Prop money.....any issues?

Slider

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This may be a question for the prop builders in the film industry.....I don't really know.

Anyway... the question is, are there any legalities that anyone knows of regarding prop money.
I made a replica of the Soviet one dollar bill in the pilot ep. of Sliders, the one on the show looks like it was actually a real one bill, scanned in and altered. It even said "this note is legal tender..."

I realize most prop money is very different for screen use, but could you get nailed for anything by scanning in a real bill and changing the color and the Pres.?
 
As soon as you scan in " The Bill " they can get you for counterfiting if they find out, I would be carefull if I were you. The Gov don't like folks even playing with the idea of funny money for any reason.
Just my $0.2 worth...
 
From what I know, yes, it is illegal to reproduce any currency in an unaltered form. Regardless of the purpose (ie. for use as a prop in a self-made film), if someone comes across it and reports it, you could be in a whole heap of trouble.

Now, the major film studios do produce "prop money" that almost looks indistinguishable from the real McCoy, however they have special permissions from the appropriate government department(s) to do such. An independent prop/film-maker would not have that luxury.

It's been my experience that most prop money made and sold through independent means (ie. eBay; I have seen some sellers offer just that sort of thing there), although looking very close to the real thing, take measures to have some slight alterations made.

For example, where it would normally say "United States of America" they instead insert "For Motion Picture Use Only". Other text areas altered include "Reserve Note" to "Cinema Reserve Prop Note", and "Legal Tender" to "Not Legal Tender".

In most cases, when prop money is used on-screen the shot/angle of it is far enough off that the viewing audience can't even see these alterations, and by making these changes to the currency used in filming, it saves the maker of said prop a lot of legal backlash.

Not only that, but it helps to deter anyone who may buy these items from trying to pawn it off as real currency, and therefore decreases the frequency of counterfeiting. There's already enough of that going on as it is.

Oh, one other thing... another legal issue is printing double-sided bills. That too is considered illegal, as the authorities see it as a form of counterfeiting (even though your intentions may be nothing but honest), and so frown upon that as well.

Therefore, it's best to print the front and back of each bill separately. For example, in a prop stack of $100 bills, have a printed front on top and a printed back on the bottom, with cut-to-size blanks as filler in between. At a quick glance, one can't tell it's not a stack full of $100 bills. That's the whole idea anyway, isn't it? To give the "illusion" of it being a hefty stack of high-denomination currency, heh.

I have a few pics from an eBay auction I won for just this sort of thing. I'll try to dig them up on my hard drive and post them here to give you a better idea what I'm talking about.

Of course, in your case, as you're planning on making some significant alterations to the currency you'll be making -- changing the colour scheme, different face of the President -- there may be enough changes made to it that there won't be any issues after all. However, I think it's best you know the best practices for this type of prop, just so you can save yourself some unnecessary headaches (and possibly jail time).

Anyway, I hope this helps... B)
 
That does help. Thanks.

I mean...really, who would think that a red one dollar bill with Nikita Khrushchev on the front would be real??

I just didn't know if there was a reason why the studios would put "studio use only" on there unless there was some type of law that says they have to.
 
If you aren't careful, you might get a visit from the secret service.

They really, really, really frown on anyone making actual money.

As far as it not looking "real", remember a year or so ago when the monopoly money came out with the rainbow colors and whatnot? I still get asked questions and they run that little pen across it every single time.

I would only really worry if you offered up replicas though. If it's a one shot bill, who cares? (unless, of course, your one shot comes off epic games :lol)

I have some money from the punisher, and robocop (the big bill stacks), and while it looks pretty cool, its also saran wrapped up from production and it's staying that way :)

Chris
 
are you planning on selling the sliders money or is it just for your collection?...if it's only ever going to go on your shelf then i doubt the secret service would ever have a reason to come after you as they'd never have any idea that you scanned a real dollar in the first place...skott
 
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but could you get nailed for anything by scanning in a real bill and changing the color and the Pres.?
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Yes and you could get in a lot of trouble.

I have a friend who is a United States Secret Service Senior Special Agent-Retired and I can tell you that they take ANY copying of U.S. Currency very, VERY Seriously.
 
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That does help. Thanks.

I mean...really, who would think that a red one dollar bill with Nikita Khrushchev on the front would be real??

I just didn't know if there was a reason why the studios would put "studio use only" on there unless there was some type of law that says they have to.
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Which brings up a good point; I'm not familiar enough with Sliders, much less the specific episode to know exactly what the Ruble-in-question looks like, but would a now-defunct foreign government with out-of-print currency fall under the same "counterfeiting laws?"
 
I own a stack of Screen used money bills from Punisher 2004. They all have a very tiny text in the middle of the bills that says this, (Very tiny, can only be seen very upclose)

"THIS NOTE IS NOT VALID. IT IS FOR USE IN MOTION PICTURES ONLY AND IS NON NEGOTIABLE. ITS USE FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE WILL BE IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW."
 
I want it for my own collection. But, I did consider giving one out with any Timers I sell.

I think my first fear would be more of a Federal copyright issue as I seriously doubt anyone could mistake it for a real bill. It doesn't have valid serial numbers on it either. But, the graphics around the boarder are from a real one, and the back says, "In The State We Trust".

I think right now, until I find out more about the legalities.....I'll just hold onto the one I have. Thanks for the info guys....much appreciated. I would like to see the most "real looking" movie money if anyone has it.
 
I have a friend that has a Monopoly game with scanned money.
He has money from a $1 to a $500. It is pretty cool.

But you do need to be careful, the Gov doesn't play around.

Kenny
 
Slider,

You can buy a few of my Screen used Punisher bills if you want.
Just pm me, and let me know how many you want, Its 100,50 and 20 dollar bills.
I can take some pics for you.
 
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