Replica or vintage folmer graflex 3 cell bottom? If replica then who's?
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scarf man
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Here is a great resource for your question.
www.therpf.com
Graflex Variations: Facts and vs. Replica
In my quest to build my near screen accurate Luke ANH, and Luke ESB, I've learned a lot about Graflex Flashes and the replicas over the past couple of months. I posted all of this on the fx-sabers forums, but I thought it might be useful and helpful here too. When I started I got my hands on...
www.therpf.com
3cell
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Hi Scarf Man,Here is a great resource for your question.
Graflex Variations: Facts and vs. Replica
In my quest to build my near screen accurate Luke ANH, and Luke ESB, I've learned a lot about Graflex Flashes and the replicas over the past couple of months. I posted all of this on the fx-sabers forums, but I thought it might be useful and helpful here too. When I started I got my hands on...
Thanks for the quick reply and reference info.
I went thru all 33 pages of this reference info but was unable to find info on this.
I originally Listed this on ebay to sell as vintage and had someone contact me saying he thought it may be a replica. I removed it of course until I can confirm replica or vintage. If I can't confirm vintage then I will just list it as a replica.
Thanks again for the info.
Dean
scarf man
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Yeah, I don’t see anything that jumps out as obviously replica about your pic. Do you have a top and clamp to go with the bottom? There are more tells to look for on the other parts.
If someone commented that he thought it was a replica, without giving you specifics as to why, I would chalk it up to trawling for a discount. You’ve done your due diligence reading up on the subject.
Drew Baker
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Sure, I'll out myself. Here's what I said about it on eBay:
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The 2nd through 4th photos [in the replica thread] are vintage bottoms, and they use an O with straight sides. The 5th and 6th photos are shots of the bottom of a replica known as the Parks V1, and their O has a more pointy top and curved sides, and seem to match the item you've got. Other replicas have other tells, of course, but that letter form is distinctive for the Parks V1.
It's tough to tell sometimes, which is how I ended up with one of those replicas a while back. I keep it around as a reminder to be more careful.
Thanks for your time,
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So, no, not unsubstantiated angling for a discount. I just don't want someone paying vintage Folmer money for a Parks.
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The 2nd through 4th photos [in the replica thread] are vintage bottoms, and they use an O with straight sides. The 5th and 6th photos are shots of the bottom of a replica known as the Parks V1, and their O has a more pointy top and curved sides, and seem to match the item you've got. Other replicas have other tells, of course, but that letter form is distinctive for the Parks V1.
It's tough to tell sometimes, which is how I ended up with one of those replicas a while back. I keep it around as a reminder to be more careful.
Thanks for your time,
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So, no, not unsubstantiated angling for a discount. I just don't want someone paying vintage Folmer money for a Parks.
Lots of little things are off to my eyes. But just compare the K in "york", the G in "graflex", (the one in "Made by the Folmer Graflex ...") to a vintage one. Not sure what it is, I don' think it's a real graflex, but also does not match that particular replica on the 5/6th photos.
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The pin under the red button with a square base is a good sign
Almost positive the bottom is a replica Parks V1 as others have said. Sometimes it's harder to pick up on inconsistencies from a single picture, but side by side, they're easier to detect.
Differences with the genuine
Differences with the genuine
- Overall tighter / thinner engraving of font
- Shape of letter "A" - more pronounced flat top on genuine?
- Shape of letter "O" - more squared vs round
- Shape of letter "G" - does not have the drop down spur line
- Shape of letter "K" - more pronounced curve in the drop line and starts a little higher up from the upward line
- Size of the periods in between USA are smaller
- Font size and spacing of the "Trade Mark" line - shorter and more spacing between words
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