aliensarchive
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Theatricality and dictionary quotes are powerful agents...
Profiles in History's "The Dreier Collection" auction hammers $2.4 million
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MoviePropCollector
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Art, please tell me you didn't just make such an untrue, irresponsible accusation without first contacting me via therpf's messaging system or email.
I didn't "run", walk, call, email, or contact, Fong or anyone else from PIH on the matter in this thread.
From what I can gather, various reader comments to Fong were made by the same person who linked to the thread here. I had nothing to do with it, and frankly you owe me an appology for publicly suggesting otherwise.
Unbelievable...
So, if I ask Fong, he is going to tell me that "various reader comments" is what prompted his blog post.
Rik1138
Sr Member
I've never watched their TV show, but I've gone to several of their auctions live... I don't see them ever using footage from the real auctions on a TV show (at least, not much of it)... There's just nothing to keep your interest unless you are participating. It's just an auction. There's no excitement, no jumping up and down, the consignors aren't there to be shocked at the value of something... Hell, they don't even display the items being sold during the auction, you have to flip through the printed catalog for pictures (they may have a TV screen showing the same pictures). And, there's probably legal issues with filming the real bidding audience and airing that on TV. I don't think they'd want to make you agree to that when you enter the auction floor (as it would turn of some people I'm sure), so I'm sure they re-enact it for the show... Just a guess though.
Granted, I haven't been to one since the show started, so maybe they have been trying to spice it up, but I doubt it... It's an auction. You've seen auctions in movies selling priceless art and what-not? Just like that without the expensive suits. A room full of chairs, a bank of telephones along one wall, and an auctioneer doing his thing. If they were selling anything but props, you'd be bored out of your skull... :cool (And I'm not saying anything bad about PIH at all, this is how a professional auction is run. And whether you like them or not, they are professionals when it comes to running an auction.)
If the TV show is showing all kinds of 'Your next on the Price is Right!' [Inserts screams and tears here] type of excitement, it's all staged.
MoviePropCollector
Sr Member
It's very simple Art.
You need to read all of the exchanges between Fong and those who commented on Fong's site.
Everything I said above is 100% accurate and verifiable.
I started this thread to post information on the Dreier Auction totals. Others chose to steer the direction of this thread. I didn't.
It may further assist you to read the comments made here. To make it easy I have included those comments in this response as well. If you scroll down within the article I am referencing, will see the first comment made by the owner of that blog. His comment links to this thread on the rpf. I had nothing to do with it.
You are really embarrassing yourself Art and still owe me an apology.
Ok thanks
On the show they have what looks like a small movie theater set up with a few rows of stadium seating with the Star Joe at the top row with his crew / actors on the show thats where the phone bids are taken . He plays the part well which is not much of a stretch I guess if he is playing himself :lol
Below sits the sellers and the bidders for the auction . At the front is the auctioneer standing next to the big slide that shows each item up for bid.
Like i said not sure if the show got axed but it was really fun to watch hope it comes back on .
Yes, and the Aliens dropship for $225,000, an Alien flamethrower for $70,000, a hypersleep pod from the Sulaco in Aliens for $65,000, and the Alien3 "test" puppet (not screen-used) went for $100,000.
rkpetersen
Sr Member
Virtually everything on Hollywood Treasures is scripted and staged. Seeing that something has 'sold' on the show means nothing in the real world.
Based on what I have seen on the show many times the phones are fake...
best one being when the duffus in the toupe goes out to call his buddy to ell him they won their costumes from LOST, why go out when a phone is right there......
I'll let that go based on needing the number from his cell
ok
but there are several other times that the minute the bidding is over they all hang up the phones immediately without saying anything into them, which means there is no one there and they are for show
what I find most funny about the second season is that they are trying to portray themselves as less harsh and only out for their 30% by doing a few kind acts but in all its obvious all they do is flip things and throw out the line that they hope one day these pieces may end up on public display
if they really had that hope then they would have a museum to have items in a month or two at a time as part of the consignment but they dont, Im sure that is due in part to some legal issues with charging admission to see things that being to anul retentive studios like WB but it would be the perfect way to justify their company, would get pieces out to the public eye and it would make buyer viewing a cinch
I've been to PIH many times over the years, always liked brian and a few of the others, only met Joe for a minute
so, I'll hope along with the rest that more pieces turn up so we get to at least see them on the show and possibly a chance to preview them in LA or Augora~
did you happen to see how Profiles offered to buy the props from people out right instead
of going for the auction? that was interesting .
a few people should have gone for the auction especially the guy joe bought the riddler stunt cane from, he got killed on that. The guy had no clue what that thing was worth or was that all staged ? oh well they had me fooled sort of lol.
Does anyone happen to know if its coming back it was a very short season ?
of going for the auction? that was interesting .
a few people should have gone for the auction especially the guy joe bought the riddler stunt cane from, he got killed on that. The guy had no clue what that thing was worth or was that all staged ? oh well they had me fooled sort of lol.
Does anyone happen to know if its coming back it was a very short season ?
Rik1138
Sr Member
Do these phones on the TV show 'ring'? That's not really how PIH does phone bids... Sure, I suppose you can call in all of a sudden if you decide you have to have something (but they'd have to know who you are, they won't just take bids from anyone that calls their number...), but 99% of their 'phone bidding' are pre-arranged bidders that want to bid on a specific item over the phone. They give PIH their phone number, and PIH _calls them_ a few lots before the one they want and handle the bidding at the appropriate time. Joe himself frequently handles the phone bids for the really big ticket items (or maybe it's certain clients he deals with, not sure, but he's always on the phone taking bids during the auctions...) It's not like a call center 'with lines open and operators standing by'... :rolleyes
I'm pretty sure everything you see on the TV show is a glorified stereotype of what people want an auction to look like... I almost want to watch one episode now just to see what everyone is talking about... :cool
I'm pretty sure everything you see on the TV show is a glorified stereotype of what people want an auction to look like... I almost want to watch one episode now just to see what everyone is talking about... :cool
The Prop Stop
Sr Member
I guess the Darth Vader that couldnt sell as a full costume finally sold as just a head and just unit....for 90k.
If I had the same collection I had back in the 1990's Id be living in Beverly hills right now...lol.
If I had the same collection I had back in the 1990's Id be living in Beverly hills right now...lol.
Normal auctions have the phone help calling the buyers, not the buyer calling in because it would be based on calling the buyer when that particular item comes up
I'd believe heavily that your seeing a recreation of the auction for the show... it would explain why the same people are in ever episode buying... its rarely someone new....
I'd believe heavily that your seeing a recreation of the auction for the show... it would explain why the same people are in ever episode buying... its rarely someone new....
Clutch
Master Member
There's some app. that let's you watch the bidding as it happens in your browser. Don't know the addr. off the top of my head though.
Wow, that Al Williamson / Zanart lithograph of X-Wing pilot Luke (Lot# 181, catalog page 144) went for $1600 when was expected for $300-500?!
The three pieces originally offered in that series included X-Wing Luke, Darth Vader, and Stormtroopers. There's one of the Vaders listed on eBay right now for $400 Buy-It-Now + shipping.
The three pieces originally offered in that series included X-Wing Luke, Darth Vader, and Stormtroopers. There's one of the Vaders listed on eBay right now for $400 Buy-It-Now + shipping.
I don't feel that asking a question, based on your actions both public and private is "embarrassing myself." It was simply a question. You have been the unwavering flag-bearer for Profiles for a number of years; you posted up a thread, people asked questions, you responded, then Fong makes a clear rebuttal on his blog with you responding to his blog post almost instantaneously. I believe most people can see where it might appear that you prompted Fong's blog post.
With that being said, I did chat with Fong this morning and he said that was NOT the case and it was not you that prompted his blog post. If you feel that the incorrect conclusion I made needs an apology, then consider this my apology.
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