How in the heck do you finish it? CAN it even be finished because it's not a true cube? I'm bummed because I figured this sucker out and it won't accept it. I'm curious how a few people have supposedly 'beaten' this. Any ideas?
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