Dont get me wrong Fettclone I know Canada is a huge place and Im not in anyway saying all canadiancostumers are doing this.I actually live near the canadian border and have tons of friends up there...But some armorers and I are concerned of the blatant recasting being done by a small number of them...and like I said if the good guys up there dont want to be cut off due to one or a couple scumbag no talent hacks....then they will take care of the problem internally......at least we would hope they would.I'm sorry to hear of this. I've admired your GM helmet a few times, and it's one of the helmets that should be easy enough to scratch-build if someone wants one that badly.
I'm also sorry to hear of the shift in shipping to Canada. Are there no sanctions the 501st can take? I know there aren't a lot of Canadian members, but it should be a pretty tight community then, right? Regardless, Canada is still a big place (there are 32.5 million of us) and it kind of sucks to hear that one guy over in Quebec may have ruined a few chances for us "good guys" in the rest of the country to pick up new armor sometime. :angry
I'm not bashing, just disappointed at the fallout from the bad apple. Hopefully someone in "la belle province" can help out.
Well obviousley you didnt read the post through I said not all canada....Im not going to black list canada...just the few that are causing this problem...I guess I should have been more specific....For that I appologize.....Very mature of you, blacklist an entire country because one person from Quebec has recast some items. I'd like to know who these other prop makers you refer to are who you say plan to join you in your boycott.
You do realize, Canada is much larger geographically than the states and our population is more spread out, so we aren't all a tight group, we happen to be one large garrison (with the exception of Alberta). A lot of us keep in contact, but we only really see people in 3 hour radius on a semi-basis. I have met the Quebec guys, but only 3-4 times in 3 years. The 501st can't do anything about recasting, as much as it sucks. But how is it "the good guys" responsibility to stop recasting in order to not be blacklisted? Seems like a pretty unfair way to deflect the responsibility of stopping recasters onto people who aren't involved.
You said it yourself, it's from a small number of people. I don't think I'd be crazy to say more people from the states have recasted your or other people's work. Alienating an entire country is probably the worst way to try and stop a recaster. Skygunbro, I realize you are frusterated with the recast of your work and I would definitely be upset if I were in your shoes. But deciding not to ship to Canada is not a fair way to try and stop it. I have never ordered from you and I don't know that ever will have to, but if I were I don't want myself or others to be refused because someone who recast your helmet lives on my side of the border, nine hours away from me.
I have ordered several times from Sky, and he is the most stand up guy I know. I back ya Sky if you dont ship North.I have never ordered from you and I don't know that ever will have to, but if I were I don't want myself or others to be refused because someone who recast your helmet lives on my side of the border, nine hours away from me.
You told me in your email:
"And as a result of this and all the other peoples stuff he's copied ..myself and a few other prop makers are no longer selling or shipping anything to Canada...like the old saying one apple ruins the bunch....."
Im confused cause I never emailed anyone saying the above...I did originally post that in this thread but agree not to blackball everyone because of one or a couple people.........
And as far as the other makers I spoke with several people today that called me....whether they intend on not selling as they told me thats up to them to announce...And is no way what I said to be deemed as a threat to anyone and I understand your concern and frustation as well.....
Like I said the 501st is a not a police force and I dont expect them as a entity to do anything...but on the local/garrison level I would think that something should be said at least.......
I dont know how many more ways I can explain this......
I just basically wanted it made public this person is doing this yet again........with it seems no regard...anyway I appologize if I ruffled some feathers But back on topic this guy copied something I made and did all the research on and will probably walk away once again without anyone saying anything to him about it....
Unfortunatly it did sound pretty bad and that would be the exact same thing as saying your not going to ship to anyone in SOCA because you found out someone was recasting your stuff in that area of Cailifornia.Well obviousley you didnt read the post through I said not all canada....Im not going to black list canada...just the few that are causing this problem...I guess I should have been more specific....For that I appologize.....
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Unfortunatly it did sound pretty bad as that would be the exact same thing as saying your not going to ship to anyone SOCA because you found out someone was recasting your stuff in that area of Cailifornia.Well obviousley you didnt read the post through I said not all canada....Im not going to black list canada...just the few that are causing this problem...I guess I should have been more specific....For that I appologize.....
How many times do I need to regurgitate this.....I originally said that... and yes it doesnt make sense...thats why I reverted my postion and basically said that I wouldnt sell to him or known associates of his.....anyway Im over this ....should have never said anything cause obviously no one cares .......I'm not defending anyone, your logic is like saying that your not going to sell anything to the city or state that Chaucer44 lives in because he recast stuff, it dosn't make any sence.