Questions About Bond Films that You Have been Afraid to Ask SPOILERS

Most of the Bond BDs are US$10 on Amzn, even TLD (which I picked up "Only at Target" for 15, dammit). BD players are getting cheap, too, with rebates at stores like Costco. I have a Panasonic BDT215, good VFM.

I don't remember her in.... Oh. I saw THE IMMORTALS with the new Superman. Boy I wish I could get back those 2 hours of my life.
 
The Immortals. Pah. Lovely visuals, but otherwise it was crap.

Holy crap...the Bond 50 boxed set is $329 right now!! Man, I'm glad I bought when I did... I love the set, but I don't love it at that price!
 
Here's a fun question:

You're stuck on a desert island, and you can bring three Bond movies with you to pass the time BUT, they must be three consecutive movies. Which three movies will you pick?

I'd hate to never see Connery, Lazenby, Moore & Craig ever again, but Dalton is my favorite actor, and GoldenEye is my favorite movie. So there's really no other choice for me other than
* The Living Daylights
* Licence to Kill
* GoldenEye
 
If they have to be consecutive,
Dr No
FRWL
GF

I'm tempted to say
CR
QOS
SF
but never seeing SC as Bond again? I just couldn't do it ;)
 
"Don't make it tougher on yourself...." Grant

Three, and have to be consecutive? :eek: Guess that leaves me no choice, DN - FRWL - GF. But really, my chrono choice collection is DN, FRWL, OHMSS, CR. I bought TLD recently and I'm warming up to it again...

Yes, I have issues with several of the Connery films.

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The Living Daylights: 1st time viewing

TD: His performance is good (not great) as Bond. He is definitely hampered by the script and playing opposite d’Abo.
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The Opening Credits and Score: It felt like a parody, maybe just too 80s for me.:thumbsdown

Story: In a word: weak. It was “almost” a good story, but it was too centered on a genuine romance. From the moment Bond shoots the rifle instead of Kara I had trouble with the writing. The “kidnapping” of Koskov made MI6 look like idiots, and the whole Afghani freedom fighters thing seems naïve at best (even in 1987). Kamran Shah (with the english accent :facepalm) showing up at the end for Kara’s concert seemed like sloppy writing (as well as not serving the Bond story). I have to say the worst aspect was Kara, not only is she a cellist, horseback rider, and can handle an automatic rifle (easily disarming Kamran Shah), she can also drive a car onto a moving plane!:confused If she were an agent I could “go along” with her doing spy stuff, but not as a classical musician. JB falling in love with her (according to MI6 commentary he does) is also way outside “normal” Bond motives, having fun with her? Yes that’s Bond:cool, falling in love? I just don’t see it; I also saw no onscreen chemistry from the actors. (I blame d’Abo :lol)
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Cast: I thought the main characters were well cast with the exception of Kara and Necros. Her character is poorly written and poorly acted, as well as being the least attractive Bond girl to date, IMO. His performance was pretty wooden, not awful but far from good. I enjoyed the rest of the cast quite a bit, even with everyone’s accent coming and going. JD Baker always plays a great smiling slimy bad guy, Jeroen Krabbe did a good job and I love JR in anything he does.
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Gadgets: I have a love-hate relationship with the Q branch:D. My childhood Bond was RM, so I have some (waning) nostalgia for the wacky gadgets of that era, and I have always enjoyed the comedic aspects of Q himself. As an adult “re-discovering” Bond, I enjoy the more realistic portrayal (too a point!;)) of espionage. The car was great (love the AM) the HUD was modern and cool, classic rockets bullet-proof glass, police scanner:thumbsup. However, hubcap lasers (though well executed), outriggers, driving a boathouse, those felt a little too “Moore-ish” to me. The key remote was a cool idea, especially since they were new on the market when the film came out (thank god it didn’t shoot a laser!:lol)
Villain gadgets: Exploding milk bottles, YES(y)cool! Whitaker’s watch remote and shield gun,:thumbsup. Rigged sliding door,:wacko
Highlights: The opening “training” exercise with the jeep escape.
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Smuggling Koskov out in the gas line, very :cool. The cello chase, it seemed silly (because it is:lol;)) but it was well executed and I do like seeing Bond use whatever he has on hand.
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Whitaker’s war room; hidden drawers, remote cannon and his snarky comment about hiding behind Wellington (before “meeting his Waterloo”), all were classic Bond villain traits. The plane fight was awesome, especially the exterior shots.
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It may seem like I’m pretty harsh on this film, but I enjoyed it enough to watch it 3 times in 48 hours (once w/commentary), it is Bond after all. I can see they were trying to get away from the silliness of the later Moore films, and they almost made it all the way to a serious Bond movie. It’s also very much a product of 80s action film style so I cut it some slack there. This was the year of Lethal Weapon and Robo Cop! If I had stuck to the plan of watching the Bonds in order; I probably would have appreciated it more coming out of the RM films. I’m still very anxious to see LTK next week!:popcorn

On the Bond scale I give it 6.4 out of 10 (based only on other Bond films)
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I like your point of view. Thanks for sharing.
First view? Where have you been?

Yes it is not the best one, but it is a leap from RM's Bond into something darker. I guess most of the audience was not too ready for it yet.
I tried to watch it again, but my player won't recognized the disc anymore :cry.
So does my LTK.

My best memorable scene is when TD pulled his PPK in the park, and it turned out he was following the wrong ballon, and holstered back.
I think that was the first time I truly understand "concealed".
The music score is also great. I like the score when the bad guy stormed the MI6 safe house as a milkman.
IIRC, he used headphone cord as strangler.
The opening makes me fall in love with paintball later on (much later).
All the romance seems to be forced, even the first boat scene.
Love the car, but sad that Volante didn't bring the popularity back (compare to DB7).

Regarding d'Abo, her play in this movie wanted me to see, ..err, search the internet for more......and got disappointed.
 
:cry

It's really too bad you see it like that! TD is easily the closest Bond to the novels. Even more so than Craig or Lazenby I think. Reading the books made me appreciate him that much more.

And the pre-credits? Come on man, it was awesome. Compare that to anything Moore did! This was Barry's last Bond score and I think it's great. Still gets a lot of listen time on my MP3 player. ;)

I'll agree with one thing though, the concert at the end was so contrived and silly it had me shaking my head. That's how a Moore film ends, not a Dalton one! Hopefully you like LTK better. :)
 
I think coming of the DC films, I was moore (see what I did there ;)) critical of it than if I had gone from RM to TD. I did like it as a movie, (3 views in 2 days is extremley rare for me) and I like TD as Bond, he certainly is better at the physical work than RM. I just couldn't believe he would fall for her. The romantic scenes seemed forced to me. I like the ruthless agent, and I didn't get much sense of that guy from the script. On the music, I could have done without the drum machine (as a drummer I hate em, :lol), just stick to classic brass and strings (again 80's). I should mention I really like the diamond smuggling in the transplant ice, could have gone without the Poe effect on the heart though. I read that TLD is based on a Fleming short story, how close is the film to his book? I'm picking up CR (novel) from the library this week, it will be the 1st Bond I've read. While the RPF was off-line, I read a 525 page book, so if I like CR I'll be rolling through the books faster than my librarian can order them in for me. :lol

General Bond question: When did he quit smoking? I know smoking is a big no-no in movie's now(do they get an R rating for smoking?), in the older films JB's bad habit saves his life more than once. I noticed him smoking at the very begining of TLD, is that the last time we see him puffing?
 
General Bond question: When did he quit smoking? I know smoking is a big no-no in movie's now(do they get an R rating for smoking?), in the older films JB's bad habit saves his life more than once. I noticed him smoking at the very begining of TLD, is that the last time we see him puffing?

TD is the last Bond to smoke cigarettes and he does in LTK IIRC however PB did have the occasional cigar.
 
I think coming of the DC films, I was moore (see what I did there ;)) critical of it than if I had gone from RM to TD. I did like it as a movie, (3 views in 2 days is extremley rare for me) and I like TD as Bond, he certainly is better at the physical work than RM. I just couldn't believe he would fall for her. The romantic scenes seemed forced to me. I like the ruthless agent, and I didn't get much sense of that guy from the script.

Fair enough. Going from DC to TD is definitely a change and I agree that D'Abo is a weak member of the cast. However I didn't see it so much as him falling for her as him using her. It was primarily a game to get her to trust him and get him to his target. I like that the people around him are objects to be used. Great example is when he strips the girl to distract the guard.

On the music, I could have done without the drum machine (as a drummer I hate em, :lol), just stick to classic brass and strings (again 80's).

:lol I guess I just love it for what it is. I first saw it when that was all the rage. ;)

I read that TLD is based on a Fleming short story, how close is the film to his book? I'm picking up CR (novel) from the library this week, it will be the 1st Bond I've read. While the RPF was off-line, I read a 525 page book, so if I like CR I'll be rolling through the books faster than my librarian can order them in for me. :lol

The scene when Bond is first supposed to protect the defector is pretty much the whole short story. Everything else is new. As for the books I hope you enjoy them! CR is certainly not the best but it does really help to read them in order. Even if you're not thrilled with CR give LALD and MR a chance. Great novels and a lot more "spying" than is generally in the films. If you like FRWL and OHMSS that's more the pace of the books.
 
Fair enough. Going from DC to TD is definitely a change and I agree that D'Abo is a weak member of the cast. However I didn't see it so much as him falling for her as him using her. It was primarily a game to get her to trust him and get him to his target. I like that the people around him are objects to be used. Great example is when he strips the girl to distract the guard.



:lol I guess I just love it for what it is. I first saw it when that was all the rage. ;)



The scene when Bond is first supposed to protect the defector is pretty much the whole short story. Everything else is new. As for the books I hope you enjoy them! CR is certainly not the best but it does really help to read them in order. Even if you're not thrilled with CR give LALD and MR a chance. Great novels and a lot more "spying" than is generally in the films. If you like FRWL and OHMSS that's more the pace of the books.

:thumbsup on the books!
I should have included the topless distraction in my highlights as that was very much Bond! (my wife and daughter both gasped at the tearing-off part! :lol) The MI6 commentary mentioned that because of the AIDS problem they wanted to make JB less promiscuous. Seems like an attempt to make Bond more PC for the time (much like axing the cigarettes). I'm hoping LTK goes a little darker than TLD.
 
Oh boy, :D :D :D are you trying to get me to drive 10 miles to the video store today ;) (rubbing my hands together like a villain :D)

:lol

Please do! It's a vengeful film with a rogue Bond. I think you'll like it although it's certainly not without it's flaws.
 
Why doesn't he have concerns about STDs?
In reality I can't imagine that lifestyle not catching up with him.
Could even impact his mission performance, making it more then just a personal indulgence.
 
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