REWARD! prop related...please identify

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by obee1, Mar 22, 2006.

  1. obee1

    obee1 New Member

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    hey guys....i know you can do this. here is one of a set of what appears to be a common item used on the Zorro cape chian in his movies. this is a picture of the real screen used one. obviously it is the size of a quarter. the small "nut" on the post screws off. my initial thoughts were a cufflink or something.

    i have not been able to find it on my own. the first person who identifies this and can provide me a picture of it available to purchase will get $100 by payapl. let the hunting begin....


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  2. PropReplicator

    PropReplicator Sr Member Gone but not forgotten.

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    I don't think it's a cufflink. Cufflinks don't use a "nut" that small, it would slide through the button hole.
     
  3. TK171

    TK171 Well-Known Member

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    A tie clip/Pin?

    to hold your tie intowards your button up shirt.
     
  4. TFrosst

    TFrosst Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Why wouldn't it be a custom piece for a movie like Zorro? Everything else is.
     
  5. The Mantis

    The Mantis Sr Member

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    Looks like a piece from a Tallis holder....a Tallis is a shawl like object that is used in the Jewish religion during times in the temple. To hold the tallis two decorative clips or pieces like shown above are connected by a chain. Check ebay or do a google search and you will see others....not to sure of the spelling of tallis....
     
  6. The Mantis

    The Mantis Sr Member

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    Here is an example of a Tallis CHAIN (not holder)


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  7. AndySertin

    AndySertin Well-Known Member

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    Dude, it's the bottom of a chan-duh-leer...... Sorry, i can't spell un-phun-necticallly.
     
  8. obee1

    obee1 New Member

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    it could be custom...i just don't think it is. i don't believe the embroidery on the hat was custom either. it looks like stock stuff that has just been glued on. in its original state it is yellow.....but for the film it is aged to look silver. if it was custom made they probably would have started out by making it silver.


    i am just hoping here.....
     
  9. DrStranglove

    DrStranglove Sr Member

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    You need a better side pic and one showing it in the movie, please.
     
  10. obee1

    obee1 New Member

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    i just added another pic to show the chain that attaches 2 of these pieces. from the way this thing goes together i don't think it is a tallis chain or clip. the style of these is not Jewish either.


    the post on them is toooo thick to be a tie tack.


    any other ideas?
     
  11. obee1

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    i just added a pic of them from the movie. as well as pics of them from display on the real cape. i don't own the real ones so i can't get a better side pic just yet but i will work on it.
     
  12. THEWRAPOFCONS

    THEWRAPOFCONS Well-Known Member

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    It looks like a cufflink from the 50's to me, the chain is easy to find, I have one sitting on my desk as we speak.
     
  13. DrStranglove

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    I actually disagree. I went and looked at mine and I have no cufflinks that are anywhere near the size of a quarter. Look at the pic from the shoot, those would be some big honking cufflinks. Mine are between the size of a dime and a nickel. Those things are almost small broaches.
     
  14. TimDrakeRobin

    TimDrakeRobin Sr Member

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    well, if it has a nut on the back then it would be some kind of furnature piece I would think. Check Antique shops for dressers, lamps, keepsake boxes, it seems along those lines to me.
    something like this
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  15. obee1

    obee1 New Member

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    most knobs are threaded internally......there is nothing to keep this piece from sliding all the way through a hole drilled in the drawer. a knob would stop on the outside of the drawer and a screw would pass through the hole to thread inside it.
     
  16. BoBoDohn

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    Pretty sure that is a vintage screw-back button. Found on antique women's coats and sweaters. Might give that angle a try ;)
     
  17. Sporak

    Sporak Sr Member Gone but not forgotten.

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    Maybe it's just as it looks, a vintage cape chain.

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  18. hydin

    hydin Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    im leaning towards a cloak or cape chain myself.

    i have a buckle kinda like this at the house, and some buttons as well. more ivory instead of the other, and the connectors are a bit different. still, might be vintage.

    chris
     
  19. obee1

    obee1 New Member

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    ok guys----wake up and lets get some fresh ideas pumping out here.....
     
  20. Jedirick

    Jedirick Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Yup, sometimes things appear to be what they are.
     
  21. obee1

    obee1 New Member

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    everyone giving up???
     
  22. Polluxius

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    It could be a tux shirt stud. They where used in place of buttons on the shirt. I am looking into it further.
     
  23. obee1

    obee1 New Member

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    probably not a stud.......the back screws off.
     
  24. EchoLeader

    EchoLeader Well-Known Member

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    obee1, I've been working on a Zorro costume also and the first thing I noticed is how puny Banderas is. The man has no shoulders at all.

    So far I have a shirt, pants that need to have studs added to the sides, gloves, hat that needs embroidery detail added and a custom mask I made.

    My question is if you have any suggestions on what can be used for the embroidery work for the hat and cape?

    Any help is appreciated.

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    Here are some progress pics.

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  25. turok96

    turok96 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe a combination of two items and not just that one piece.
     
  26. turok96

    turok96 Well-Known Member

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    Any updates on this, did anyone find the source?
     

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