Recasting Out of Business Props Question...

[Mechinyun]

Art summed it up pretty well on the other page with his post.

dead company = free game.

I had original molds for a pretty large and expensive piece from one of the larger dead companies a few years back, I produced a couple hundred of them and sold them all here, very publicly. Everyone was happy and not one issue. :thumbsup

 

[Art Andrews]

Art on a serious note, with replica prop companies (for example QMx's artisan line) turning towards hand built and researched products that are built by small artist and then 're-branded' and sold under the larger companies license, where do these products fit in?

Does the 'show them the door ban' apply or the 'unlikely to be banned' apply once the company is no longer producing?

Flynn, Your question seems a bit loaded because it feels like you are looking for us to take a stance on loyalty to members vs loyalty to licensees.

If i am mistaken and you are asking if the source of the product from a defunct company would play a role in what I have already stated, then my answer would again be "unlikely."

 

[exoray]

Flynn, Your question seems a bit loaded because it feels like you are looking for us to take a stance on loyalty to members vs loyalty to licensees.

If i am mistaken and you are asking if the source of the product from a defunct company would play a role in what I have already stated, then my answer would again be "unlikely."

Question wasn't loaded, just curious as the situation is one to come up...

So as I understand it, if a member of the community makes a product for a licensee and that company is no longer producing the item, the member no longer have the community protection offered to default back upon that they would have if they had offered it direct to the community vs through a 3rd party licensee...

 

[Art Andrews]

Question wasn't loaded, just curious as the situation is one to come up...

So as I understand it, if a member of the community makes a product for a licensee and that company is no longer producing the item, the member no longer have the community protection offered to default back upon that they would have if they had offered it direct to the community vs through a 3rd party licensee...

First, for the sake of clarity it is not a matter of a company no longer producing an item, but more of a company going out of business and no longer being around.

Second, I can't think of a scenario in which the history of a licensed item affected our previously stated stance once a company has gone out of business.

 

[Alan Castillo]

.....

Hmm. Heads up.

 

[Spyhunter2k]

Something in my post that seems off?

 

[C0mmand3rC0dy]

What ever happened to Markpoon's selling of the Medal of Yavin replicas, weren't those determined to be recasts of the MR ones? I did a side-by side of each and they were identical.

 

[goldenage]

the IC han in carbonite seems to be a free for all and no one mentions a word.

how is this ok and recast of an MR at-at is not?

its either black or white or its all BS


-Z

It's all BS.

 

[sskunky]

Every person is going to have their own take on this. I don't know if the OP is just interested in batting around the idea and seeing where people stand or if you are looking for a definitive answer from the staff. If your underlying question is whether or not you will be banned for recasting a piece from a company that has gone out of business or no longer holds a particular license (yes, even MR), the answer is "unlikely." Some individuals get up in arms about it, but as a community, the recasting of defunct company's pieces has long been allowed and we aren't changing that now.

With that being said, I want to be clear that anyone recasting an active licensee's pieces will not only be immediately shown the door, but we will also place a rabid Tasmanian devil in your trousers as a parting gift.


Same goes for recasting a casting of ANYTHING that another member has made without their permission.

One thread springs to mind here and that was the Batteries not included interest thread.
RACProps offered casts of his BNI droid and everyone jumped on him like a tonne of bricks saying he couldn't do it as it was recasting. Yet the company responsible was out of business 25 years ago and no longer producing them?

So was it ok to offer them or not?

 

[modeljag]

It's hit or miss. Try to sell some recasts and you might be fine. Some people might start complaining though and it will snowball until it becomes a bad idea.

There is no rule for or against recasting.

That is all.

 

[Amish Trooper]

@sskunky. I think the guy got raked over the coals. Sad was it was a vocal minority jumping on him.

 

[teecrooz]

You mean this thread.

 

[Robiwon]

weird. A thread about recasting that has tempers flaring.

And an actual apology and an acceptance of the apolgy. My head is going to explode!!!!!! :angel

I think this is one of the nicer ones I have seen in a long time with not much bickering and lots of thoughtful and in depth answers. Kudos to everyone!

 

[zorg]

One thread springs to mind here and that was the Batteries not included interest thread.
RACProps offered casts of his BNI droid and everyone jumped on him like a tonne of bricks saying he couldn't do it as it was recasting. Yet the company responsible was out of business 25 years ago and no longer producing them?

So was it ok to offer them or not?

i forgot about that one, good call.

 

[Art Andrews]

One thread springs to mind here and that was the Batteries not included interest thread.
RACProps offered casts of his BNI droid and everyone jumped on him like a tonne of bricks saying he couldn't do it as it was recasting. Yet the company responsible was out of business 25 years ago and no longer producing them?

So was it ok to offer them or not?

I don't know the full details of that situation, but based on the little that I do know, Rich decided not to do the run, due to a small but outspoken minority. If he has chosen to proceed, would the staff have stepped in? Again, based on what I know of the situation, which is admittedly limited, it is unlikely.

 

[lonepigeon]

I also am confused on this.

There was a run of a recast Don Post deluxe Vader helmet a few years ago here on the RPF and everyone was excited about it and many (including myself) bought one.

It was from a long time member,

SO how is this different then recasting recently folded companies. (This is in NO way condoning recasting MR or ICONS etc..)

Just asking

Most often the reasoning behind recasting pieces like this is that the licensed item has a lineage to the original prop. The Illusive Han Carbonite is probably the biggest example. No one would have a Han Carbonite without the recasting of the Illusive Concepts replica. Whether that's adequate justification is personal opinion. To the majority of the RPF it's enough.

 

[Laffo]

Someone pm me when this thread gets up to 10 pages. I can't be bothered with it otherwise.
Meanwhile I have a Rin Tin Tin doll I'd like to "Play Forward" and chat about. (After I recast the *******)
Laffo.