"Real" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle - Update 5.2.15

Re: "Real" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle! Update 2/21/12 (pg 9)

i love how realistic this looks vs. the common cartoon look. more similar to a terrapin than a tortoise though
 
Re: "Real" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle! Update 2/21/12 (pg 9)

Amazing work! Love the detail and everything about it. Really amazing!

Now a quick question. Could you give some pointers for someone that's starting to sculpt? For example I'm working on my first sculpt (too early for it's own thread) and I find myself with a lot of lumps throughout the sculpt and continuously adding and removing clay trying to even it out. I am using Monster Makers clay, whats the easiest way to smooth and even a dome/round type helmet? Thanks.

On another note, I see you're from MA as well. :thumbsup
 
Re: "Real" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle! Update 2/21/12 (pg 9)

Amazing work! Love the detail and everything about it. Really amazing!

Now a quick question. Could you give some pointers for someone that's starting to sculpt? For example I'm working on my first sculpt (too early for it's own thread) and I find myself with a lot of lumps throughout the sculpt and continuously adding and removing clay trying to even it out. I am using Monster Makers clay, whats the easiest way to smooth and even a dome/round type helmet? Thanks.

On another note, I see you're from MA as well. :thumbsup

Yeah, man - MA represent! Always cool to see other RPF members here.

This sculpt was actually done with monster makers clay. It's a bit hard, for sure. You can find other softer oil based clays out there, which can reduce working time quite a bit. All hope is not lost, though! Try taking your sculpt out into the sun to work, or better yet take a blow dryer or heat gun to it. Heat softens (or even liquifies) this clay, so use it sparingly. Once you have everything in shape, you can soften lesser areas (and to a lesser extent) by using rubbing alcohol (get the stronger stuff) as a solvent. Sand using the webby drywall sandpaper to get everything nice and smooth.

We brought the turtle sculpt to a friend's FX shop (he's worked on the first Narnia movie, The Departed, the Fighter, Arrested Development, and lots of other great projects) to get some pointers on giving him across the finish line about a month or so ago. It was great to see some techniques displayed in person. I went to a "fine arts" school, so what I learned was primarily about form. Ben, our FX friend, went to an FX school - what he learned was primarily about finishing. He feels like he's still catching up on the form side of things after years in the industry, but he sure had a lot to teach me about getting those textures and surfaces locked down. We'll probably go back to get his help in molding this beast, to make sure I don't mess it up. Here's a picture of Ever working on the sculpt in his shop:

ev_turtle_shop.jpg



To everyone else: thanks for the kind words! And just to clarify, this sculpt is of a TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLE. Not a fighting alien looks-like-a-turtle. Oh, Hollywood...
 
Re: "Real" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle! Update 2/21/12 (pg 9)

Yeah, man - MA represent! Always cool to see other RPF members here.

This sculpt was actually done with monster makers clay. It's a bit hard, for sure. You can find other softer oil based clays out there, which can reduce working time quite a bit. All hope is not lost, though! Try taking your sculpt out into the sun to work, or better yet take a blow dryer or heat gun to it. Heat softens (or even liquifies) this clay, so use it sparingly. Once you have everything in shape, you can soften lesser areas (and to a lesser extent) by using rubbing alcohol (get the stronger stuff) as a solvent. Sand using the webby drywall sandpaper to get everything nice and smooth.

We brought the turtle sculpt to a friend's FX shop (he's worked on the first Narnia movie, The Departed, the Fighter, Arrested Development, and lots of other great projects) to get some pointers on giving him across the finish line about a month or so ago. It was great to see some techniques displayed in person. I went to a "fine arts" school, so what I learned was primarily about form. Ben, our FX friend, went to an FX school - what he learned was primarily about finishing. He feels like he's still catching up on the form side of things after years in the industry, but he sure had a lot to teach me about getting those textures and surfaces locked down. We'll probably go back to get his help in molding this beast, to make sure I don't mess it up. Here's a picture of Ever working on the sculpt in his shop:

ev_turtle_shop.jpg



To everyone else: thanks for the kind words! And just to clarify, this sculpt is of a TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLE. Not a fighting alien looks-like-a-turtle. Oh, Hollywood...

Hey Westies 14, thanks for the tips but I'm having issues and was wondering if you can direct me a bit better. I was looking for the "webby drywall sandpaper" and I can't find it. Could you send me a link of where I can purchase it or point me in the right direction? I also tried using some regular rubbing alcohol that I had at home but didn't really do anything to my sculpt. I read that you can use Mineral Spirits, is that what you were talking about?

I'm doing a Red Hood sculpt over here and I want it to have a glass smooth finish. I also read something that said to put alcohol on it then heat it up to get it to a wet point and quickly spray it with compressed air to get that finish. What do you think about that?

Sry about all the questions. I did drop you a shout-out in my thread. Come check it out and let me know what you think and any pointers you might wanna give me. Thanks again.

PS. When is your next update? Anxiously waiting!
 
Re: "Real" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle! Update 2/21/12 (pg 9)

Looking good, man!

The Monster clay is very hard stuff. You'll need to use the 99% isopropyl alcohol to eat away at it, and even that will be a very minimal effect - use that for your real "finishing" stage.

The drywall sandpaper can be bought at any hardware store in the sandpaper section! "Webby" was just a description, not a brand - it's like a web grid, rather than gritty paper. Here's a picture:

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Brushing on some of that 99% alcohol and sanding with this stuff will get that smooth finish you're looking for. Only use the heat while you're still shaping, as that can easily melt and warp areas of the clay that you didn't intend! Keep up the good work.

- D

Hey Westies 14, thanks for the tips but I'm having issues and was wondering if you can direct me a bit better. I was looking for the "webby drywall sandpaper" and I can't find it. Could you send me a link of where I can purchase it or point me in the right direction? I also tried using some regular rubbing alcohol that I had at home but didn't really do anything to my sculpt. I read that you can use Mineral Spirits, is that what you were talking about?

I'm doing a Red Hood sculpt over here and I want it to have a glass smooth finish. I also read something that said to put alcohol on it then heat it up to get it to a wet point and quickly spray it with compressed air to get that finish. What do you think about that?

Sry about all the questions. I did drop you a shout-out in my thread. Come check it out and let me know what you think and any pointers you might wanna give me. Thanks again.

PS. When is your next update? Anxiously waiting!
 
Re: "Real" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle! Update 2/21/12 (pg 9)

Thanks again! You're a wealth of information.
Off to the hardware store! :cool

How's your sculpt going?


Looking good, man!

The Monster clay is very hard stuff. You'll need to use the 99% isopropyl alcohol to eat away at it, and even that will be a very minimal effect - use that for your real "finishing" stage.

The drywall sandpaper can be bought at any hardware store in the sandpaper section! "Webby" was just a description, not a brand - it's like a web grid, rather than gritty paper. Here's a picture:

Redirect Notice

Brushing on some of that 99% alcohol and sanding with this stuff will get that smooth finish you're looking for. Only use the heat while you're still shaping, as that can easily melt and warp areas of the clay that you didn't intend! Keep up the good work.

- D
 
Re: Custom TMNT costume/mask project - "Real" Mutant Ninja Turtle

Dude that sculpture is sick! I'd totally buy one of these!! I think they should make the turtles look like this honestly, it looks more like a snapping turtle, but keep it up!
 
Re: "Real" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle! Update 2/21/12 (pg 9)

This is so unreal. If you make casts of this please let me know as I would love to get hold of one. It's simply the coolest Ninja Turtle I could imagine. What type clay are you using?
 
Thanks! This is monster clay from monstermakers.com - but next sculpt, I'll be using a softer oil-based clay for sure.
 
Re: "Real" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle! Update 2/21/12 (pg 9)

I'm in awe in the level of detail on the textures. The scales are simply amazing, I love it!! I'm excited to see the progress and will be following this thread for sure. I loved the turtles growing up, deffo one of my fave cartoon as a kid. I really like your stylized approach, always been a fan of "realistic" versions of cartoons.
 
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Re: "Real" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle! Update 2/21/12 (pg 9)

This is looking so good! I really look forward to seeing your progress with the casting stage. Good luck!
 
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